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RE: 2006 Bigfoot 25C9.4LB Camper Wet Weight Label - Even Close?
You have to pay to get the RVIA standards, but I believe the RVIA specifies how weight information is provided. The labeling seems very similar from one manufacturer to another.
It seems there is no requirement to actually weigh the unit as built. Car and truck manufacturers don't do that either. Instead labels include the weight of a "standard" unit. Often the wet weight is also listed based on a full fresh water tank and full propane tanks, along with the standard batteries. Labels also include specs for the options included, but not the actual total.
Correct! The stickers all look alike because manufacturers are merely adhering to federal law requiring them, even down to the size, color, location and information required on each, etc. Anything beyond that becomes grey in factual truth.
For some 'light reading' SEARCH through the 'Federal Register' for RV rules on 'placards', weights, etc. It will drive you nuts trying to find a LOGICAL answer that RVers are seeking. There is none.
While the link below is about 'cargo weight' it's just an example of what you will find that will make your head spin.
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2007/12/04/E7-22962/federal-motor-vehicle-safety-standards-cargo-carrying-capacity
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Atchafalaya_man
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07/30/22 11:07am |
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RE: 2006 Bigfoot 25C9.4LB Camper Wet Weight Label - Even Close?
This is a great review of the 2019 year model version of the 25C9.4SB. Bigfoot does put some brains into most every aspect of their designs.
https://www.truckcampermagazine.com/camper-reviews/2019-bigfoot-25c9-4sb-review/
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Atchafalaya_man
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07/27/22 05:02pm |
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RE: 2006 Bigfoot 25C9.4LB Camper Wet Weight Label - Even Close?
I admit I carry what I want now with my larger truck and don't worry about weight but rather bulk. But I have a floor to ceiling pantry, 40 cu ft basement and 65 gallons of water in my truck camper before I even start filling the encled boxes on the flat bed.
Peter, that 5500 Ram you had at the 2016 Midwest TC & Friends Rally in Minnesota didn't even know it had your camper on it, nor that trailer loaded with your sand wagon, et al.
In the link below is a report on the rally and a picture of you next to the sand wagon.
https://midwesttruckcampers.wordpress.com/past-years-events/2016-events/2016-mwtc-rally/
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Atchafalaya_man
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07/26/22 04:37pm |
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RE: 2006 Bigfoot 25C9.4LB Camper Wet Weight Label - Even Close?
The 'brochure weight' was 2900 pounds. A sticker inside a cabinet door reads:
"Camper weight is 3324 Maximum when it contains standard equipment, 46 gallons of water, 56 pounds bottled gas, 6 cubic feet refrigerator. Consult Owners Manual (or data sheet as applicable) for weights of additional or optional equipment."
Other stickers reads in part:
"Camper weight is ....3707 pounds with factory installed optional equipment in excess of 20 pounds. This weight does not include equipment under 20 pounds...... Consult data sheet....bla bla."
Dealer installed two batteries (110 pounds) plus who knows what for a possible admitted to, 3957 pounds.
We added solar panels, carpet, folding steps, shelving mods, etc. and only then did we load bottled water, pots/pans, clothes and food, etc.
Our current Lance 1181 claims to be about 3600 pounds 'dry' yet we find the same stickers in the cabinet admitting to 4690 pounds before we we add our things to reach the 5200 at which it scales.
Different brands may do it differently so weigh up, fess up. :)
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Atchafalaya_man
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07/26/22 09:19am |
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RE: 2006 Bigfoot 25C9.4LB Camper Wet Weight Label - Even Close?
When we departed on a big trip packed with food, clothes, tools, water, etc., we made a stop at the Cat Scale only 3 miles from home.
Our '2900 pound brochure weight' Lance 1130 non-slide rung up 4760 pounds on the ticket, close to 1800 pounds over the phony brochure weight.
If you know you have enough truck, avoid Cat Scale shock by never weighing your rig!
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Atchafalaya_man
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07/25/22 04:41pm |
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RE: 2006 Bigfoot 25C9.4LB Camper Wet Weight Label - Even Close?
I'm betting it will scale at 3654 pounds. (Most of us that have been this route just add a thousand pounds to what they say it weighs.)
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Atchafalaya_man
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07/24/22 08:43pm |
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RE: Shower Pan Reinforcement
I have the same camper and the same problem. I was afraid of the run-away foam as well, and thought of putting A LITTLE of it into a zip-lock bag and shove the bag into place under the shower. After that expands, I'd slip another little bag in there, and so on.
From where would you access the underside of the tub? There's a thin panel in front of the toilet but I don't know how to remove it.
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Atchafalaya_man
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07/17/22 08:37pm |
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RE: Southeast TC Gathering - FALL 2022 ???
Regarding campsite availability, I have been curiously checking COE/State reservations for summer/fall, just on a random basis. Fuel prices seem to have really eased up crowding and there are openings where they are normally booked solid. As said, any park near a big city still appears booked up on weekends.
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Atchafalaya_man
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06/17/22 07:50pm |
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RE: Southeast TC Gathering - FALL 2022 ???
Phyllis, searching for the old discussions of that event that got cancelled, I could find nothing because the Forums only allow a search of the last 12 months. Thus, I was unable to find the area of that campground you were considering. Wasn't it somewhere around Nashville?
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Atchafalaya_man
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06/09/22 08:58pm |
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RE: Southeast TC Gathering - FALL 2022 ???
Phyllis, we were at your 2018 event in Pigeon Forge and had a great time. Glad to see you might be putting something else together.
Doug and Jo Ann
Louisiana
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Atchafalaya_man
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06/08/22 11:16pm |
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RE: A Little Help With Weights
Add 1000 to 1500 pounds to any published or sticker weight you can find and you'll be in the ballpark of what a scale will tell you it weighs.
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Atchafalaya_man
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06/08/22 11:00pm |
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RE: Lance Model Difference
Don't for a moment believe the 'dry weight' figures you will find in brochures. Those figures are without appliances, etc.
When loaded to travel, the 1191 will weigh somewhat over 5000 pounds. The 1161 will be somewhat under that by a few hundred pounds.
The last year for the 1161 was 2005 and it is wood framed and has no basement, so the black/grey tanks reside under the overhang out back of the truck and the floor is about 10 inches lower (fewer steps to climb to get in).
The 1191 is an aluminum framed, basement model, with tanks under the whole floor of the camper. The outside roof height is also 10 inches higher than the 1161's so clearance under trees, etc., is less.
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Atchafalaya_man
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06/08/22 10:51pm |
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