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RE: Trying different method of fresh water tank sanitization

We typically are out twice a month with the camper and draw from the tank to keep the water fresh. We may fill from city chlorinated water or from well, but I avoid filling any water that is heavy in mineral or smell. We have not gone more than three weeks without use, so I have not treated or cleaned the fresh tank. I flush the hot water tank one or twice a year and have not seen enough build up worry about cleaning it. You can pump a vinegar dilution into your hot water tank by using the winterizing siphon and not running the tank bypass if you don't want to pickle your fresh tank. "Pickling" the fresh tank was one of the objectives. Certainly a lot of detractors to this method but it is an experiment and I'm the one who chose to try it. Seemingly, the process worked. No smell or taste in the water now. Had hotter than my hands could stand water flowing through the entire system at 130? for 30 to 40 minutes plus ambient time afterward for as long as the water held temperature. I figure the water was scalding hot for perhaps an hour total combined with the acidity of the vinegar water solution. The heat itself in the system is a big plus for any attempt at cleaning. I rather doubt there is any significant bacteria left in the system, no more than there ever is. I've been drinking the water from the TC for a couple days now and no ill effects. I may take the TC down to the waterfront tomorrow to hang out, do some work, and bake a couple loaves of bread using the water from the fresh tank. Next time, I may try this Purogene Water Treatment Preserver. Hope all's well with you guys...
Camper_Jeff_&_Kelli 05/18/21 02:13am Truck Campers
RE: RV Fresh Water System Sanitized Using Vinegar & Water Heater

That's where the heat comes in. Even if the water temp doesn't make it to the 130 degree mark, The hot water and vinegar will still create a good cleaning action rinsing out the system removing some crud from inside surfaces and rinsing stuff out the drain pipe. I looked at your other thread where you describe the process. Are you actually able to bring the overall temperature up to a decent amount by recycling it? I have never done this, but with a small HWT with limited heating capacity, I would be inclined to think there would be too much temperature loss in the fresh tank and the lines to be able to bring the whole thing past lukewarm. Just wondering.... It took a couple hours but the TC water heater did get the water hot enough that you didn't want to hold your hands in it. The water heater did shut off when it reached temperature. I kept the pump running until the water heater cycled again and I considered it mission accomplished. I think the fresh tank doesn't lose as much heat as people may think. It's a big volume with a small surface area. The bottom and front side have 1/2 inch Styrofoam insulating. That is nearly half the fresh tank surface area is insulated. So the main heat loss is from the fill hose and the other half of the fresh tank. It's kind of like an elephant versus a rabbit for heat retention. Take care...
Camper_Jeff_&_Kelli 05/17/21 12:55pm Truck Campers
RE: RV Fresh Water System Sanitized Using Vinegar & Water Heater

While vinegar does kill some bacteria, it does not come close to what bleach does. That's where the heat comes in. Even if the water temp doesn't make it to the 130 degree mark, The hot water and vinegar will still create a good cleaning action rinsing out the system removing some crud from inside surfaces and rinsing stuff out the drain pipe.
Camper_Jeff_&_Kelli 05/17/21 10:45am Truck Campers
RE: RV Fresh Water System Sanitized Using Vinegar & Water Heater

I opened your youtube link and it takes me to an ad for a local grocery store..... No thank you. When I see an ad it gets closed immediately. I like the concept and idea of what you are posting here. Good work!:) I don't like putting bleach in my fresh water. The smell lingers even after flushing the system. I use vinegar to clean my Keurig coffee machine. Works good. No reason why not to use it in our RV water systems. Thanks for posting this. I don't care for the several tanks lingering of bleach either. Simple rules for watching videos, click to SKIP ADS and fast forward through boring parts. Just click to skip the ads. Fast forward in the boring spots.
Camper_Jeff_&_Kelli 05/17/21 09:23am Truck Campers
RE: Trying different method of fresh water tank sanitization

I left chlorinated city water in my fresh tank for 3 weeks, and it was a swamp in there when I went to use it the next time. It was a late night flushing it out with bleach to get the funk and algae out of the tank. There have been a few times my TC sat for over a month, this being one of them. Usually I fill the tank full of city water when I get home from a trip. This time was different. I was going to make a quick turnabout and head out again but my fridge cooling unit died and I was stuck. The last tank of fresh water was from a clean mountain glacial spring. I did not fill the tank as per usual M/O. This time I did smell the slightest bit of funkiness. Well I was reading recently about cleaning water tanks and I came across this Vinegar and Hot Water Heater Method and thought Hmmm, I'll give it a try. The water smells clean and tastes fresh now. I'm happy with the results. Take care...
Camper_Jeff_&_Kelli 05/17/21 09:19am Truck Campers
RV Fresh Water System Sanitized Using Vinegar & Water Heater

https://external-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQGdJ5XGfZqwARn_&w=500&h=261&url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2FZglm6RQkYNk%2Fmaxresdefault.jpg&cfs=1&ext=jpg&ccb=3-5&_nc_hash=AQHzW8A_lt0r466R I'm starting a new thread on this topic. The previous thread was the suggestion of doing this. This thread is having done the vinegar and water heater cleaning sanitizing method. Previous Thread: https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/186454817_10221239648000939_1010711022258074080_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=dbeb18&_nc_aid=0&_nc_ohc=Oq18HwxnoBEAX8xXYZU&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=74f18251d84ad5998cc51a666a64cb58&oe=60C6A213 I tried a new method to clean and sanitize my Truck Camper Fresh Water System. This is a safe method, no bleach. Bleach as you know is a powerful time proven method of cleaning and sanitizing. If you don't want nasty chemicals in your water system this is a good alternative. It's a little more expensive, time consuming, and requires some mechanical know how, but the result is very good. No nasty chemicals in your drinking water from bleaching. Also, Vinegar is food! It doesn't want to kill you. TC - RV People, Enjoy...
Camper_Jeff_&_Kelli 05/17/21 09:03am Truck Campers
RE: Trying different method of fresh water tank sanitization

Will it hurt the pump to run 130 degree water through it? I think it is designed for cold / room temperature water. The pump is working fine. 120 to 130 isn't that hot. I felt the pump and the motor itself never felt hot or even warm. I did rest it a couple times a couple minutes. I've had it since 2007 .
Camper_Jeff_&_Kelli 05/16/21 06:34am Truck Campers
RE: Trying different method of fresh water tank sanitization

I figured it would take about 2 hours of continuous water heater operation and recirculation to reach the required temperature of 130 degrees F. 15 minutes per 6 gallons, 35+6=41.I don't have a thermometer to measure that but I figure I'll run the system till the water heater reaches temperature and shuts off. That should be about 2 hours to hit that tempAt the 2 hour point it is Hot to touch. I have a total of 2.5 gallons of vinegar in the system. I kept the recirculation going about 15 m8 ures after the water heater shut off. It did not restart. I rocked the TC side to side pretty good, loud sloshing sounds, then drained the system completely. I refilled and there is no order of vinegar but there is the slightest vinegar tartness taste in the water. I'm going to leave it sit overnight then drain and refill in the Azm. I expect it to be fine after that. It seems to have worked well especially due to the hot water recirculation. I'd call it a success. A bit more expensive than bleaching and time consuming but if you don't want nasty chemicals in your system, vinegar and hot recirculation is a great alternative.
Camper_Jeff_&_Kelli 05/15/21 11:25pm Truck Campers
RE: Trying different method of fresh water tank sanitization

First, vinegar does kill salmonella, E coli and some other bacteria but overall it is not a great disinfectant and certainly no where near as effective as chlorine bleach. Why not just use bleach since it is much more effective. Hot water tanks can develop quite a bit of scale. Pumping some vinegar into the tank and letting it soak should help, but I would certainly not pump that residue into my fresh water tank or even through the hot water pipes and faucets. Pull the plug and let it drain out of the tank instead. I have never had an issue removing the bleach from the water system. I drain the tank, add a partial tank of fresh water, drain again, and then fill up. There are plenty of campers who do not sanitize their fresh water tanks. Most of them do not drink water from the tank. Even so I recommend reconsidering. Sanitizing helps to remove the pink slime (pseudomonas bacteria) that grows in water tanks. It is relatively harmless for most people but can start to clog faucets. I am also concerned about Legionela. I had a friend who was very sick from Legionnaires and that bacteria is often found in RV hot water systems and the shower head. It takes little cost, time or effort to sanitize so I cannot understand why anyone would skip this. When I've used bleach in the past, the bleach needed several rinsings to get the bleach smell out which is fine. The vinegar may require the same. The vinegar is hands down safer. This is a test don't forget. I plan to put a filter between the faucet and the water fill port. The water system is supposed to be brought up to 130 degrees which is supposed to be the main killing component of this method. The hot water will flow through both hot and cold pipes since it flows out the faucet.
Camper_Jeff_&_Kelli 05/15/21 02:16pm Truck Campers
RE: Trying different method of fresh water tank sanitization

Just for the record, the recommended sanitary standard for sanitizing the RV fresh water system is 1/4 cup bleach for every 15 gallons of water. Looks like your formula is a bit deficient in bleach..... The solution was purposely made weak. It took a couple rinsings to get the bleach smell out. The camper has gone unused for a few months due to maintenance on the TC fridge cooling unit and other projects. Normally the TC is in use more and there is new fresh water every week or two and agitation from driving location to location. We do drink from the fresh tank and have never had an issue with the water. Starting the process shortly.
Camper_Jeff_&_Kelli 05/15/21 01:27pm Truck Campers
Trying different method of fresh water tank sanitization

Completion Video Thread: Today, I'm going to try the hot white vinegar solution method for cleaning the water system. I usually do 1/4 cup bleach in 35 gallons and leave it sit a couple hours, then flush it out. The vinegar method requires a couple gallons white vinegar to 35 gallons water. You then turn on your water heater and with a hose adapter if necessary, connect a hose from your kitchen sink fawcet out the door and into your water tank fill. You then turn on your hot and cold water and keep recirculating the water until the water temperature is 130 degrees F. This method is considered safe and effective. It is also supposed to help clean calcifications in the system. Not a big deal in the PNW but in other parts of the country. It's also recommended to swap out your water heater anode afterward. I will let y'all know how things work after I finish. J&K
Camper_Jeff_&_Kelli 05/15/21 10:14am Truck Campers
RE: Space heater recommendations?

This is what we use. A three foot 1000 watt portable baseboard. It fits in the dinette under the table keeping us warm there or widthwise at the step up to the bed. the heat there tends to flow into the cabover bed area. Best thing about it is it's silent. I don't care for fan heaters when sleeping. King 3' 1000 watt baseboard portable heater
Camper_Jeff_&_Kelli 05/14/21 01:13pm Truck Campers
RE: Can't overcome the fear of buying a Truck and TC.......

I'm just a couple months from retiring. I have my good old 2000 F-250 and 2000 S&S TC. Both units are setup great. New engine, rebuilt suspension with heavier springs. Electrical connections between TC and Truck alternator, more solar and better batteries coming. I'll hang onto my trusty Truck and camper a couple more years before upgrading to something else used. Investments should be at a peak and great time to sell what you need to to get what you want. I'm selling a rental. I'm done with that and am looking forward to hitting the road and seeing all those things I want to see. Don't wait too long for tomorrow because tomorrow may have different plans.
Camper_Jeff_&_Kelli 05/10/21 12:08am Truck Campers
RE: Recommendations for a noob...

You bought the right truck for the camper. The first thing lots of folks get wrong. I've used Torquelift, chains, and turn buckles for as long as I've had my setup. One thing I did do was get stainless steel chain connectors. I bought BIG turnbuckles and they're aluminum. Get a good quality blue drinking water hose so you don't get so much plastic taste in your water connection. It's a Ford so getting power to the TC through your pigtail is available. My truck a cube relay was required to be installed next to the fuse panel under the hood. research how yours works. Also, one the best things to do is get a smart solenoid and connect a 4 gauge from your alternator to your TC batteries for much better charging. I would get at least a 300 watt solar system installed with an MPPT controller. You can go from there how you want with batteries and other improvements. A 1000 watt pure sine wave inverter is a great thing to have for running your 120 volt appliances. Paper Plates, plastic ware, baby wipes, a couple GOOD camp chairs, ziploc bags. You can build a pretty good list. I kind of concentrated on things for the truck and camper. For other stuff, just get what you like at home and see how it fits in for your travel style and before long, you'll have a good idea of what works. Best wishes on your soon to be travels...
Camper_Jeff_&_Kelli 05/06/21 11:27pm Truck Campers
RE: RV.net Truck Camper Forum for 20 Years

I've got thirteen years now. You guys must be really old (:o)! I can still remember my first post, I think, I had just gotten my 2000 S&S 9.5 Ponderosa and F-250 all outfitted and was so proud of it. I asked what items do you have and use in your truck camper. Got a bunch of good answers. Coffee grinder, flannel sheets, electric heater, go cups, paper plates, baby wipes, plastic ware, inverter, things I still use and recommend today. Here's to many more years for everyone!!! J&K
Camper_Jeff_&_Kelli 05/04/21 01:19pm Truck Campers
RE: Amerigo Restoration vlog update - April 2021

Hey Matt, Been a while... https://0ewctw.bl.files.1drv.com/y4p74vfE-e2lZW3O6pztHBtV3U2QdDKvZw7-Z7TFSZGl9GpcP6Lr23k9NQOyLh5gAWRwDsXfxVhN_JTnhlFbLbH9IuPKShayhB9_DQTOD8lN65bBur6Ze2GNKTl-naUt9Spa9P_6pVdKZMzcGP9E8gWUeOlXnO2301BTBGUGPy-M97vws8WQPNI_MW0SFQlmbnCKX-9AVrAVwtUpLzG0Uaay0EMlCi5noAu6Qq1qPDdLxw/NATCOA%20Fall%20Colors%20TC%20Caravan%2010_10_2010%20328.JPG?psid=1
Camper_Jeff_&_Kelli 04/30/21 08:17pm Truck Campers
RE: Installation FIT DISCREPENCIES On Amish Built Cooling Unit

What is this?? A compressor conversion, or absorbtion replacement?? ...Lost in the woods... 3 tons Notice how the splash picture shows a propane valve, a burner, an igniter, a thermocouple, a fire box compartment, a sheet metal chimney, a reservoir and pipes. This video shows an Absorption type fridge. You can see the flame in a couple places and a compressor never appears, neither is the word spoken in this video. I did look into the Amish Built Compressor conversion fridge but decided it wasn't the right fit for a truck camper though that is probably an arguable point. We would have to triple our solar and get a large enough bank of LI FE batteries to provide enough power to run a compressor fridge. This video actually is focused on dealing with the problems that arise while installing the new cooling unit and the modifications that had to be made to make parts fit or work with the new unit. If you are interested in doing the compressor type fridge conversion, here is a good video how this couple did theirs by "Morton's On The Move". A note on performance, They say their compressor achieves about 40 degrees inside. My new Absorption unit achieves 30 in the fridge and 3 in the freezer on an 80 degree day with the fridge exterior wall exposed to the sun. I could if I wanted, run the fridge off my 600 watt PSW inverter and 234 watts of solar for a few hours a day, longer if driving off the alternator. I do not understand the urge to go compressor over Absorption. Absorption is a very efficient and versatile system. OK, Here are those two videos. "Morton's On The Move". They also did a 6 month update video.
Camper_Jeff_&_Kelli 04/26/21 11:54am Truck Campers
RE: Installation FIT DISCREPENCIES On Amish Built Cooling Unit

Good detailed video. TY for posting. Thank You...
Camper_Jeff_&_Kelli 04/26/21 11:15am Truck Campers
Installation FIT DISCREPENCIES On Amish Built Cooling Unit

https://external-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQEq7lhIjYX5mY9V&w=500&h=261&url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2FyJXImPyGEoM%2Fmaxresdefault.jpg&cfs=1&ext=jpg&ccb=3-5&_nc_hash=AQHU9MGnKkPHR8zu Installation FIT DISCREPENCIES On Amish Built Fridge Cooling Unit This video shows the fit discrepancies encountered while reinstalling the original parts onto the new Amish Built Cooling Unit. Not terribly difficult but each one may have it's own challenges or perhaps no problems at all. The fridge is now back in and working great so far. If anyone is looking to do this project themselves, this series of videos will help greatly.
Camper_Jeff_&_Kelli 04/25/21 01:05pm Truck Campers
RE: Anyone heard of a Combo AC/DC Air conditioner?

We have had no problem leaving the cat in the TC on hot days with the two Fantastic Fans blowing one in one out and the TC cab over windows open also the smaller kitchen window. He actually seems to like it laying on the bed with his head in the breeze to sniff. 264 watts of solar panels easily manages the power requirement. If the cat wants AC, he can pay for it!
Camper_Jeff_&_Kelli 04/24/21 02:27pm Truck Campers
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