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RE: New 2024 Chevy HD and Increased Dmax Power

I can't wait to see the prices. The GMC version is up $2K+ on the 2023 over the 2022 across the board which they hid most of in the option and package selection. By 2024 they'll be passing down the new corporate tax that kicks in on January 1st, because corporations do not pay taxes, the folks who buy their products do. That is so true. It is amazing to me how many people don't understand that corporate taxes are basically hidden taxes that make it easier for foreign competition to take away our businesses.
Groover 09/27/22 02:09pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Alcohol Detection Systems in All New Vehicles

It makes more sense that most of their rules. I am tired of the excuse for seatbelt laws is that you need them because some other people drive stupidly.
Groover 09/24/22 12:10pm Around the Campfire
RE: Tesla Semi truck unveil & test ride set for Oct 26th !

What the ....? Why do you even have to lie and distort to give excuses to these grossly incompetent and criminally negligent Texas leaders and electric company? Those who died froze to death inside their homes for lack of power for heating. Re-read you post then, if you mention your experience of being inconvenienced of a canceled game in the same breath of topic of people freezing to death, it is implied. No argument that TX utility companies weren't prepared for a record cold spell of that magnitude and geographical breadth. But think about what you're implying. First, you're implying intent to harm...ya pretty sure that wasn't the case. Second, I can think of any number of natural disasters or weather extremes that kill people who are either not prepared or in the wrong place at the wrong time. This was no different. Could those folks have been spared if the power didn't go out? Sure. By the same token, everyone killed in a tornado could be spared if the govt builds a huge tornado shelter in every trailer park. But wait, at some point for that to work, also requires everyone to GO to the shelter. Same thing here, bud. I understand that your view (and others) differs from mine and that general mindset that "nothing is MY fault" and "the Govt's responsibility is to take care of ME" is hard to overcome when you've literally become dependent on everything but yourself. Another looks here? First dismissing, now 246 deaths, to the inconvenience of your own canceled game. And now your diverting it to the false equivalence of tornado deaths. Dude, these utilities and their incompetent and thoughtless leaders in Texas would just have leaned harder on them since decades earlier state's lack of preparedness for such storms in a report from U.S. federal regulators and Texas own Electric Reliability Council. Thus preventable. What wrong with you?:h Nobody in California has the right to claim that someone else's utility company is poorly run. Fix your own then show us how it is done.
Groover 09/24/22 06:52am Tow Vehicles
RE: Tesla Semi truck unveil & test ride set for Oct 26th !

Utah great salt lake has enough lithium for milions of EVs https://youtu.be/l1LCFnoKKpU Are they going to be able to use that? These days, if you try to plant a rose bush environmental radicals shut you down. They probably won’t shut you down if it’s to make batteries. Well, at least if it’s batteries for electric vehicles that is! The environmental radicals have been a plague to Tesla Berlin. To the point that battery manufacturing machines are being pulled out and sent to the US.
Groover 09/20/22 01:43pm Tow Vehicles
RE: How many folks just want to gripe about EVs?

I'll go ahead with my 2 cents' worth: 1. I don't think EVs are there yet for heavy towing. Going to have to continue with ICE vehicles for a while longer. 2. One concern I have in particular is locating a lightweight EV auto that can be towed four-down. I don't know that it exists yet, but I could be wrong. (For the interim, one can have a four-down towable lightweight auto converted to EV. I've been toying with the idea for my MGB.) :) Lynn A reasonable post with real concerns. :) Yes, they're not yet great at heavy towing. They could be, but would be horrendously expensive right now. It'll take some time yet. No, there are no BEVs that are 4-down towable. There are a number of FWD models that can be towed on a dolly, including the reasonably priced Chevy Bolt, the upcoming FWD Equinox, the FWD Nissan Ariya, and others. There are some hybrids and PHEVs that are 4-down towable though. My thoughts; If a family is well off enough to have a RV it is near sure bet they have more than 1 vehicle. And this also true for most families in this country. Now if you have 2 cars, do they both need to tow heavy? Do they both need to be able to travel long distance without taking breaks to charge? 4 down towing; My understanding is EV does not have a transmission, so that is less problem than ICE. If can't disconnect wheels from motor, so what? You can spin a motor at max RPM, with no power to it with no harm. And will have less friction than spinning axles, gears and driveshafts in the 4X4s everybody uses now. If a manufacturer wanted to step into that market would likely sell many. "Do they both need to be able to travel long distance without taking breaks to charge? 4 down towing; My understanding is EV does not have a transmission, so that is less problem than ICE. If can't disconnect wheels from motor, so what? You can spin a motor at max RPM, with no power to it with no harm." Most every Tesla has at least one permanent magnet motor That would generate a lot of heat when being pulled and would quickly burn up. Tesla clearly stipulates no towing with any of the tires on the ground. I don't know about the other brands. On the other hand, it is not a problem when driving so I say to just let the car drive itself when hooked to the back of a motorhome. It could even assist with braking, acceleration and hill climbing. The car has plenty smarts to be able to let you know if it is having some type of trouble while running behing the motorhome and if its batteries get low just do some regen and charge them back up. I would love to have that on my Tesla.
Groover 09/20/22 01:38pm Around the Campfire
RE: How many folks just want to gripe about EVs?

As I said in my previous post, we SHOULD BE pushing PLUG-IN HYBRID vehicles now. It's a sensible compromise that has the best of both worlds. EV use for short, local trips. Gas engine hybrid use for long trips which will make use of a refueling infrastructure which is already in place. I'd like to see an EV with a designed "Optional generator" compartment. A compartment where you could drop oh say a Yahama EF-3600i or the equivlent Honda or _____(fill in make and model)____. That way if you want the ride for just "About town" you don't need to carry fuel and a heavy engine/genny.. (Saves energy) but you have the Genny in a "Storage" box should you need it during a power fail and you can easily transfer it to the car's Generator compartment for a long trip. As for the "Existing refuel infrastructure" one of the complaints early on in the EV field was "Not enough charging stations" I see the day when it becomes "Not enough gas pumps". You would need 15 to 20kw to keep up with a Model Y on the highway. That would be a rather larger generator to take in and out.
Groover 09/20/22 01:29pm Around the Campfire
RE: How many folks just want to gripe about EVs?

It's in our best interest for people to buy EVs... I really have to disagree with this statement. From beginning to end of the entire process, there is no clear "best" between EVs and ICE vehicles. ~Rick I don't think you'll find anyone with expertise who agrees with you. ICEs aren't sustainable and there isn't anyone maintaining they are. However, you are correct that EVs currently don't suit everyone's needs. Truth be told, we may never see fifth wheels towed by EVs. But it will be the 5ers that become extinct, not the EVs. JMO, but I think the more folks who adopt EVs, the less pressure on those of us who enjoy ICEs for our hobby. Sort of like how classic car guys don't have to worry about emission rules, we may become fringe enough that we can fly under the radar.;) Again, thanks to the mods for putting an EV thread in Campfire where it belongs. "I think the more folks who adopt EVs, the less pressure on those of us who enjoy ICEs for our hobby. " Absolutely! I drive my Tesla whenever it is appropriate and available but I have a motorhome and an F150 with trailer tow package for other types of trips.
Groover 09/17/22 05:25pm Around the Campfire
RE: How many folks just want to gripe about EVs?

Sure, I'll jump on this bandwagon. I think EV's are being pushed upon us and forcing technology upon us that will be outdated and very expensive to repair for those of us who keep our vehicles for a long time. Do I think that eventually that will be the way vehicles are powered? Most likely, unless something better comes along. But we're forcing the technology, creating powertrains and batteries that will be obsolete before the useful life of the vehicle has been reached, and ultimately will just add to the ever increasing landfill piles. I think Plug-In HYBRID vehicles should be what is pushed now and probably for the next 10+ years to give the EVs a chance to develop an infrastructure AND to allow the electrical grid time to expand and grow to fill the demand for widespread use of EVs. The batteries are MUCH smaller so each plug-in hybrid battery made is much less damaging to the planet. Or, put another way, more than a half a dozen plug-in hybrid batteries could be made using the resources for just one EV. A plug-in hybrid has an effectively an unlimited range, except for fuel stops. Long distance travel can be done with little change to our current life style. Short distance travel such as typical work commutes, can make use of the batteries for the first 40-60 miles, which is well within the average work commute. If you need to run extra errands that day, the gas engine will get you where you need to go. The distribution network for gasoline is already in place, so we don't have to search high and low for charging stations. I can't imagine having an EV minivan loaded up with the kids, heading out on vacation, and having to stop for potentially a few hours to recharge. And the EVs I've researched would could carry such a family are in the $80k+ range. A good gas powered minivan is in the $40-50K range, and plug-in hybrid hardware would only add a few thousand dollars to that platform. MUCH more economical, affordable and practical for middle-class families. Like I said, I think EVs WILL be the way we travel in the coming decades. But I don't like seeing "bleeding edge" technology forced upon the population, especially when it doesn't make good sense, given all of the issues. It effectively becomes a burdensome tax upon the lower and middle class citizens. For the time being, I would like to see the plug-in hybrids be the technology which is developed. In my opinion, it's a sensible compromise. :) ~Rick "A plug-in hybrid has an effectively an unlimited range, except for fuel stops." The same goes for EVs "For the time being, I would like to see the plug-in hybrids be the technology which is developed. In my opinion, it's a sensible compromise." I rejected the PHV concept because it just didn't seem worthwhile plugging it in and unplugging it for just 40 or 50 miles of range and marginal performance in that distance. Surveys have shown that most PHV owners don't ever plug them in. At least, they didn't 2 years ago. Maybe at the current gas prices it is worthwhile to more people. "I don't like seeing "bleeding edge" technology forced upon the population" I totally agree with that. If the government wants to control fuel consumption(aka carbon output) the should do it directly as a tax and let each driver decide how to respond. My 86 year old mother only drives 3,000 miles per year and wouldn't save money with an EV even at $10. It would never compensate for the carbon output of making a new car to replace hers. I have a 2005 Ranger and a minivan that are handy for certain tasks but only get driven in the 3 to 5,000 miles per year range.
Groover 09/17/22 05:21pm Around the Campfire
RE: TFLEV gets disinformation from Cyber Truck fan bois.

Groover my post post about the old reviews were about the older Hummers bubba Joe. I guess you missed that and I do still see them on rare occasion in Reno. Actually I think you are irrelevant So go get Go get what? Ice cream? Tacos? Herpes? I could go for the first two.
Groover 09/17/22 05:03pm Tow Vehicles
RE: TFLEV gets disinformation from Cyber Truck fan bois.

Cyber Truck Another niche market toy item for wealthy. Rivian is in financial trouble and the Hummers are not that common in Reno. Not practical for towing. According to reviews civilian Hummers perform poorly in actual off road and heavy-duty ops. I read these reviews many years ago, but they are still out there on Google search. Lost interest in video after a minute of smack talk. Cheers to those with com FYI, "civilian Hummers" and the new Hummers have nothing in common other than the name. The new Hummers have only been in production for a few months so the reviews that you read years ago are irrelevant. For the current one check here: EV Hummer
Groover 09/17/22 10:48am Tow Vehicles
RE: TFLEV gets disinformation from Cyber Truck fan bois.

I've seen a few of the rivians too. Not sure I'm calling them as ugly as grit. There more of a mid sized pickup SUV sized rig. Not sure a 4' bed is worth having. I'd want a 6' minimum. Not sure if I'm seeing the same one(s) per say, have seen enough to say there are many here in greater Seattle area. Multiple colors. Just like Tesla, some colorsi like, some are just plain fugly.... I could be seen in one of these, that Tesla pickup.....no thanks. Marty I agree with the 6' bed but apparently most buyers don't. F150's with the 6.5ft bed are rare. I have had dealers tell me that they can't sell them so they only order the 5.5ft bed for inventory. Colors are purely a personal choice. I know a guy that has a Rivian he likes it for the most part. It has a lot of storage in non-traditional places like under the hood and under the bed. A very high tech suspension with adjustable shocks and air bags. A great ride on all roads plus very good off-road capability. And it is rated to tow 10,000lbs, which is more than most tow with a half ton truck. He was working for Rivian and got a great employee discount package. I don't know if he would pay retail for it. His biggest issue seems to be the poor charging network. On long trips he mostly drives his Tesla since their charging network is much better.
Groover 09/17/22 10:28am Tow Vehicles
RE: How many folks want an EV

Well give me 450 miles with the heater or A/C running, and a competitive total cost of ownership and yes. For the past 5 years, I make two 424 round trip mile journeys to NJ each month to visit my MIL. The nursing home does not have a charger, and it is my only stop for more than 5 minutes. The Honda CRV and the F250 (with aux tank) can get the job done. I will keep making the trip until I or my MIL pass. Sometimes I miss a trip, but not often. I am the one that thinks EV's are a dead end. The path forward is stripping CO2 using amines from the air (just like subs, or cleaning CO2 from natural gas), then use U of Pittsburgh catalyst to make carbon monoxide, split hydrogen out of water, and use the Fischer–Tropsch process to make gasoline and diesel. Look for it to come to a Ford class carrier near you. After all, a gallon of jet fuel delivered to a carrier at sea has gotta be expensive. The fuel produced, will just blend in with the rest. This is also a storage scheme for renewable power from solar and wind. I think the cost of this method will make it work. There seems to be a dearth of Superchargers between WV and NJ so it would be a little premature for you to get a Tesla yet. I don't know how mountainous WV is where you are driving but in the western parts regeneration would save you a lot of brake wear and tear when going down hills and then a lot of fuel going up the next one. I really like the idea of synthetic gasoline but I have been reading stories about it being on the verge of practicality for 30 or 40 years. A lot longer than we have been waiting for the Tesla Semi or Cybertruck. I will believe it when I can buy it. But it would be nice to have a clean fuel for the engines that I already own.
Groover 09/15/22 05:34pm Tow Vehicles
RE: How many folks want an EV

The all use CVTs which only last about 100k miles, then $5k to replace. Sorry but they don't. No transmission at all on Tesla's and most other EVs. The motor is geared straight to the drive wheels. No gear changes, ever. To reverse it you change the current flow to the motor. Maybe you are thinking of hybrids but not all of them use CVT's either. I own a Tesla Model Y. We really like it. We have towed with it some but it isn't rated for the trailer that I tow the most. So far traveling hasn't been a problem and Tesla is building more chargers every day. If I had a Cybertruck I would tow with it but I haven't reserved a place in line so that is probably 5 or 6 years out. I probably won't need one by then.
Groover 09/15/22 02:33pm Tow Vehicles
RE: How many of you own an EV?

I own a Tesla Model Y. Bought it in March of 2021 for my wife. She drives it to work most days and loves it. I drive it whenever it is available and enjoy it. It has been used before to pull my 21ft off-shore fishing boat and did very well though range was reduced about 60%. Traveling with it has not been an issue. 18,000 miles and no issues so far. I sure would love to have its AWD system in my pickup for pulling trailers but it probably isn't the best for rock crawling. The price has gone up about $17,000 since I bought it, due mostly to supply and demand. I don't think that I would pay the current price for it but as the new factories crank up I expect the the supply/demand ratio to change and prices to come back down some. I am planning to trade my 2016 F150 for a new hybrid version soon. I don't have a reservation in for a Tesla pickup and don't want to wait that long. My trailer would be pretty hard on the battery anyway. Like some others I have switched to battery powered yard tools-string trimmer, limb pruner, blower and chainsaw. I went with a 60V Pro system and it is very impressive. Starts every time with just a push of a button and no noise or smoke.
Groover 09/11/22 08:41pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Tesla Semi truck unveil & test ride set for Oct 26th !

As an engineer I would like to work for either SpaceX or Tesla simply because more is getting done at those two companies than all the rest put together, at least from my point of view. It is more fun to work where things are happening. As a devoted grandfather, I have other priorities for the rest of my life.
Groover 08/05/22 08:22am Tow Vehicles
RE: New 2024 Ford HD trucks and they aren't electric

I love the way that Farley says the trucks will be all new followed by the reporter saying that it is really just a refresh.
Groover 07/31/22 01:26pm Tow Vehicles
RE: EV's need gas too - Tow with a Tesla?

Europe is now going back to coal, because the have to. Electricity is going to sky rocket beacuse green energy must be backed up with conventional power plants... So on order to have a reliable energy system, we will need to have two systems... The cost of this will be paid for by someone...Look in the mirror to see who will pay. Germany and several other countries are temporarily using coal to conserve natural gas, something that was usually coming from Russia and is now in very short supply. This is very easily confirmed. It has nothing to do with more EVs on the road. lol Compounding their stupidity Germany is still planning to shut down all three remaining nuclear power plants this year unless something has changed very recently. Washington Post on German stupidity The last I heard the Washington Post is a left leaning news source and even they think that Germany is stupid for doing this.
Groover 07/31/22 12:04pm Tow Vehicles
RE: First hand F150 hybrid experience anyone?

I figured that out a while back but it is amazing how many have strong opinions already. I have mostly been trying to explain to some why I am trying to get better info. I really thought that after two years of production someone here would have one.
Groover 07/10/22 03:58pm Tow Vehicles
RE: First hand F150 hybrid experience anyone?

Hi Groover So, what would be a test where someone could test a Hybrid towing a trailer that would be a fair test for the Hybrid but also show how people use there trucks towing a trailer? Outside of stop and go traffic, which is typically for commuter and only occasionally for an RVer that got stuck in traffic. Thanks As I recall TFL trucks did two tests. The first was a 70 mile fuel economy test on essentially level interstate with the cruise control on. So minimal braking and acceleration on this test. The second test was the Ike Gauntlet. Wide open one direction and riding the brakes the other. One battery discharge on the way up followed by one battery charge on the way down. On these tests the weight of the system may do more harm than it's assist returns as good. I rarely find myself going either totally flat for 70 miles or traversing 7 miles of continuous grade. Even the Interstates around here have a hill maybe a mile long followed by a similar downhill that requires braking when pulling a heavy trailer. Granted that a 1.5kwhr battery can only store 2 horsepower hours of power but that is 60hp minutes. Enough to help all the way up and down most of these hills. So it is quite reasonable to ask how much it helps on these hills. How much power does it store while controlling speed going down a hill for a minute, how much less are the brakes used. Then, how much power is returned going up the next hill? Likewise, what benefits does the system return when doing a stop from 60mph and then returning back to 60mph? Does the transmission stay cooler since the hybrid system pulls power out and puts it back in without going through the torque converter? That is not an unusual situation for me when trailer towing. I just want to get some real world feedback for the type of situations where bybrid systems do work well.
Groover 07/10/22 02:05pm Tow Vehicles
RE: First hand F150 hybrid experience anyone?

All of the towing tests that I have seen are designed in a way that avoids taking advantage of the hybrid capabilities but I believe that the way that I do most of my towing I would benefit. I was hoping to get some results from driving similar to mine. I don't think it's designed to "avoid taking advantage of the hybrid capabilities". I think it's designed to mimic typical towing scenarios. Not many people purposely drive in stop & go traffic while towing an RV. Typically, they are getting out of town on the open road where they can just hum along at a steady speed. It just happens that it doesn't favor a hybrid solution. By contrast, if you are buying a commuter car (or truck), it's very typical to wind up in stop & go conditions that favor a hybrid. No secret agenda, just how each vehicle is typically used. I did not say that it was done on purpose, just stated that it was done. I understand that tests are only of value if they are repeatable and the simple test procedure used is easy to repeat. Now that new technology has come along the simple test may not reflect the benefits of that new tech. Also, you have a good point that many campers do long hauls and may not see much benefit from hybrids either. But that is not the way that I use my truck and I have been looking for information more relevant to my use. I did find it a bit appalling that TFL Trucks did trumpet the news that the hybrid did not help their towing fuel economy in their test. Anyone that knows how hybrids work could have told them that in advance. If they wanted to earn my respect they would have devised tests to make use of the hybrid system and compared it with a non-hybrid so that there would have been some relevant information in the article.
Groover 07/06/22 05:38pm Tow Vehicles
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