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RE: Larger replacement fuel tanks for gas trucks
Ford is 34 gallon on their short beds and 48 on the long's.
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JTrac
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03/15/20 06:27am |
Tow Vehicles
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RE: The new ride came in
I like it! What are the towing and payload numbers?
Thanks!
Kevin
towing -
20,000# conventional towing
21,700# fifth wheel
5461# payload per sticker
30,000# GCWR
Before someone questions your numbers I think the payload is 4561, not 5461. You would think your computer would know better and do an auto correct. I got you beat by one pound at 4562. I'm going into my 3rd month with mine and the performance beats anything I have ever owned. Congratulations and let us know how it performs for you. It's a beautiful truck.
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JTrac
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03/09/20 06:53am |
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RE: Montana vs. Arctic Fox vs. Grand Design
We've looked at Redwood, GD Solitude, Vilano and Jayco Pinnacle in our kind of interested search. We found some things we did not like and some we did. All of them seem lacking in certain areas. Kitchen, bathroom and bedroom storage and closet space are important to the wife and only one in the 34 to 37 foot range we are considering checked all the boxes. That was the Pinnacle. They made some changes with the 2020's to improve the frame, use Dexter axles and US made Goodyear Endurance tires. But, they use electric slide mechanisms instead of hydraulic and do not offer disc brakes. They do have a 2 year warranty. We are going to see a GD 344GK tomorrow to see how it compares.
An Arctic Fox 325M might be a good one to consider but the nearest dealer is 400 miles from us. I did do some calling to see about pricing. One of our absolutes is a residential fridge and NW refuses to do it. The dealer I talked to even asked it they could get one without the Norcold or whatever they use and the dealer would install a residential for us. NW said no. I think they target the boon docking crowd instead of us wimpy full hook up types.
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JTrac
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03/01/20 03:38pm |
Fifth-Wheels
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RE: Gooseneck or 5th wheel
Lippert approves the use of the Reese Goose Box with their frames and since most fifth wheels made today have frames by Lippert, probably works on most of them. The 20K Goose Box weighs 225 pounds so it is substantial. Gen-Y also makes one which uses a rubber torsion system instead of the air bag like the Goose Box. On another forum a fellow who has a New Horizons being built said NH was going to test the Gen-Y version on their fifth wheels but the hole patterns did not match up so it was being delayed. The beauty of those systems is there is no hitch to store, whether its lightweight or not. Just a 5 pound or so ball to remove.
A traditional style hitch, an Andersen type or Goose Box/Gen-Y all accomplish the same thing. My guess is failures are extremely rare. All that matters is if you like it and are comfortable with it.
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JTrac
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02/27/20 12:06pm |
Fifth-Wheels
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RE: Ford Puck System
Simple. You will see 5 holes with plastic covers. The 4 corner holes are used for mounting a fifth wheel hitch. The center hole is for a goose neck ball. If you don't have the holes you don't have the puck system. If you do the bracings are all underneath the bed. All you will see in the bed is the holes.
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JTrac
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02/20/20 07:01am |
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RE: Quest for the perfect 5th wheel
Their downside for the wife is they absolutely will not do a residential fridge. That is a deal breaker for her. We had several repeat bad experiences with a Norcold in a previous motorhome we owned.
Good luck with your search.
did you mean without a residential fridge?
Of course that is what I meant. Leaving out one word changes the whole meaning. Should have said "without" a residential fridge. We lost food several times with the Norcold double door 12cf gas/electric. We changed it out to a Samsung 18cf before we sold the motorhome and that is what we have in our current fifth wheel. It cools down quickly and stays there. Plus there's plenty of room for our occasional 5 to 6 week trips.
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JTrac
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02/07/20 08:20pm |
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RE: Quest for the perfect 5th wheel
We are in no hurry but at some point are looking to get something in the 34 to 38 feet overall length range. We looked over several at a recent show. The Cedar Creek did not quite measure up in our opinion. Our two favorites were a Redwood and a Solitude, in that order. The model of Solitude we would like to see was not at the show as was not the Redwood so we just looked at how they were laid out and put together. You just can't see what is hidden but with just a cursory look we liked the Redwood best. It appears their 3401RL would be a nice fit for us and our truck so it will be on the list. What I would love to consider is an Artic Fox 32-5M but without traveling hundreds of miles we will never see one. Their downside for the wife is they absolutely will not do a residential fridge. That is a deal breaker for her. We had several repeat bad experiences with a Norcold in a previous motorhome we owned.
Good luck with your search.
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JTrac
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02/06/20 09:15pm |
Fifth-Wheels
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RE: 2020 vs '17-'19 Ford 6.7
I added SRW to my signature. Should have thought of that before.
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JTrac
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02/05/20 06:52pm |
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RE: 2020 vs '17-'19 Ford 6.7
I came from a 17 F350 dual to what you see now. The driving experience is a quite a bit different. First, the seat of pants feel of the torque is very noticeable. Throttle response is quite a bit better. Not a fair comparison with the dually but I'm getting 20 plus mpg highway and 15 to 16 in town driving vs 15 or so highway and 13 in town for the 17. The 10 speed is very smooth. It's almost like driving the wife's Subaru Ascent with the continuously variable transmission.
The steering is the biggest improvement. It is very solid and has the right feel for whatever speed. I had bump steer in the 17 from day one and finally changed the steering damper to a new Fox and it went away. It still tended to drift at highway speeds but wasn't something that bothered me too much. I intentionally drove over some rough roads when I got the 20 and not a hint of bump steer and there is no drifting at highway speeds. The ride is much improved also. I'm not sure what Ford did but it feels more forgiving with the bumps. It could be I'm comparing a single rear wheel to a dually but I do like it.
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JTrac
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02/05/20 06:17am |
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RE: F350 Super Duty vs 3500 Denali vs The Ike Pulling 30k lbs
Did Ford send a ringer or perhaps a better way to say it is did Ford send a prototype 2020 that doesnt have "customer available" tuning? It will be interesting to see what Ram does, if it hits where it theoreticly should for its power spec, it would suggest that either Ford is out performing their advertised power rating or they gave these guys a "hot" pickup to test. Given that Ford has historicly underperformed it would suggest a change in philosophy by Ford if it is the former.
I wonder if in years past having the best spec was great for advertising and no way for anyone to really challenge that. Now that these internet runs up big hills are so highly viewed, you cant just throw numbers out there, you actually have to back it up or you get called out for bogus power numbers. Maybe Ford has taken the approach that outperforming in these shootouts will serve them better than showing big numbers in ads but lackluster perfomance in the internet pull offs. If their goal is to be dominate on these runs , they certainly achieved it. Ultimately the Duramax probably did as could be expected (I will leave that to others to define) given its lower numbers. However, Ford's Hero run up the hill made the Dmax look anemic by comparison.
From what I'm hearing the Power Stroke is under rated. A game I'm sure the others have played. Another nice bonus is some are reporting improved fuel economy with the new Power Stroke as well.
I haven't had mine long enough to really get a feel for it but on a couple of 100 mile plus trips that included several stop lights and a little in town driving I got 19.5 on one trip and 20.2 on the other. I'm getting about 15.5 around town. I didn't buy it for the mileage but it is a bonus compared to what I was getting with my previous Ford. My problem is keeping my foot out of it. It feels like it wants to fly. I'm anxious to get the fifth wheel hooked up but waiting on a new hitch to arrive next week.
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JTrac
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02/01/20 06:34am |
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RE: 5th wheel hitches
I am looking to get a new F350 and hitch. I have had the Reese which served me well, but I am looking at the Blue Ox super ride. https://www.blueoxtowbars.com/categories/Blue_Ox_Fifth_Wheel_Hitches,1688 It appears strong (20K), light and innovative. Anyone with experience with it? I know its new, but I hope some one had some experience with it. If so please be speicic about pros and cons. Thanks.
I asked about this hitch sometime back and I don't remember getting any responses. They look great and I like the design but then discovered they aren't so light weight. According to the website the hitch that attaches to a goose neck ball weighs 210 pounds and the model for rails is 180 pounds. I was looking to replace my Trailer Saver BD3 because it was getting heavy for me at 160 pounds, even though it does separate in 2 pieces. I have a Reese Goose Box on order so all I will have to lift is the 5 pound goose neck ball.
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JTrac
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01/31/20 08:32pm |
Fifth-Wheels
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RE: 5th wheel hitches
I checked on the Reese Goose Box. It says made to CSA (Canadian Standards Association) and SAE J2638 standards. Good to know. Thanks for pointing this out.
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JTrac
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01/29/20 10:15pm |
Fifth-Wheels
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RE: 5th wheel hitches
A little against the grain but I just sold my BD3 and waiting on a Reese Goose Box. It is becoming increasingly difficult for the wife and I to remove a heavy hitch, even the BD3 which comes apart but does have a total weight of 165 pounds. For the past several years I just left it in the truck from April to November, kind of a pain when I really needed my full bed on occasion. The 20K Goose Box weighs 225 pounds but I only have to install it once. When I want my full bed all I need to do is remove a 5 pound ball. I have high hopes for it based on the reviews but we'll see.
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JTrac
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01/28/20 08:21pm |
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RE: New 5th Wheel Manufacturer
So far many RV's like Hartland products are glitz and glammor with inadequate engineering incorporated for travel and endurance. It is difficult to "polish a turd". I fully support entreprenureship if it enhances things that would contribute to a better and improved product. I will sit back and evaluate this new company as they progress. I really hope they come up with a product that moves the RV industry forward. BTY many management folks in the RV industry have been quoted in the past that the reason that past RV manufacturers go out of business was because they put too much quality into the product that diminished the profitability. They felt the public wanted inexpensive rather than quality.
I totally agree. We have seen it before. Theres nothing special about their engineering, frame, or otherwise. Just another cookie cutter like all the others. Since the demise of NuWa, Carriage/Lifestyle, Excel they are all built the same. That goes for Vanleigh, too. Throw a beautiful pint job on it and it's the icing on the cake for the typical American buyer.
We thought when we bought our Excel 8 years ago that we would maybe do one more, which would have been our 4th Excel. That didn't work out so well. We look but just can't find anything that matches the feel of quality ours has. Most just look flimsy. We don't want anything super heavy or priced like a New Horizon. Excel was kind of in the high middle but not many of those left. I hope this new company builds a good reputation but have my doubts. They do look good though.
We considered an Artic Fox but they do not offer a residential fridge. If they ever do they will be on our list but I'd probably have to drive 800 miles just to see one.
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JTrac
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01/20/20 02:28pm |
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RE: Ford Increases GVWR for 2020 Trucks
My new 2020 has the 12,400 rating and 4562 lbs payload. The GM's have 12,250 in the same long bed configuration. The short bed GM has 12,100 but the Ford short beds stayed at 11,500. I think they did it so they can say the have the highest payload capacity of any single rear wheel truck. I'm not sure why they didn't try to beat the short bed capacity of the GM models. I don't know how this stacks up against the Rams.
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JTrac
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01/15/20 07:27pm |
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RE: just saw my 1st 2020 F-350's
I gotta say, ALL of the big 3 have come a long way in the past 10 years..
I stopped on the way home tonight to look at the 2020 Lariat, 6.7, 4x4, Long Bed sitting at the local dealer ..
curb weight - 7490#
GVW - 12,400
listed payload on sticker - 4514
RAWR - 8300.. I may be wrong on that, but am pretty sure I saw that listed..
just for example, those numbers are a decent jump just from a 2015... payload is 1200# higher...GVW is 1,000# higher... curb weight is 1000# lighter...RAWR is about 1000 or 1200 higher...
They are ALL making it easier to justify a SRW with those numbers...
You need to drive one to really get a feel for the changes, especially with the engine and new 10 speed transmission. It is very smooth and takes very little pedal to get it moving along smartly. It is as quiet a vehicle as I have ever been in. The transmission shifts at low speed were a little rough until it learned my driving habits, which took about 50 miles.
Mine has a payload of 4562, about 600 to 700 more than I need. My last 2 trucks have been duallies and I don't want another. This one will work for me until I decide to retire from the lifestyle. At my age that could be tomorrow or 10 years, who knows.
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JTrac
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01/09/20 09:07pm |
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RE: New 2020 Ford engines for Super Duty (gas or diesel) who has one, or towed with one?
I wonder if Ford has fixed the death wobble on the new 2020. Over on the IRV2 site there's a thread about Fords death wobble and the TSB thats out. Looks like a band-aide fix coming Jan.
Unfortunately that always seems to be the case when this issue pops up. The new Jeep and Ram has also had issues with this and difficult to resolve.
I've driven mine for a couple of days now. It is much more solid in the front end than what my 17 was. I had to change the steering stabilizer in the 17 to get rid of the bump steer. I've intentionally driven the 20 over some bad roads to see what happens and nothing but normal. No shaking or anything and that was before I changed the shocks. I had ordered a set of Fox 2.0 shocks before I got it. That is one of the first things I do when I get a new truck, get the factory ones off and put a set of good ones on. The ride with the Fox shocks is really much smoother and controlled.
Power wise there is a noticeable difference in the seat of the pants torque. The 10 speed is almost like driving the wife's Subaru with its CVT. Very smooth with very little feel of any shifting. I had the adaptive cruise set at 75 on the way home and got stuck behind a car going 60. When I moved over to go around it got back to 75 very quickly but never shifted out of 10th gear. It will be a while before I tow anything so can't say anything about that yet.
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JTrac
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01/03/20 06:26am |
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RE: F450 vs F350 SRW payload
This is payload sticker on my 20 F350, srw, 4X4 diesel which I picked up yesterday.
On edit, can't get the picture to download. The payload is 4562.
For future, or now if you like, go to this site and upload your picture. Then simply copy the generated code and paste it in the post you are writing..... no need to use any of the forum tools.
Thanks. I don't post many pictures but that is good to know.
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JTrac
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01/01/20 08:39am |
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RE: F450 vs F350 SRW payload
This is payload sticker on my 20 F350, srw, 4X4 diesel which I picked up yesterday.
On edit, can't get the picture to download. The payload is 4562.
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JTrac
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01/01/20 08:01am |
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RE: New 2020 Ford engines for Super Duty (gas or diesel) who has one, or towed with one?
They are just hitting the dealers so probably not many yet. Join the Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forum, 2017+Super Duty (ford-truck.com/forums/forum279) and you might get more information. It's a pretty active forum and a few have had their ordered 7.3's delivered. I haven't seen any reports of anyone towing anything yet with either the 7.3 or the newly upgraded 6.7 diesel. Initial reports are good on both. A friend of mine test drove a 2020 model F-450 diesel, and told me he could tell a pretty significant difference in it versus his 2017 F-450 set up the same way. He said it's a hoss, and it has a little different sound to it when idling, he said a more noticeable lop to it, versus the previous. He was very impressed with the overall performance. I have yet to test drive one, but hope to soon. We have quite a few diesels showing up on our local dealers lots, but no big gasser's yet. You look like you have one coming, how is it speced out, obviously a diesel, single rear wheel, long bed, 4wd, it looks like from your signature. What all will you tow? Sounds like a nice rig!
I pick mine up in the morning. It is being delivered to the dealer this afternoon. Besides the 4X4 Platinum, diesel, long bed it will have the 3.31 e locker, bed spray, 5th wheel prep, upfitter switches, customer installed trailer camera, block heater, rapid heat with 397 alternator, cab lights, and fitted floor mats. It will pull our fifth wheel and bass boat, not at the same time. We are looking at maybe downsizing our fifth wheel in the next year.
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JTrac
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12/30/19 10:35am |
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