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RE: RVs and the NEC

Make no mistake though, that seal by the door certifying the unit as conforming to NFPA 1192 or whichever standard it's built to is most certainly a legal requirement. NFPA compliance is a voluntary requirement companies claim they meet. Having the RVIA seal is not mandatory. All that seal says is the manufacturer is a member of the RV Industry Association and claims they comply with NFPA, ANSI, whatever. Nothing says you have to be a member of RVIA to build and sell RVs. The RV Industry Association lobbies hard for minimum requirements. Why do you think most states have no lemon laws for towables. Bingo....the RVIA. A dead giveaway is RVbusiness.com which is sponsored by RVIA. They sugar coat and carefully select every article they have ever published, and are very good at turning a turd of an industry into a Rose. There are no code inspectors on or at the end of the line in RV factories certifying anything meets anything else. If one feels good and safe because they have an RVIA seal that's what its designed to do, mission accomplished. Reality is slightly different when brakes quit working, the plumbing and LPG system has multiple leaks, and the wiring connections are never tightened.. Well, it's voluntary to the point where it's legally required. LOL. As an example, in Texas the Transportation Code makes it illegal to tow a trailer on any public road if it has a built in propane system unless it meets NFPA 1192 standards and bears proof of same. In California the Health and Safety Code - HSC Div 13, PART 2 , CHAPTER 4, Section 18027.3. "h) It is unlawful for any person to do either of the following: (2) Alter or convert, or cause to be altered or converted, any recreational vehicle in a manner that is inconsistent with ANSI Standard No. A119.2 or A119.5 or the NFPA 1192 Standard on Recreational Vehicles when the recreational vehicle is used, occupied, sold, or offered for sale within this state." In California's Statutes, at 18871.5 states; "(b) A recreational vehicle that does not bear a label, an insignia, or an insignia of approval, as required by subdivision (f) or (g) of Section 18027.3, may not occupy any lot in a park unless the vehicle owner provides reasonable proof of compliance with ANSI Standard No. A119.2 or A119.5 depending upon whether it is a recreational vehicle or park trailer....." (NB: ANSI 119.2 is the same as NFPA 1192) In the case of Oregon it is incorporated into the Building Codes Division - Chapter 918 says at 918-525-0040; "(1) The minimum safety standards for recreational vehicles are adopted pursuant to OAR chapter 918, division 8. (2) Effective January 19, 2017, the following standards are adopted by reference as the standards for the manufacture of recreational vehicles: (a) The 2015 Edition of NFPA 1192, Standard on Recreational Vehicles, as published by the National Fire Protection Association. (b) The 2014 Edition of NFPA 70, National Electrical Code, specifically but not limited to, Article 551 pertaining to Recreational Vehicles, as published by the National Fire Protection Association. (c) The 2014 Edition of ANSI/RVIA Standard for Low Voltage Systems in Conversion and Recreational Vehicles, as published by the Recreational Vehicle Industry Association." So yes, it's LAW, of course you could just consider it as 'voluntary' and get sued or charged I guess.
JaxDad 05/24/19 11:35am Tech Issues
RE: Anyone use a new LIFAN generator?

I noticed LIFAN generators on a Web retailer. What caught my attention was It was EFI inverter unit enclosed. A 7000 watt unit was around $1600. Was thinking for a home backup unit, I tell the same thing to anyone think of a home backup generator. For homes with a gas furnace, hot water, gas cooking and clothes drying, you can "get by" on 3000W or less. 2000W if you are careful. Not if you have a drilled well you won’t, no matter how careful you are. The pump needs 220 volt power.
JaxDad 05/24/19 05:00am General RVing Issues
RE: RVs and the NEC

The fact that RVIA(RV Industry Association) has adopted the NEC as the recommended standard for electrical installations in RVs, it has no requirement that RV builders must follow the NEC. It is not a AHJ. While technically correct, you wrong. LOL It is one of those daisy-chains of bureaucracy we all love so much. The NEC, and other items covered by various other standards by NFPA, ANSI, CSA in our case up here, they are "life safety standards". Now, where it gets convoluted, is that the standards are national standards, but the adoption, requirement and enforcement fall to the individual States or Provinces. Make no mistake though, that seal by the door certifying the unit as conforming to NFPA 1192 or whichever standard it's built to is most certainly a legal requirement.
JaxDad 05/23/19 01:11pm Tech Issues
RE: Boarder crossing insanity - CBP gone crazy...

In 2008 we decided to tour a small portion of Canada in our 'new' motorhome (2008 Monaco Dynasty). Several years before we had taken a tour of the wine country in California bought A LOT of wine. Some of that wine made it into the motorhome in the upper cabinets in the dining and living area on the driver's side. They let us pay the tax/fine. It came out to $182.00 if I recall correctly. After paying the fine, the guard told us that we have been flagged in their computer. Safe travels, MM. I know it’s ‘a day late and a dollar short’, ok, 10 years late and many dollars short, but if you had said you were “transiting Canada” you would not have been ‘flagged’ and would have gotten your $182 back when you left Canada with the unopened bottles.
JaxDad 05/22/19 06:50pm General RVing Issues
RE: Boarder crossing insanity - CBP gone crazy...

Lol, really? Not the x-dressing part, the spouses clothes part, haha. Real rule or flavor of the week rule?Yes, real rule. If you have Nexus, you cannot take spouse's clothes into the US if the spouse isn't with you. I have no idea what that rule is for. It has nothing to do with the Nexus card, or the “trusted traveler” program, it applies to everyone regardless of citizenship and direction of travel, North or south. Clothes, as well as any other personal possessions including vehicles, are exempt from import duties if they are being imported temporarily during a visit as a tourist. If the owner of the clothes is not with the importer, even if a spouse, then they fail the ‘personal use’ exemption. BTW, even though people scream like a hungry eagle when you mention it, this is exactly the reason why things like a Canadian leaving a Canadian registered RV in the US and returning to Canada without it is illegal. If the RV was imported “temporarily” for the owners vacation but then left behind it’s no longer ‘baggage’. I heard from someone just recently who got stuck this way. The US & Canadian gov’s now share border crossing info. They headed south with a 5’er in the fall, upon trying to re-enter Canada this spring (without the 5’er which was then in the storage yard of their C/G) the CBSA agent asked them if they’d forgotten something? They knew they had left with an RV but weren’t bringing it back home and it hadn’t been imported either. They were offered the opportunity to return and retrieve their ‘forgotten’ RV or import it into the US legally.
JaxDad 05/22/19 06:41pm General RVing Issues
RE: $20 attic fan for summer heat---storage friendly

The rear face of the vent cover is louvered to stop the rain from blowing in. This means though that when wind hits from behind it also hits that louvred surface, this stops a lot of the direct flow of wind. Most vent covers are also sized such that when the vent is fully opened the lid just touches the cover, this stabilizes both the vent cover and the lid and eliminates rattling.
JaxDad 05/20/19 06:24am Do It Yourself Modifications and Upgrades (DIY)
RE: Electricity and electric and magnetic fields (EMFs)

A farmer near here got pinched by the nice folks at our electrical utility a while back. He had a very well lit barn and storage / shop building for his side business. Then we had a power failure....... When the linesmen went past they thought it odd that his outbuildings were well lit but not his house or anything else. Then it dawned on them, there was a 500 KV transmission corridor running across his pasture. When they discovered he ha buried a huge loop of wire zig-zagging back & forth beneath the transmission lines they handed hm a huge bill based on what they 'estimated' his consumption had been. So much for 'free' electricity.......
JaxDad 05/17/19 11:09am Tech Issues
RE: Florida fire

Why post this? I’m presuming you didn’t read the story....... “Crews responded to the gated RV community and began evacuating neighbors.”
JaxDad 05/17/19 05:48am General RVing Issues
RE: Motor with many miles on it

I’m not sure how many km’s those V10’s are good for......... My C has over 300k km on it and the F450’s & F550’s in my company fleet regularly run to well over 500k km before they get replaced. None of them has failed yet.
JaxDad 05/16/19 06:35pm Class C Motorhomes
RE: $20 attic fan for summer heat---storage friendly

A neighbour had his roof re-shingled and they changed the black 'whirlybird' roof vents to brown to match his new shingles. I scooped all 3, two went on my garage, the other I put on top of a little plywood box I built just big enough to drop down over a MaxAir vent cover. When parked for any length of time I drop the unit over one roof vent and leave the other wide open. On a warm day even if the air is dead still that vent spins around pretty good and you can feel the air moving from the inside. Zero power consumption, zero cost.
JaxDad 05/16/19 12:08pm Do It Yourself Modifications and Upgrades (DIY)
RE: Salesman trying to talk me out of a Class C

I’m probably in a very small minority here, I have both a C and an A. Each has their strengths and weaknesses. The C is far more car-like to drive, this especially comes up in more urban driving. In fact I can (and do) park in standard parking spots (as long as there’s a vacant spot or grass strip behind me). My C is a shorter one, a 24’er. It is my ‘motel room’ on wheels and is my ‘go to’ unit. It is also the unit my wife is very comfortable driving, in fact she often drives it solo when she meets me when I fly my plane to a destination. It is a lot lighter on storage, but has more than enough for us. The A is definitely more truck / bus-like in its driving experience. I definitely can’t park it in a standard parking space. My wife won’t get behind the wheel unless it’s for interstate travel only. There is an embarrassment of storage, if I lived in this thing I MIGHT fill the storage, but I doubt it. There is probably more than double, nearly triple the interior space, but to us that is mostly immaterial, we don’t have kids either. We don’t go someplace to sit inside and watch TV, as long as we each have a comfy seat, a kitchen and a bed we’re good. I think the big decision it comes down to is the intended use. If you are going to travel for a few days then camp for a longer period, or have a large family, you will probably be happier with the extra space. If you do more shorter trips, visiting cities and more congested areas, especially if just a couple, you might prefer the C. After owning both for a number of years, I find no difference in getting them serviced, gas mileage, or overall operating expenses. YMMV.
JaxDad 05/16/19 05:27am Class C Motorhomes
RE: 2 wheel dolly or flat tow?

When he found out that that rental, delivered to us, and ours to use for 3 days was going to cost $135 ($$45/day) and that was likely considerably LESS than the added cost of gas to drag a toad 3,000 miles round trip he was dumb-founded. I've never noticed any real impact to MPG towing a car behind our MH. If it is it's negligible and certainly nowhere near $45/day. Just rough math tells me that if I avg 8 MPG without my car, and say for the sake of argument it impacts my MPG by 1 when I tow(which I doubt) bringing it to 7 mpg, travelling 300 miles/day with gas at $2.50, I would pay an extra $13 a day to bring my own car. That's $31 less than the rental. I would have to see a decline in performance down to almost 5mpg to achieve $45/day. But using your 3000 mile round trip still comes in at $133, which is still less and I've had my own car for 10 days - not 3. Never mind that I am still paying for my car and it's insurance anyway while it sits at home - so if I rent I am now paying for 2 cars, one of which is sitting in my driveway. I like to be self sufficient, and towing my car is not only easy and cheap but I never have to worry about not finding a rental, one that hasn't been smoked in, not finding an uber or even a breakdown on the road. Renting a car has it's merits and we've done it, but it's not cheaper than towing your own. If I was a ‘flat-lander’ I might agree, but for me, Toronto to Florida involves well over 1,000 miles of mountains. Even if the gas money (never mind wear & tear, tires, tow hardware, etc., etc.) was the same, and it’s not, not even close, the other issue for me is that a toad means I have to deal with 40+ hours of extra work driving, dealing with extra hassle of gassing up, etc., etc. Also, because I normally travel for ‘work’ (the DW calls it play) I fairly regularly have to tow a trailer, if not the entire (one way) distance at least a few hundred miles. That’s impossible with a toad. I’ve had a toad, and for me, it’s NOT cheaper, or more convenient, or a workable solution.
JaxDad 05/13/19 04:09pm Beginning RVing
RE: 2 wheel dolly or flat tow?

I’m the ‘odd man out’ I guess..... I travel a LOT, over the course of a year, probably more than once a month, and Toronto to Florida probably 4 times a year. My average trip is 7 to 10 days. I’d NEVER drag a car behind. On a recent trip to Florida for an air show, a buddy who always brings a toad 4 down came along for a ‘boys trip’. He was VERY surprised that I not only wasn’t taking a toad, I flat out refused his offer of his. When we got there and a nice young man arrived a few hours later with a shiny new Mercedes SUV rental car he got pensive. When he found out that that rental, delivered to us, and ours to use for 3 days was going to cost $135 ($$45/day) and that was likely considerably LESS than the added cost of gas to drag a toad 3,000 miles round trip he was dumb-founded. On many trips I never even get a car, when I can’t get a ride but need one, Uber, Lyft or a taxi is just a couple of dollars. Uber Lyft and rental cars are an option when you city camp. And for the short duration trips you do. 7-10 days FL to Toronto means you’re piloting the RV most of the time anyway. Just like most other claims on rvnet, it’s fun to see how one person’s unique to them experience is touted as THE way to do it. I clearly said I was the odd man out, I did not say everyone must do it my way. You’re math is flawed too, I get from Toronto to Florida generally in 1.5 days, 15 hours the first day, 7 the second. 3 days out of 7 is less than half, out of 10 it’s less than a third. Certainly a lot less than “most of the time”.
JaxDad 05/13/19 03:39pm Beginning RVing
RE: 2 wheel dolly or flat tow?

I’m the ‘odd man out’ I guess..... I travel a LOT, over the course of a year, probably more than once a month, and Toronto to Florida probably 4 times a year. My average trip is 7 to 10 days. I’d NEVER drag a car behind. On a recent trip to Florida for an air show, a buddy who always brings a toad 4 down came along for a ‘boys trip’. He was VERY surprised that I not only wasn’t taking a toad, I flat out refused his offer of his. When we got there and a nice young man arrived a few hours later with a shiny new Mercedes SUV rental car he got pensive. When he found out that that rental, delivered to us, and ours to use for 3 days was going to cost $135 ($$45/day) and that was likely considerably LESS than the added cost of gas to drag a toad 3,000 miles round trip he was dumb-founded. On many trips I never even get a car, when I can’t get a ride but need one, Uber, Lyft or a taxi is just a couple of dollars.
JaxDad 05/11/19 05:07pm Beginning RVing
RE: Trail cams

Great, but mostly it wouldn't take a picture of a passing elephant. I feed them in front of the camera and I get nothing.... Any ideas ?? .. Maybe it’s just because there aren’t many wild elephants in your area.
JaxDad 05/10/19 06:23am Tech Issues
RE: Service Temporarily Unavailable! Please try again later.

Maybe the lawyers bills are taking up too much of the budget these days...... Ooooops.......
JaxDad 05/07/19 02:39pm General RVing Issues
RE: TT depreciation per year according to kbb? Cargo trailers

Why would he need an engineering firm to do anything? If he has a modicum of skill he can do it himself. These things are not space shuttles for God's sake! No he wouldn't have that cute little RVIA sticker that adds 3 or 4 hundred to the price of a camper,but I am sure that he will build better quality than any manufacturer would. Oh the bit that some campgrounds have about it being RVIA approved? So what. Most campground prohibit weapons and alcohol also.If I followed the "RULE" I would never leave home. Never once has the kid in the office inspected or even asked about the camper and what I have on board. Rules are not laws! Ever heard that old line? “Ignorance of the Law is no excuse.” That “cute little RVIA sticker” means jack, complying with the standards (required by law, not rules) it certifies that unit is in compliance is compulsory though. Just because your factory built RV has never been questioned means what in regards to a homemade job? Zero. Do YOU not realize that YOUR STUPID CANADIAN RULES DO NOT APPLY ANYWHERE OTHER THAN CANADA. Here in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WE DO NOT NEED SPECIALIZED LICENSED PROPANE, ELECTRICAL, MECHANICAL, PLUMBING contractor, engineers or licensing or any other governmental interventions when it comes to RVs or any other mobile installation. The only thing that we do need to take into consideration is that our trailers must meet Federal and local outside lighting requirements and we follow good electrical and plumbing practices. In a nutshell, as long as the outside of the trailer meets or exceeds DOT standards, what we modify inside is of no concern to ANY USA authorities. So, unless the OP happens to be from Canada, they have ZERO issue with making their own RV from a Cargo trailer provided the trailer has a valid title and is roadworthy according to all State and Federal motor vehicle rules.. You’re a funny guy...... “Funny” in a sad, pathetic little angry man kind of way. First off, where I live has zero to do with my citizenship, so you can stop the slandering before I tell you the whole story and really make you look even more foolish. Secondly, life safety items are NOT just for S & B type places where people live, and YES they are LAWS, AMERICAN laws. The part of the vehicle that is, well, a vehicle must conform to FDOT standards, but as soon as you install hard-wired 120 volt wiring, piped in propane, etc., etc., various ‘life safety’ standard, required by law, kick in. As just one example, since you seem pretty slow to pick up on these simplest of things, in Texas for example, under the Transportation Code it’s illegal to tow a trailer on any public road if it has a built in propane system unless it meets NFPA 1192 standards and bears proof of same. In California the Health and Safety Code - HSC Div 13, PART 2 , CHAPTER 4, Section 18027.3. "h) It is unlawful for any person to do either of the following: (2) Alter or convert, or cause to be altered or converted, any recreational vehicle in a manner that is inconsistent with ANSI Standard No. A119.2 or A119.5 or the NFPA 1192 Standard on Recreational Vehicles when the recreational vehicle is used, occupied, sold, or offered for sale within this state."
JaxDad 05/07/19 05:19am General RVing Issues
RE: TT depreciation per year according to kbb? Cargo trailers

Why would he need an engineering firm to do anything? If he has a modicum of skill he can do it himself. These things are not space shuttles for God's sake! No he wouldn't have that cute little RVIA sticker that adds 3 or 4 hundred to the price of a camper,but I am sure that he will build better quality than any manufacturer would. Oh the bit that some campgrounds have about it being RVIA approved? So what. Most campground prohibit weapons and alcohol also.If I followed the "RULE" I would never leave home. Never once has the kid in the office inspected or even asked about the camper and what I have on board. Rules are not laws! Ever heard that old line? “Ignorance of the Law is no excuse.” That “cute little RVIA sticker” means jack, complying with the standards (required by law, not rules) it certifies that unit is in compliance is compulsory though. Just because your factory built RV has never been questioned means what in regards to a homemade job? Zero.
JaxDad 05/05/19 03:06pm General RVing Issues
RE: Cargo Trailer Conversion - Propane Issue

Sorry, by ‘answering your own question’ I meant when you said “Yes, I know, tents don't have "installed" gear, but.....”. The ‘installed gear’ is EXACTLY the problem. If you had a cargo trailer ‘conversion’ with a portable propane cooktop, a portable propane water heater, a 12 volt fridge and lighting you’d be golden.
JaxDad 05/03/19 03:59pm Do It Yourself Modifications and Upgrades (DIY)
RE: TT depreciation per year according to kbb? Cargo trailers

I'm trying to establish some guide lines for myself when making offers on enclosed trailers. I want to convert one into a Toyhauler. Thanks Before you get too far down that “conversion” road, you need to make a few decisions about how you’re going to use it and where. If you plan on building in things like propane stove, burners, or hot water heater or wired in 120 volt systems you need to plan on only boondocking or budget some money on a specialty engineering firm to certify it for you, or a licensed specialty conversion shop to do it for you.
JaxDad 05/03/19 03:19pm General RVing Issues
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