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RE: Towing capacity vs max cargo weight rating

So moving on to the next thought. Let’s say I put 4080 lb tires on the Ram. Which is 880 lbs more payload in the rear, Theoretically. So 880 plus 4156 equals 5036. Not far off a 3500 dually payload rating. Lol. You can call those 295/70R18 tires super singles.
MikeRP 01/18/21 07:11pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Towing capacity vs max cargo weight rating

Interestingly his tires are Continental with a 3415 lb rating per tire which is 225 lbs per tire less. Am that would get you to 450 lbs of the difference between 4156 and 3415. So that would get you to 3865. Another 140 lbs in the diesel tank differences. That would get you to 4005. Maybe there is little difference afterall!!! Well frick you live and learn! And to me this just proves mods either way can affect they payload up and to the axle/ tire ratings. I told my friend to get the 3640 lbs tires when the Continentals are worn out. You have to think that Ford may lose some sales over this difference. When in truth the trucks are essentially equal. Peace
MikeRP 01/18/21 07:04pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Towing capacity vs max cargo weight rating

Interestingly his tires are Continental with a 3415 lb rating per tire which is 225 lbs per tire less. Am that would get you to 450 lbs of the difference between 4156 and 3415. So that would get you to 3865. Another 140 lbs in the diesel tank differences. That would get you to 4005. Maybe there is little difference afterall!!! Well frick you live and learn!
MikeRP 01/18/21 06:48pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Towing capacity vs max cargo weight rating

The first F 350 platinum edition I pull up on Autotrader has this GVWR problem. So go to Herb Chambers Ford of Westborough. Look for a black F350 platinum edition. 10,000 lb GVWR with 6000 front axle rating and. 7000 lb rear axle rating. The last pic on auto trader is this sticker. They don’t have the payload sticker up. Fascinating. The window sticker on that truck even has a line that says "PAYLOAD DOWNGRADE PACKAGE -- no charge". I can also see that a 2021 F-250 equivalent to my 2016 F-250 has only 240 lbs more on the RAWR. Good to know. The F-250 does not have the note about the payload being downgraded, however. Yeah this just makes the point. I my opinion, the manufacturer is going to take the position that we must follow there guidelines. They have no clue what folks will do to a truck after it’s purchased. To me the stickers are good for when purchased, and any changes after that can certainly modify the payload in a negative or positive manner. So they assume we are all idiots. And many would say we are haha, including my wifey. But we know this f350 is severely under its capability. But when you do buy a new truck, you can make sure at that time you get the payload capability you need. I just purchased a long bed 2020 3500 Ram Longhorn w 4156lbs payload. Which is 400 lbs better than my old truck and it has the adaptive cruise. I have a friend w a new 2019 Ford, Longbed, F350 Looks almost like mine and it has 3412 lbs payload. Nuts!!!!! We have nearly the same truck, same nearly the same axle ratings and 18 inch tires. I still have to check his tires but you know they are not 400 lbs each lighter. But his tow capability is nearly the same just the payload. Go figure.
MikeRP 01/18/21 06:22pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Towing capacity vs max cargo weight rating

The first F 350 platinum edition I pull up on Autotrader has this GVWR problem. So go to Herb Chambers Ford of Westborough. Look for a black F350 platinum edition. 10,000 lb GVWR with 6000 front axle rating and. 7000 lb rear axle rating. The last pic on auto trader is this sticker. They don’t have the payload sticker up.
MikeRP 01/18/21 06:23am Tow Vehicles
RE: Towing capacity vs max cargo weight rating

Ok So we’ve beat this to a pulp again. But at least, it has been a real discussion. Here in Columbus Ohio we have a lawyer commercial on all the time, Columbia Law where he talks about calling them if you’ve been injured by a truck any truck. Why? Because all the commercial truckers have a big liability policy. A lot of Rvers carry a million or two umbrella policy. But at least we can talk about it here, if you go over to the Keystone Cops forum you get ran out for not believing the weight police. Where the weight police are wrong, in my opinion, is that they only look at one side of the arguement. The defense lawyer will have very good arguments on the defendant side also. But, bottom line is can we improve safety? I consider a hard stop a near miss in the safety world. I had three hard stops on my 2018 Ram w the fifth wheel and three without the fifth wheel. The reasons for me in two cases were assured clear distance, two case drivers cutting in front of me or making unlikely fast stops and two were due to distracted driving. So recently I bought a new Ram with the distance pacing cruise control and the forward collision w stop plus the lane keeping function. I can attest that it works as advertised and has already helped me several times. I also found out that I have almost zero depth perception. I found this out starkly brining my new truck back from NC. The new system slowed me down on the freeway several times and I looked while it happened and I could not tell I needed to slow down till much closer. Im a bit ADD and this system I’m sure will help me w distracted driving and I can attest it gives me enough feedback to make me a better driver already. I also w the purchase upgraded my payload and towing ability but interestingly enough they have the same tires of my old truck but tows 3000+ more and has 500 lbs payload more. These weight limits don’t make you safe in my opinion. I’m not saying you shouldn’t know your weights relative to the axle tire ratings, but I don’t agree with getting people to trade in a perfectly good 250/2500 truck when that would be a serious financial hardship. Work on what safety really means, assured clear distance, minimizing distracted driving, your rig in great condition, watch your speed. Now I know why those old farts 20 years ago were towing a fiver 60-65 mph. Don’t drive sleepy. I also fell asleep a few seconds in early December for a second or two, I was speeding up and headed for the ditch. The new truck beeps and a few other annoying things to sleepers to wake them up. I don’t want to hit a SUV loaded w kids going full speed. I think we should spend more time fretting over safe driving habits. Peace
MikeRP 01/14/21 07:33pm Tow Vehicles
RE: SRW Tires

Cooper makes an AT3 XLT in 295/70R18 that has 4080 lbs capacity. It is only 1 inch taller than the stock 275/70R18’s (3640 lb)and is almost negligible difference on my speedo vs gps. Many others make this size also that sticks to 80 psi. So for my fifth wheel the extra 880 lb capacity theoretically translates to 4400 lbs additional fifth wheel weight at 20%. Of course I will never use that additional capacity but it does give me better wear characteristics since I’m running around 6600 lbs on the rear axle. The first set of Firestone at tires lost a lot of tread on a trip to key west towing my fiver. The Coopers have a 60,000 mile warranty plus they are much better on the farm.
MikeRP 01/08/21 02:48am Tow Vehicles
RE: 2021 Cummins 1075 lbft peak torque at 1356 rpm

One of the advantages Cummins has on these engines is a massive database of empirical results for their products in all kinds of duty cycles. They are masters at looking at the customers application and providing correct engine for the goals of the customer. I like all the Big 3’s products. Right now I’m just more familiar w Ram and I can’t get myself to buy a Ford.
MikeRP 01/01/21 06:18pm Tow Vehicles
RE: 2021 Cummins 1075 lbft peak torque at 1356 rpm

Torque charts are nice but just remember that's at full throttle and maximum boost while consuming maximum fuel. Not something you encounter when towing down the highway. For me what's more important is the torque the engine can make while towing and making the towing the easiest while making the best fuel economy. This is very difficult to quantify except for the fuel economy performance. In my mind the Power Stroke is the leader in this category for the 2020 models and I suspect will continue to lead for the 2021 models. Who really cares if one truck or the other tows up the Ike 12 seconds faster or slower than the other ones. All three are not your grandfather's truck anymore. Buy what turns your crank and enjoy it. 12 seconds isn’t much but I think the 2020 Ram was about a mile behind the 2020 Powerstroke. It might not matter but it kind of put the Powerstroke in a league of its own. I think it would be nice to see the 2021 close the gap a bit. If we limit speed to the speed limit up the IKE, AND if we tow a more normal even large fifth wheel up the IKE, AND we say for example that would be 20,000 lbs for that large RV load but it’s not the 30,000+ lbs max load on TFLTrucks, I’m 95%positive all the big three diesel trucks make it up the IKE within seconds of each other. This is a non issue for RVers now except for bragging rights like my truck is more powerful than yours. 2020's -------------Ram 3500------GMC Sierra 3500-Ford F-350 Downhill-----0 brakes------9 brakes--------5 brakes Uphill Time--11 min 32 sec-11 min 47 sec---10 min 20 sec Uphill MPG---2.5 MPG-------2.4 MPG----------2.4 MPG Subjective score-23.5 pts--22.5 pts--------23.5 pts Ike score----72.5 pts------59 pts----------81.5 pts https://tfltruck.com/2020/02/does-the-2020-ram-3500-cummins-out-tow-ford-and-gm-on-the-worlds-toughest-towing-test-video/ Yes I’ve watched that video. And I think they tested 30,000lbs without looking at it again. So my point is all of them would end up at the tip at the same time with 20,000 lbs, do you agree?
MikeRP 01/01/21 03:21pm Tow Vehicles
RE: 2021 Cummins 1075 lbft peak torque at 1356 rpm

Torque charts are nice but just remember that's at full throttle and maximum boost while consuming maximum fuel. Not something you encounter when towing down the highway. For me what's more important is the torque the engine can make while towing and making the towing the easiest while making the best fuel economy. This is very difficult to quantify except for the fuel economy performance. In my mind the Power Stroke is the leader in this category for the 2020 models and I suspect will continue to lead for the 2021 models. Who really cares if one truck or the other tows up the Ike 12 seconds faster or slower than the other ones. All three are not your grandfather's truck anymore. Buy what turns your crank and enjoy it. 12 seconds isn’t much but I think the 2020 Ram was about a mile behind the 2020 Powerstroke. It might not matter but it kind of put the Powerstroke in a league of its own. I think it would be nice to see the 2021 close the gap a bit. If we limit speed to the speed limit up the IKE, AND if we tow a more normal even large fifth wheel up the IKE, AND we say for example that would be 20,000 lbs for that large RV load but it’s not the 30,000+ lbs max load on TFLTrucks, I’m 95%positive all the big three diesel trucks make it up the IKE within seconds of each other. This is a non issue for RVers now except for bragging rights like my truck is more powerful than yours.
MikeRP 01/01/21 12:14pm Tow Vehicles
RE: 2021 Cummins 1075 lbft peak torque at 1356 rpm

Well heck yeah, are you? I think Cummins can play hopscotch with Ford on this platform till around 1250 ft-lbs or maybe even 1300 ft-lbs of torque. They probably can go higher w a different tranny.
MikeRP 12/29/20 05:34pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Confirmed 2021 RAM Cummins no CP4.2

Ram has employee pricing offered to the public right now. Plus a few other incentives adds up to $10,000 plus off the sticker even on Laramie models. Also it seems the 4th gens like mine are in big demand. Crazy world.
MikeRP 12/24/20 08:19pm Tow Vehicles
RE: determining pay load capacity

My guess is the real payload on that truck will be over 4000 lbs since it’s a gasser. A lot of folks are proponents of staying w the GVWR on the fifth wheel. Well many of the fifth wheels I’ve looked at can carry nearly two tons of cargo. If you are full timing, even then, 2 tons is a lot of stuff. Why carry that much? Most of it you won’t use. For instance my Creek is 12800 lbs dry(2200 lbs pin),16,200 GVWR. So 3400 lbs of junk if you Max it out. We run about 14,500 lbs which is a reasonable 1700 lbs of junk. I think you will be able to pull 12-13000 lbs comfortably w the 6.2l. So look at fifth wheel with a lower pin weight dry. Think about it: My Creek is 2200 dry. Another camper I looked at was 2500 dry. That’s 300lbs. Doesn’t seem like much difference right? But 300 lbs on the pin is 1500 lbs in the front of the fifth wheel acting on the pin @20%. That’s my whole cargo almost. Also if you start getting too much weight on the pin. Some fivers have a fresh water tank on a position that if you fill it up, it will counter act some of the pin weight. That’s a very capable truck, combine it with some thought on purchase and load it properly and you’ll be fine.
MikeRP 12/24/20 08:06pm Tow Vehicles
RE: 2021 Ram 3500 H.O.

So how much does a new CP3 cost? Just ballpark w labor?
MikeRP 12/22/20 01:35am Tow Vehicles
RE: 2021 Ram 3500 H.O.

I think, but not sure and I didn’t ask him, but PD Diesel over on YouTube substituted a CP3 in a truck he was experiencing issues with and has experienced no issues. I got the impression that he didn’t do any changes. Just substituted the CP3 for the CP4.2. I don’t have time to run it down right now but I’m sure one of you can ask him.
MikeRP 12/15/20 12:47pm Tow Vehicles
RE: 2021 Ram 3500 H.O.

Well there’s no doubt that if you go into limp mode or stall you’ll need to get on the brake and off the side of the road.
MikeRP 12/12/20 06:04pm Tow Vehicles
RE: 2021 Ram 3500 H.O.

Well 16k is no joke of a load and combined w high altitude, and high temps, I’m sure they all are stressed but really all three trucks can handle that weight no problem and frankly if it takes me 15 min to haul up over the Ike pass, I don’t care. I’m not going to do that very often. I’m 60 and have only done it twice. But I agree with what you are saying. As far as engine cooling, its way too difficult to determine a large cooling system in a Ford = a significant edge. Or one piece of evidence that suggests that the cooling fan came on faster or not. And I love Ford. But I’m still a Cummins fanboy and I believe over 500,000 miles the Ram will be cheaper to operate and generally easier to repair in large part because of the Cummins. I mean what’s your opinion about the Cummins that’s 370/850? I’m thinking with 4.10’s that combo will be just awesome for loads under 25k. Jfyi I would be proud to own a Ford or GM product. Peace
MikeRP 12/12/20 05:13pm Tow Vehicles
RE: 2021 Ram 3500 H.O.

I’ve never heard Detroit is more reliable than Cummins. Cummins has wide application across all industries because they have built a reputation for flexibility and long term reliability. I know CAT has been very reliable and we’ve used those in generators also going on 25 years. Lots of competition in those sectors from MTU, Koehler, Generac, Cummins, Volvo, Wartisila and many others in the small to large diesel generator business. I love Cummins flexibility in those markets and they are very competitive in the industrial market and that makes them very competitive in the utility market. All that means to me is that Cummins has a vested interest to stay competitive w Ford and Duramax in power and reliability And they have the long term resources to make sure Ram is successful. I do see a small generator with the blue oval on it at Home Depot! Live and learn. And here I just bought a predator. Mike
MikeRP 12/12/20 09:00am Tow Vehicles
RE: 2021 Ram 3500 H.O.

Question for all of you. Since this is an RV forum, how many of us will ever haul 30,000 lbs up to the IKE tunnel? I think that all three, (Ford, GM, or Ram) could tow 22,000 lbs up the IKE at nearly identical times if traffic and acceleration were the same and the speed limit was adhered to during the test. Time of day maybe an issue on a warm day. I would bet Cummins standard engine w the Ram tranny would be right in the mix also. The point is probably the percentage of RVers hauling 22,000 lbs is less than 10% and the percentage hauling 30,000 is almost non existent. The other thing that would be interesting to know on the tests that if the cruise control was set on 60 mph would the times have been different? Another thing, you look at Motorhomes using the 6.7 L Cummins w an Allison, they play this game w HP and tranny size. It always upsets me. For $170,000 you get 300 Hp, for $200,000 you get maybe 340 Hp right up to about 380 Hp for $ 300,000. But you buy a Ram pickup and get 400 hp for $80,000. That’s why I own a fifth wheel right now. Thursday I rode in a 2013 Chevy LT DRW. Nice truck. Quiet and the Allison acts way different than the Aisin. GM is not playing this rating game, wonder why? Without Cummins, Ram would have been out of business years ago. All of them are great trucks today, its the best for RVers.
MikeRP 12/12/20 01:53am Tow Vehicles
RE: Towing Safety Tech

The technology is offered in all 2020 HD trucks made by Ford and Ram. I can’t tell if one is better than the other. I don’t know if GM is going to offer the tech in it’s vehicles. Another truck I was seriously considering sold this morning. I don’t know what’s going on but these trucks are selling like hot cakes. I may wait till next year and hope the supply chain causes some bigger rebates.
MikeRP 10/31/20 12:44pm Tow Vehicles
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