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RE: No more full size cars from GM
What is better? A car with padded bumpers, or a car with a driver or other avoidance system that does not hit pedestrians?
Or what's better a car that has an angular bumper that would tend to flip you up and over or a flat "wall that would knock you down and then run over you?
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NJRVer
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12/11/19 06:16am |
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RE: No more full size cars from GM
Physically larger engines need physically larger hoods to cover them?
Well, in line 6 needs more hood length.
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NJRVer
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12/11/19 06:14am |
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RE: No more full size cars from GM
When you look vehicles today compared with what was on the market in the '60's and 70's, todays vehicles are huge.
Growing up we used to think of a Pontiac Bonneville as an absolute monstrosity.
Now park one next to Lexus and the Pontiac looks small in comparison.
:h The Bonneville was 7 inches longer and 7 inches wider with a foot longer wheelbase and an engine more than twice the size.
Hardly amounts to much difference 7" longer.
Engine size has nothing to do with it.
A lot of todays vehicles can't fit in a garage from the '60's or 70's.
Give it up bud. The big boats of the 50s, 60s, 70s-90s are every bit as big or bigger physically than today’s big cars. And most of the engines were bigger too.
Not sure what you’re getting it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_ptUrQOMPs
Not sure why you keep referring to engine size.
Those old engines were giant boat anchors when you compare their size and weight to HP out put.
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NJRVer
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12/10/19 07:37pm |
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RE: No more full size cars from GM
When you look vehicles today compared with what was on the market in the '60's and 70's, todays vehicles are huge.
Growing up we used to think of a Pontiac Bonneville as an absolute monstrosity.
Now park one next to Lexus and the Pontiac looks small in comparison.
:h The Bonneville was 7 inches longer and 7 inches wider with a foot longer wheelbase and an engine more than twice the size.
Hardly amounts to much difference 7" longer.
Engine size has nothing to do with it.
A lot of todays vehicles can't fit in a garage from the '60's or 70's.
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NJRVer
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12/09/19 09:20pm |
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RE: Why Tesla's are bad at towing!
Obama didn't put troops in Syria to protect oil. Trump flat out said he was protecting the oil.
Obama put them there to protect people.
He wasn't protecting the oil, he was keeping it from the enemies hands that was using to fund their war.
I'm not protecting my RV from being stolen, I'm just keeping it out of thieve's hands so they can't sell it.
ROFLMAO!
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NJRVer
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12/09/19 06:43pm |
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RE: Why Tesla's are bad at towing!
NJRVer wrote:
Obama didn't put troops in Syria to protect oil. Trump flat out said he was protecting the oil.
Obama put them there to protect people.
Trump put troops in to protect the oil, so ISIS couldn’t get the oil to fund their terrorism.
Get the facts straight.
Apparently you can't read.
Me: Trump flat out said he was protecting the oil
You: Trump put troops in to protect the oil
So what "facts" did I not get "straight" ?
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NJRVer
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12/09/19 06:41pm |
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RE: Why Tesla's are bad at towing!
What taxes are marked to have the military deployed around the globe to keep oil flowing. Why does this continue when we import so little oil?
Because it was a false assumption that we keep the military around the to keep oil flowing. It was just propaganda used by certain people to pander to political sides. As you say, we import little oil now, but our military is still involved in these places so the assumption that it is for oil is invalid. Although it is kind of funny that a certain political party president can attack a region for a certain reason and not one word is said about lying or it being for oil. However, if the opposite political party did it less than five years later using the same exact reason, all of the sudden they are lying and doing it for oil.
What taxes are charged to clean up the oil spills and clean the air from petrol?
The companies that spill the oil are mainly the ones who are forced to pay for the clean up. As far as air goes, everyone who is buying a gas vehicle is paying for its better emissions when they buy it.
As far as cleaning the air goes, there are companies such as Carbon Engineering that have the backing of people like Bill Gates that are working to pull carbon from the air and make fuel out of it. They have stated that they could even pull more carbon than what is being put into the air by the fuel. However, they will need ICE vehicles around to buy the fuel so it can pay for the infrastructure. Without ICE, they would likely not have enough money to reverse the amount of carbon in the air.
Better tell Trump to get the ships out of the Strait of Hormuz and not worry about protecting the oil in Syria then.
So is that why Obama sent troops to Syria in 2015 and also why the dems chastised Trump for taking them out of Syria earlier this year? Let me guess, when the left does it is for humanitarian reasons, but when the right does it then it is for oil. Just like when Clinton ordered the military to attack Iraq in November of 1998 for reasons of weapons of mass destruction and not one person cried foul. Yet when Bush did the same for the exact same reason less than 5 years later he was a liar that was doing it for oil. Sounds legit.
Obama didn't put troops in Syria to protect oil. Trump flat out said he was protecting the oil.
Obama put them there to protect people.
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NJRVer
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12/09/19 03:58pm |
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RE: Tesla Cybertruck
I'm trying to figure out how lying Elon can drive an "illegal" vehicle on the public highways?
I think the thing should be impounded next time this thing is found on a public highway.
Here in NJ we "Manufacturer" tags.
Basically lets a manufacturer drive anything on the road.
I'm sure CA and MI being big car states, have something similar.
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NJRVer
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12/09/19 03:52pm |
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RE: Tesla Cybertruck
Semi is still slated for production. Has not been cancelled.
Tesla is accepting reservations on it's website and the reporter who photographed it charging and another loaded and most likely on test run is not delusional.
Just out of curiosity. When and where? Is this the same recycled pic from a year ago. I have not seen any evidence of testing from the recent past.
I'm sure Elon is dying to show you one should you plant your b@tt in the steps of Tesla factory in Fremont just to allay your skepticism and convince you to make your own reservation.
:h I think you have gone of the rails. What does anything in that response have to do with testing? They are taking laps in a factory simulating actual road conditions, reliability and range? allegedly the semi is scheduled for launch in the very near future but no testing. It is a legitimate question with respect to the launch timeline.
I’m not up on the actual projected timeline but I think it was pushed to end 2020 for limited production. Battery capacity is probably the big hold up. Model Y production now moved up to end first quarter. Model 3 European demand still strong. Grid Superpack and power wall demand growing. Giga one isn’t at max production yet but it is getting close. I’m not sure what the answer is. They also had to send packs to Giga 3 in Shanghai for the first few thousand MIC model 3’s. But they will use those up quick now as they received their sales permit from the Chinese goverment on Friday. They are building about 110 cars per shift right now in China but will be adding a second shift soon and then a third. They’ll go thru the stored up packs quick. Then they will be building packs right in Giga three. Bottom line there is just not enough battery capacity to cover a large amount of Semis right now. You can build 7 or 10 model 3’s with the cells from one semi.
There are videos of the semi in the wild on YouTube.
Tesla is a victim of their own success. So much demand they can't keep their lines supplied with all the components.
It would be like Ram having a surge in demand for diesels and Cummins not being able to supply them, which in turn then hurts Ram sales.
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NJRVer
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12/08/19 07:43pm |
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RE: Why Tesla's are bad at towing!
Because they are taxing me to fund a rebate for you to buy one...you want to buy one, fine...if the company survives, great...but when you make me pay for it, I get say.Really? What line on your 1040 relates to the EV surcharge?
BTW any tax credit to Tesla Buyers ENDS December 31, 2019.
Others beat me to it.
Even with the tax credit coming to an end (tesla is fighting to change and extend it)...in most areas, you pay no where near the fuel tax, which is intended to pay for the roads you drive on. There has been some move to increase registration fees but so far, it's not nearly as much as the gas tax collected.
So how much does a Tesla wear out and degrade the roads?
Seriously? Why would it be any different than any other vehicle the same weight?
Point being that most roads are designed for heavy truck traffic. The extra costs for building roads are due to truck traffic.
If it wasn't for the heavy truck traffic roads would last a lot longer.
So EV's and really any autos impact on road degradation is minimal.
The exception being maybe a local road in a housing subdivision that wasn't designed to carry massive weights to begin with.
That is why you will see posted weight limits on local roads.
Just about everything you use in life comes by truck. How do you propose to pay for roads once everyone is using EV's and no longer paying fuel taxes? Right now EV's owners are getting a free ride. That can't continue forever.
Majority of road degradation comes from heavy trucks so it only makes sense they pay to rebuild them.
Somebody's Equinox or Escape isn't tearing up the highways.
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NJRVer
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12/08/19 07:32pm |
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RE: Why Tesla's are bad at towing!
What taxes are marked to have the military deployed around the globe to keep oil flowing. Why does this continue when we import so little oil?
Because it was a false assumption that we keep the military around the to keep oil flowing. It was just propaganda used by certain people to pander to political sides. As you say, we import little oil now, but our military is still involved in these places so the assumption that it is for oil is invalid. Although it is kind of funny that a certain political party president can attack a region for a certain reason and not one word is said about lying or it being for oil. However, if the opposite political party did it less than five years later using the same exact reason, all of the sudden they are lying and doing it for oil.
What taxes are charged to clean up the oil spills and clean the air from petrol?
The companies that spill the oil are mainly the ones who are forced to pay for the clean up. As far as air goes, everyone who is buying a gas vehicle is paying for its better emissions when they buy it.
As far as cleaning the air goes, there are companies such as Carbon Engineering that have the backing of people like Bill Gates that are working to pull carbon from the air and make fuel out of it. They have stated that they could even pull more carbon than what is being put into the air by the fuel. However, they will need ICE vehicles around to buy the fuel so it can pay for the infrastructure. Without ICE, they would likely not have enough money to reverse the amount of carbon in the air.
Better tell Trump to get the ships out of the Strait of Hormuz and not worry about protecting the oil in Syria then.
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NJRVer
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12/08/19 03:24pm |
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RE: Why Tesla's are bad at towing!
Because they are taxing me to fund a rebate for you to buy one...you want to buy one, fine...if the company survives, great...but when you make me pay for it, I get say.Really? What line on your 1040 relates to the EV surcharge?
BTW any tax credit to Tesla Buyers ENDS December 31, 2019.
The bottom line where the total tax is listed is where the hogs come to the trough.
Hopefully the rebates come to an end and then taxes are collected to fund the highways.Yes, they get rebates, often get cheaper plates(depends on state) do not pay highway use taxes, and get to use the carpool lanes anytime.
As usual, those at the trough do not see anything wrong with this.
It is real easy to be liberal with other peoples money.
Sure is, just ask the Defense Dept.
I only speakn English.
The defense dept. sees to it that I do not have to learn another language.
I like our defense dept. You should too.
Never said I didn't.
What's the defense dept. have to do with speaking English?
They actually need a lot more people who speak other languages.
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NJRVer
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12/08/19 03:22pm |
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RE: No more full size cars from GM
When you look vehicles today compared with what was on the market in the '60's and 70's, todays vehicles are huge.
Growing up we used to think of a Pontiac Bonneville as an absolute monstrosity.
Now park one next to Lexus and the Pontiac looks small in comparison.
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NJRVer
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12/08/19 09:07am |
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RE: Why Tesla's are bad at towing!
Because they are taxing me to fund a rebate for you to buy one...you want to buy one, fine...if the company survives, great...but when you make me pay for it, I get say.Really? What line on your 1040 relates to the EV surcharge?
BTW any tax credit to Tesla Buyers ENDS December 31, 2019.
Others beat me to it.
Even with the tax credit coming to an end (tesla is fighting to change and extend it)...in most areas, you pay no where near the fuel tax, which is intended to pay for the roads you drive on. There has been some move to increase registration fees but so far, it's not nearly as much as the gas tax collected.
So how much does a Tesla wear out and degrade the roads?
Seriously? Why would it be any different than any other vehicle the same weight?
Point being that most roads are designed for heavy truck traffic. The extra costs for building roads are due to truck traffic.
If it wasn't for the heavy truck traffic roads would last a lot longer.
So EV's and really any autos impact on road degradation is minimal.
The exception being maybe a local road in a housing subdivision that wasn't designed to carry massive weights to begin with.
That is why you will see posted weight limits on local roads.
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NJRVer
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12/08/19 08:56am |
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RE: Why Tesla's are bad at towing!
Because they are taxing me to fund a rebate for you to buy one...you want to buy one, fine...if the company survives, great...but when you make me pay for it, I get say.Really? What line on your 1040 relates to the EV surcharge?
BTW any tax credit to Tesla Buyers ENDS December 31, 2019.
Others beat me to it.
Even with the tax credit coming to an end (tesla is fighting to change and extend it)...in most areas, you pay no where near the fuel tax, which is intended to pay for the roads you drive on. There has been some move to increase registration fees but so far, it's not nearly as much as the gas tax collected.
So how much does a Tesla wear out and degrade the roads?
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NJRVer
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12/08/19 06:58am |
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RE: Why Tesla's are bad at towing!
Because they are taxing me to fund a rebate for you to buy one...you want to buy one, fine...if the company survives, great...but when you make me pay for it, I get say.Really? What line on your 1040 relates to the EV surcharge?
BTW any tax credit to Tesla Buyers ENDS December 31, 2019.
The bottom line where the total tax is listed is where the hogs come to the trough.
Hopefully the rebates come to an end and then taxes are collected to fund the highways.Yes, they get rebates, often get cheaper plates(depends on state) do not pay highway use taxes, and get to use the carpool lanes anytime.
As usual, those at the trough do not see anything wrong with this.
It is real easy to be liberal with other peoples money.
Sure is, just ask the Defense Dept.
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NJRVer
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12/08/19 06:57am |
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RE: Why Tesla's are bad at towing!
Tesla said they have a goal of installing solar panels on the roof.
Yeah!!! If can now adds 50ft of range per day.
I'm exaggerating a bit but run the calculations on how much power you can generate given the surface area and angle to the sun available. It's simply not a viable solution to anything.
More in terms of the solar roof panel powers accessories in the car, leaving the batteries strictly for the motor.
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NJRVer
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12/06/19 05:24am |
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RE: Why Tesla's are bad at towing!
OK there are roughly 50,000 miles of interstate. I'm sure you'd want to add in all those miles of state thruways and such so lets call the total 70,000 miles. These are all multi-lane so let make a guess and call them 6 lanes, 3 each way, on average. Those will be more expensive to electrify so lets call that $1,000,000 a mile which works out to $70,000,000,000. Who is going to pay for that? I vote electric car owners should foot the bill. Plus the O&M costs.
And how many $trillions have we flushed down the toilet by footing the bill for the military to provide private security for the oil companies.
I vote the oil companies pay for security out of their profits.
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NJRVer
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12/05/19 03:18pm |
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RE: Tesla Cybertruck
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I have no idea what the industry is going. But large fifth wheels are a small part of the RV industry where we live. No idea anywhere else. Most people want to go weekend camping at the local lakes where we live. Most common truck is an F150 or equivalent.Making sweeping statements on what direction the industry is headed by basing your experience on local conditions, is probably not very accurate.
Probably sticking the acronym "IMO" in front of statements like "Fifth wheels are not near as common as they used to be with their biggest audience still being old boomers. That market will continually decline over the next ten years." would be a good idea.
That would let everyone know that it's not a fact-based statement, but only your opinion.
Not hard to find production of RV's is down.
That doesn't even take into account that RV "sales" posted by the industry are the "sales" made to the dealers where they then sit on the lot waiting for a true "sale" to an actual consumer.
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NJRVer
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12/04/19 08:11pm |
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RE: Tesla Cybertruck
Can't see myself dumping a half yard of sand, gravel or bark mulch in the back of one of those things. Might have a great cool factor but not to very practical as a pickup. Pickups look like they do and have flat bed rails for a reason.
Half a yard?
That's only 3'x3'x18".
Could fit that in a lot of car trunks. Not saying the springs would hold though.
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NJRVer
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11/27/19 05:41pm |
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