Contact Randall at Host for an option sheet with MSRP prices. We are getting 3x160w solar, Fantastic Fan instead of Heki, Full wall cab over wardrobe, Prewire only for TV's and some additional modifications to the umbilical connections.
No one other than Lance is using cab over struts - I'm not sure any of the structures from other manufacturers were designed for an underside load. The Host camper height is 9.5' if you include the AC - Do you want store or carry items up that high on the roof? Rearview camera is a $900 MSRP option.
Your F350 will be over GVWR and close to rear axle capacity with the Mammoth. If you also plan to tow behind your setup, you need a bigger truck. I suggest skipping the F450/4500 and going to a F550/5500.
Randal can say what he wants, Bedlam has researched this camper thoroughly and when he tells you that a 550/5500 is what you need to carry this camper safety and comfortably you should listen to him and not your pocketbook.
No offense but Bedlam can say what he wants. I will listen to the guy that works at the factory. Maybe Bedlams does weigh 6k. But everybody packs differently and gets diff options. Either way I didn't expect this kind of anger and hostility, I have better things to do and I wouldn't want to be responsible for someone getting upset and having a stroke.
Once again, my public education is failing me. I can't read anything in this that is angry or hostile. Dammit, I miss all the good stuff.
Or perhaps I'm just not sensitive enough. Better tighten up the panties...
Bedlam isn't a salesman... that's the difference, I believe, that was being emphasized. Just good, useful, food for thought. Based on experience and reality.
Not winter sports, two nights or more, yes, the camper comes off.
Like backing a trailer..a little practice goes along way. I'm with some of the others here; it's off and blocked in about 10-15 min. Actually loads back on quicker most of the time, as we're not dealing with 'leveling'.
There aren't any AF dealers in Seattle. THey are way north, in Everett, and way south, in Tacoma.
Ha, the major airport is Seattle. For the record, you seem to think "way" is less than 45 minutes drive. Most of us think that's close.
lmao.. beat me to it. Been to LA recently? Everything here is close.
I have never owned a Ford or GM diesel. But, I have become an expert on both of them through the internet.
I an just jesting with the BS in my first paragraph. When you read several of the post, they too are just BS. I would ask anyone reading this thread to ask someone that makes a post about a given brand of truck if they have ever owned one, especially if they are posting negatives. It has been my experience that most people will be very defensive with what they have. Some people are so biased, they have only owned one brand of truck.
About a week ago, I realized from experience that ride and load capacity wise there are so many factors to consider.
I have two trucks:
A 1996 2500 2WD SRW Extended Cab long bed diesel. I added one lief to the spring pack, it has no overloads other than the bottom, but does have airbags and 19.5 tires.
My second truck is a 2004 3500 4WD DRW Dodge diesel Quad Cab. The '04 has stock suspension which includes upper and lower overload springs, and stock tires.
Empty, the '96 rides like a covered wagon, and the '04 rides like one of my previous Cadillacs. This is not an exaggeration. In reading the posts through the years, I would have thought the 3500 would have given the rough ride.
Last week, I rode in a 2016 Ram 3500 SRW 4WD short bed Mega Cab. It had only the lower overloads and stock tires. The main leaf pack looked the same as my '04, with the exception the lower leaf appeared engaged with no load in the bed. The ride was as bad as my '96, maybe even rougher. I have rode in a 2004 3500 4WD DRW quad(?) cab GMC completely stock. It rode about the same as my '04.
I am making this post to point out that you can only say how smooth a truck of any size or manufacture rides if you have ridden in it. You can speak in very general terms, but ... There are simply too many factors to consider to generalize.
You're not biased enough to be worth reading....lol.
Always get a kick out of these threads. Someone looking for the 'perfect' truck and everyone jumping in with the answers based on....limited experience.
Until this past year, we've ran Chev, Dodge and Fords, both gas and oil runners. I of course have opinions,thoughts,experiences; dare I say more than most. More miles driven, more repairs performed and paid for, more attention paid to the bottom line and reality and not being "defensive" about a choice.
They all work. Even the "oh my God, stay away from..." seem to get down the road ok. Buying used is a **** shoot more to do with the previous owner than the actual rig.
I think the advice mkirsch gives is great; don't get mired in details. Find something you like and see if it has the quality's that are important to you. They are not all the same, but the details will suffocate you.
We're down to 5 light/med duty trucks (under 35k). I'd tell you all the truth, but it wouldn't mean anything. It's the internet after all.....
bb_94401..... what a fantastic post.
The best and worst parts of forums; digging through all the information and trying to figure out what blowhards are spouting vs facts from those knowledgeable in their subject.
Oh, and little life lessons in common sense wisdom. Lot's of that.
Priorities.. again, a well articulated post with levity and reality slid in. Thanks.
Reason #42 why I hate balls..
No questions; it's latched or it's not.
Glad it worked out well for you...
What's all that dirty white stuff on the trailer tongue by the jack?
Are you serious...?
Oh, never mind, I see you're from Tennessee ..... my bad.
It's S N O W..
Your safety chain hooks are hooked up wrong.Should hook up from bottom so if tr. comes loose hook will rotate into slot.Try it and you will see how it works.(have done some heavy rigging in years gone by)
Good call. We train the guys to hook back and up also. And we've found that there are less chains bouncing out/coming unhooked (even with 'safety latches').
Reason #42 why I hate balls..
No questions; it's latched or it's not.
Glad it worked out well for you...
Nothing is foolproof. I had a driver hitch up a twelve ton trailer behind one of our tandem dump trucks with the pintle hitch upside down. All that kept it on was the flimsy little safety catch. He used the jack to raise the trailer up and into the hitch from the bottom side.
^^^ lol, boy is that a true statement. I had a guy argue with me once that the pintle on the transfer truck was upside down. He couldn't wrap his mind around how it worked.
What is that contraption? I know what a pintle hitch is but that looks sketchy at best!
^^^it's a dirty, well used, WD hitch. Should I paint it or what? I sure don't want anything sketchy following me around...
Does anyone know where there's a landfill in WA state that will take a camper? I once went to great effort to crush one into pieces and take it to the local transfer station and had a very hard time getting them to accept it.
The other potential issue is I have no title for it.
The one I want to dump is one I bought in 1999, the owner was somewhat of an aquaintance so I disobeyed Rule Number One and took it with his word that he'd get the title to me. Well it's 17 years later and I'm still waiting!
If I can't properly dispose of it, I could always just abandon it and let the consequences fall on him, the last known registered owner. I'm trying to be nice, but...
Rabanco/Republic (whatever they call themselves this month).
3rd/Lander.. boats, RV's, no problem.
after reading thru this thread, I wonder if those who say he's an old man, just forgetaboutit would actually say the same thing if it happened to their RV.
I sure the hell would let it go. What's your point in punishing the "old man"?
There is no point.. that's the point that some just don't get.
What if... What if..... What if....... Seriously, what if he didn't have a good neighbor that he liked? What if it was him..his dad... his grandfather.... you? Be thankful some of you don't live in a glass house.
It's a material possession....
BTW: RC, we have run across dry casinos in ND, but our camper has not run dry (even when we don't pull the sag wagon with us). Bend has 22 micro breweries and I don't think we'll have time to visit all of them.
You the man.... planning ahead and being prepared. Sign of true wisdom....... :p
OK, I get it, it's just me. But I read these threads (they come up fairly often) and I just don't understand some of the thinking.
What is the big deal about throwing on a set of cables or chains? (skip the arguments about which is better, etc.. I carry both and they both have their place in life). Face it, very few get "off road"...which means you're usually on a plowed, slick surface (we're talking western WA/OR here it appears). I get it; anyone can drive in dry stuff...or should be able to. So most all terrain/all season tires will be a good start. But when it's slippery...and it's not hard to figure out when it is, I have to ask....what goes through one's mind? All of a sudden everyone 'else' is an idiot and can't drive, but...?
Anyhow, what's the hangup?? It's about 10 min for us to throw two sets, another 5 or 10 to throw on a drag set. You're driving a 20, 40, 60, or more thousand dollar rig, with a 10, 20, 40, or more thousand dollar camper, maybe towing a trailer worth..??? filled with stuff worth..??
Which brings me to the other question..
What's the hangup with drag chains? Getting going is only half the problem. If you go up a hill, chances are you're going to go down. And down is more of a problem than up for sure. Yet, I read here, listen to folks often that just poo-poo the idea. What's keeping you out of the ditch when you're off camber, trying to stop and the trailer can't track? Seriously, think about it. It doesn't have to be "that bad"... just another day with snow.
Funniest part of some of these threads is all the answers from folks, all the wisdom and advice, followed by...."I don't actually have much experience in this...."
Just asking.. cracks me up sometimes, but hey, makes great reading.
Spend the winter in the mountains.. with trailer.
Have CDL and drive 105k rigs...still. Retired LEO. Past DOT experience.
So with all that, take all this with a grain of salt. It is the internet of course.
True story on the 10k/chains required. Reality is, WSP does not enforce it on RV rigs. Note all the trailers and p/u's heading over in 4x with no iron strapped on when 'chains required'. I speak with a bit of experience on this. Still have a few friends that work/worked the passes.
Duals...? don't bother with the doubles. PITA, not required, and, did I say they are a PITA? Cables or chains both work.
I do carry drag chains for the trailer. Getting going isn't the problem... having a trailer pass you while stopping is the problem. It makes a bad day worse.
Happy Labor Day all.. NOW, it's time to go camping.
In this case you've just made an old man's life miserable for a momentary lapse of judgement which did limited harm.
You can't send a person up the river for something they may or may not do in the future, regardless of their age.
Who is sending anyone up the river? :h
I think the implication of your comment "this time..." leads some to believe that you mean next time it might be worse.
I think his comment was well thought out and stated. Was food for thought about your comment, nothing more.