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RE: The Cummins soon to take on the Ike

I am not sure about the heavy equipment trailer having that much more wind drag than the horse trailer. Wind will go through the back section on that horse trailer and hit that back door causing a significant amount of resistance. I know it makes a huge difference with similar cattle trailers of having a open gate back door versus a having a tarp covering the back doors. Not saying either trailer has more or less wind resistance because I don't have all the data, but that close back door horse trailer is probably creating more wind resistance than some think.
ShinerBock 02/19/20 09:53am Tow Vehicles
RE: CP4 bypass kit

While the newly designed CP4 pumps that go onto the 2015+ trucks appear to be more reliable, you are SOL on the 2011-2015 trucks in regards to Ford doing anything. The bypass kits do not seem to be that common on this site because most here seem to think that their brand makes a perfect truck and modifying it is heresy. Outside of these forums in the diesel modding world, these kits are very common. My brother was going to do it on his 2012 F350 before he decided to trade it in on a 2014 Ram 2500. Since you’re bashing the owners of their perceived perfect truck why are your advertising your brother trading a truck for a 2014 Ram. Sounds like your brand marketing again! Awe, did someone get their feewings hurt because they can't handle the truth. Negative Ghost Rider.... Just reporting a trend. Trend? I think you are seeing things. The very same day I posted this, I also posted a positive about Ford having manual mode on their transmissions in another thread and how I disliked that Ram does not have that. There is no trend. I only post what I/others experience or what I like/dislike and that does not change based on a brand. Some of that may be for/against Ford and some may be for/against Ram. Just because I posted market share facts that surprised me in a recent meeting (and I thought would have surprised others here as well so I shared it) or the fact that my brother traded in his F350 for a Ram 2500 instead of this kit does not mean I am a "brand hustler".
ShinerBock 02/19/20 06:20am Tow Vehicles
RE: CP4 bypass kit

If you put the by pass kit on does it prevent a tow bill, tank removal, low pressure side flush and filter change? All 3 kits (2011 - 2020) online are $3300 plus $1500 fully refundable injector core charge. There is no core on the pump. (I am surprised they include 2020 in with 2017 - 2019, might be a mistake?) online price If someone wanted the work done at a Ford dealership Ford would have to provide the kit at the online price or the person could order it online and just have Ford provide the labor. I don't think I would have any preference for a Ford garage to perform the labor if the truck was off warranty. And, as others have said, if the truck is still under warranty putting the bypass kit on might give a reason for the manufacturer to not cover the repair. The 2020 is not a mistake on the new ones. We have sold a few in the past year for 2017+ trucks. They are selling some of those kits for less than my company, a Ford dealer group, can buy them from Ford. I would call and confirm that they are in fact the parts they should be.
ShinerBock 02/18/20 05:13pm Tow Vehicles
RE: CP4 bypass kit

For those not familiar with the situation: Bypass kit Exactly! The kit does not keep the CP4 pump from failing, it just keeps a $1k repair from becoming a $10k repair. This is why my brother was about to install the kit before he traded in his truck. His pump was showing signs of failure and he did not want a $10k repair bill like my cousin and another friend had in their PSD's. At the last minute he decided to just trade it in on a CTD. The complete repair kit is $3300 and the book time is 18 hours so I think that 10 -12 k number that we hear of is BS. More accurate would be to say it keeps a $1k repair from becoming a $6k repair. Repair kit EC3Z-9B246-B price varies greatly from the dealer to online stores. Then there is the factor whether your injectors and pump are still a good core or not which could increase the cost to $5k. In most cases, not all of the cores are good enough to return so you will be paying extra for that. Labor rates also vary at our several Ford dealerships depending on severity. You also have to add time for dropping the tank along with environmental fee for disposing the diesel. This cost varies depending on how much fuel was in the tank. You also have the cost of a fuel filter change(which does not come with the kit) and to flush the lines from the tank to engine. Add it all up along with tow charge and a 6-10% sales tax then you are very well sitting at or near $10k based on on the repair orders in our shops. Edit: The cost of the kit varies depending on year. EC3Z-9B246-B is from 2011-2014 and cost around $3,300 plus core FC3Z-9B246-B is from 2014-2016 and costs around $4,300 plus core Last year, my company has sold over 50 of the EC3Z-9B246-B and 5 of the FC3Z-9B246-B.
ShinerBock 02/18/20 01:35pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Duramax vs Power Stroke Fuel Economy Tow Test and Drag Race

It would be interesting to see the brake specific fuel consumption graphs for these engines. You'd expect the transmissions to shift according to fuel usage.At 1800 rpm these engines can produce over double the power that is needed to tow a typical 5ver down the highway. I'm surprised lower rpm wouldn't save a little fuel. A general rule is that higher cylinder pressure produces greater efficiency. If you're running higher rpm than is needed the engine is operating at a lower cylinder pressure than it could be. On flat ground under low load the fuel economy is better in 6th, but on hilly roads, a lot of wind resistance, or in other situations that put more load on the engine it is is not in my experiences. In 6th and under higher loads, it feels like the engine has to add more fuel/air to compensate for the lack of torque from a taller gear ratio and the lack of horsepower from being at a lower rpm. In 5th, it feels like it does not have to add that much fuel(fuel pressure is lower) and boost to do the same work. There is less load on the engine in 5th even though it is at a higher rpm. There is also the factor that EGT's are lower by about 200F as well.
ShinerBock 02/18/20 09:41am Tow Vehicles
RE: CP4 bypass kit

For those not familiar with the situation: Bypass kit Exactly! The kit does not keep the CP4 pump from failing, it just keeps a $1k repair from becoming a $10k repair. This is why my brother was about to install the kit before he traded in his truck. His pump was showing signs of failure and he did not want a $10k repair bill like my cousin and another friend had in their PSD's. At the last minute he decided to just trade it in on a CTD.
ShinerBock 02/18/20 09:06am Tow Vehicles
RE: Duramax vs Power Stroke Fuel Economy Tow Test and Drag Race

"I should have reworded that bnecause you can't actually shift manually in a Ram" Am I missing something? I can shift mine with the toggle on the shift column. No, you can actually shift manually in the Ford. I could start off in 2nd or 3rd if I wanted to. I could also force it to upshift as well by selecting the next gear. You can't do this in a Ram. You can only lock out gears meaning that you have to start out if 1st gear no matter what and you cannot force it to go to the next gear. Ford has a manual mode(M on the gear selector) and gear lockout while Ram just has gear lockout.
ShinerBock 02/18/20 07:57am Tow Vehicles
RE: Duramax vs Power Stroke Fuel Economy Tow Test and Drag Race

"I would bet that you would not want to start off in second gear." Did you notice I said "start in second while unloaded" ? Yes I noticed that and as I stated you would probably not care about that in the 68RFE because it has a taller first gear. Loaded, the Aisin is better at take off.
ShinerBock 02/18/20 07:54am Tow Vehicles
RE: Duramax vs Power Stroke Fuel Economy Tow Test and Drag Race

So I guess by locking out 6th and running 1800 rpm you gain a little responsiveness and have less gear hunting but it's going to cost something on fuel. Not exactly. I have tested it out multiple times towing my RV 160 miles down to the coast and other trailer like my cattle trailer. I did it 6th a few times and then in 5th. I averaged about 1-2 mpg better towing in 5th than I did 6th. I noticed on my gauges that the engine did not have to add as much fuel/air to make torque/power in 5th like it had to in 6th when going up hills. We also noticed the same when I worked for Cummins. The "sweet spot" for the engines best efficiency was not static and changed depending on load. Unloaded it was between 1,300 and 1,500 rpm and loaded it was between 1,800 and 2,100 rpm depending on load. This is why Cummins' PowerSpec application recommends these rpms when loaded for best efficiency out of the Cummins. Cummins PowerSpec
ShinerBock 02/18/20 07:44am Tow Vehicles
RE: CP4 bypass kit

While the newly designed CP4 pumps that go onto the 2015+ trucks appear to be more reliable, you are SOL on the 2011-2015 trucks in regards to Ford doing anything. The bypass kits do not seem to be that common on this site because most here seem to think that their brand makes a perfect truck and modifying it is heresy. Outside of these forums in the diesel modding world, these kits are very common. My brother was going to do it on his 2012 F350 before he decided to trade it in on a 2014 Ram 2500. Since you’re bashing the owners of their perceived perfect truck why are your advertising your brother trading a truck for a 2014 Ram. Sounds like your brand marketing again! Awe, did someone get their feewings hurt because they can't handle the truth.
ShinerBock 02/18/20 07:35am Tow Vehicles
RE: Duramax vs Power Stroke Fuel Economy Tow Test and Drag Race

"I think the 3.42 rear end on the GM might have had an effect on mpg here especially if they let the truck do all the shifting." But But, I thought the magical 10 speed was supposed to keep the engine in the perfect rpm??? This is not due to it being a 10-speed but rather the trans tuning. Shifting manually or having a shorter final gear would alleviate this. To be fair, I had to do the same in my 68RFE when it had stock trans tuning and so do my friends and family who have Aisin's so Ram's stock trans tuning is not perfect either. When do you manually shift a transmission with stock tuning? What are you trying to accomplish by manually shifting? I should have reworded that bnecause you can't actually shift manually in a Ram like you can in a Ford which is one thing I missed when I went from my F150 to my 2500 because there certain situations where it was helpful like starting the truck in second gear in slippery conditions. You only have the ability to lock out gears in the Ram and in this case I would lock out 6th to keep the truck from going into second over drive. Both 5th and 6th are overdrive gears on the 68RFE as it is with most 6 speed transmissions. With a 3.42 rear end and 34 inch tires, 6th gear puts me in a great rpm unloaded(1,500 @ 75 mph) and 5th puts me in in the prefect rpm loaded(1,800 @ 65 mph).
ShinerBock 02/18/20 07:04am Tow Vehicles
RE: Duramax vs Power Stroke Fuel Economy Tow Test and Drag Race

Dead flat no wind conditions towing 29k combined thru Salem, Oregon on I-5 I would get the exact same mileage in 6th at 62mph as 5th. Once getting farther South around Eugene where the road started getting into the small hills It would pop in and out of 5th. I compared that mileage to locking 5th and 5th was a bit better. I finally just locked out 6th towing at 62 and would have my rpm's at around 1,750 and it performed flawlessly dropping gears as needed. With the 68 I could drop a gear once rpm's started dropping trying to hold my speed on a steep grade. Sometimes it worked and sometimes it made no difference. With my 4.10's AISIN I tow in 6th same RPM as I did with the 68. I have tried dropping a gear once it starts loosing speed and it just stays where it needs to be and shifts as needed. It simply knows where to be. They both worked great towing heavy but the 3.42's needed the lower starting gears on a grade the AISIN gives. ONLY change to the AISIN I would like to see is the ability to lock out first and start in second while unloaded. This has more to do with your 4.10 gears than it does having an Aisin. I would wager that a 4.10 68RFE would be the same since they both have the same 6th gear ratio although the 68RFE has a better 5th gear than the Aisin. Also, since the 68RFE has a 3.23 first gear instead of the 3.75 on the Aisin, I would bet that you would not want to start off in second gear.
ShinerBock 02/18/20 06:33am Tow Vehicles
RE: CP4 bypass kit

While the newly designed CP4 pumps that go onto the 2015+ trucks appear to be more reliable, you are SOL on the 2011-2015 trucks in regards to Ford doing anything. The bypass kits do not seem to be that common on this site because most here seem to think that their brand makes a perfect truck and modifying it is heresy. Outside of these forums in the diesel modding world, these kits are very common. My brother was going to do it on his 2012 F350 before he decided to trade it in on a 2014 Ram 2500.
ShinerBock 02/18/20 06:25am Tow Vehicles
RE: Duramax vs Power Stroke Fuel Economy Tow Test and Drag Race

"I think the 3.42 rear end on the GM might have had an effect on mpg here especially if they let the truck do all the shifting." But But, I thought the magical 10 speed was supposed to keep the engine in the perfect rpm??? This is not due to it being a 10-speed but rather the trans tuning. Shifting manually or having a shorter final gear would alleviate this. To be fair, I had to do the same in my 68RFE when it had stock trans tuning and so do my friends and family who have Aisin's so Ram's stock trans tuning is not perfect either. I guess my 3.42 68RFE and 4.10 AISIN are the exception as they both have shifted and held gears as they should from solo to hauling 29-25k combined. Maybe cuz I ran the hell out of each right out of the box and ALWAYS run TH. It is not a factor of holding gears or capability. My 68RFE and the Aisin 3.42's can easily hold 6th and the computer will be happy to keep you there towing at 1,500 rpm. However, this may not put you at the best rpm for efficiency and you may be using more fuel and boost to compensate for the lack of gearing just like how you would have to put more force on a shorter lever than you would with a longer one. Both my friends/family who have Aisins and my 68RFE get better fuel mileage locking out 6th to keep the truck within the 1,800-2,100 rpm that Cummins recommends for the most efficient towing with the 6.7L. If you have a 4.10 gear, then locking out 6th may not be needed to get the best efficiency towing most loads because it will put you in these rpm ranges without it.
ShinerBock 02/17/20 01:19pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Duramax vs Power Stroke Fuel Economy Tow Test and Drag Race

"I think the 3.42 rear end on the GM might have had an effect on mpg here especially if they let the truck do all the shifting." But But, I thought the magical 10 speed was supposed to keep the engine in the perfect rpm??? This is not due to it being a 10-speed but rather the trans tuning. Shifting manually or having a shorter final gear would alleviate this. To be fair, I had to do the same in my 68RFE when it had stock trans tuning and so do my friends and family who have Aisin's so Ram's stock trans tuning is not perfect either.
ShinerBock 02/17/20 12:02pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Duramax vs Power Stroke Fuel Economy Tow Test and Drag Race

The problem with doing mileage tests over a short distance like this is that if during the test the Duramax happened to do a DPF regeneration and the Ford didn't the results are meaningless. I think it takes roughly a gallon of fuel to clean the DPF so on a run where only a few gallons of diesel is required the mileage result could be way off. I thought about that but if a truck did do a regen I think the mpg delta between these two trucks would have been greater. Plus towing this much weight there should have been passive regen working in their favor. I agree. Towing that much weight under that much load the truck should not have needed an active regen. I think the 3.42 rear end on the GM might have had an effect on mpg here especially if they let the truck do all the shifting. My 2014 Ram 2500 also has a 3.42 rear and and while it is great for mpg unloaded, it is not so great loaded IF I let the computer do the shifting allowing it to go into 6th. If I lockout 6th and to in 5th(which is still an overdrive gear) then that brings my rpms up to the Cummins recommended rpms of 1,800-2,100 for most efficient towing in the 6.7L. Allowing the the computer to shift into 6th putting me at 1,500 rpm decreases my fuel mileage by about 1-2 mpg depending on the terrain.
ShinerBock 02/17/20 08:09am Tow Vehicles
RE: Duramax vs Power Stroke Fuel Economy Tow Test and Drag Race

Why does FCA not want to test at the same time as ford and Gm? chevman I don't think it is a matter of Ram not wanting to test as the same time as it is just getting a truck scheduled at the same time. Several years ago these guys did a few videos on what it takes to get these loaner test vehicles and it is a long and arduous process. It is not something you can just phone up someone and say you want a truck to test and it is done. These vehicles are shared by regions and you have to wait until the previous tester is done with it.
ShinerBock 02/16/20 07:22am Tow Vehicles
RE: Duramax vs Power Stroke Fuel Economy Tow Test and Drag Race

Nice job by the Ford. Still slow and a fuel hog compared to mine, but good job for a stock truck.
ShinerBock 02/15/20 09:25am Tow Vehicles
RE: The Cummins soon to take on the Ike

I still grin ear to ear with 900 lb-ft of torque My grin misses one ear at 865tq. Tune it at you will easily get well over 1,000 lb-ft at the wheels. I am sitting at around 1,100 lb-ft at the wheels. Although the non-tunable TCM of the Aisin will not like the added power too much compared to the 68RFE that has a tunable TCM.
ShinerBock 02/15/20 03:46am Tow Vehicles
RE: 2020 Ford 7.3L Ike Gauntlet

As I said before, I don't care about what they do elsewhere. If you want to start a thread about whether other countries use LPG or CNG then feel free to start a thread about it. This one is about an American 7.3L F250 going up the ike.
ShinerBock 02/12/20 05:07pm Tow Vehicles
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