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RE: new style toyhauler, not for everyone

you are correct ..... stw does not provide enough info and i stated that when i called him. i agree that tank heaters are a joke. they are only for if it might dip down to 30* for a few hrs overnight. i cannot see why they couldn't drop a pvc tube down to the batts for solar install......that denial says a lot about that manufacturer to myself!!
dsrace 05/23/20 06:43am Toy Haulers
RE: new style toyhauler, not for everyone

I would really like to replace my bumper pull toy hauler with a 40' fifth wheel toy hauler from ATC. The all aluminum construction makes for a huge CCC. It also makes for a huge price tag that my wife already vetoed. :( atc makes some very strong units. they are high priced for sure and look a bit sterile inside , imo. have you looked at the sundowner, lakota or merhow toyhauler models? what about this one? https://www.shadowtrailerworld.com/store/p3578/2019_STW_Enclosed_Toy_Hauler_With_14%E2%80%99_Luxury_LQ_85300-90-GN-TOY-LQ_SKU_LQ73910.html
dsrace 05/21/20 05:12pm Toy Haulers
RE: new style toyhauler, not for everyone

There's a new one by Momentum 29go genesis supreme released the overnighter late 2018. so we know where momentum came up with the design lol they did a nice job overall. so i looked up the specs..... only 11' of cargo floor! once again they really missed the mark. 11' doesn't work for sand rails, jeeps or 1000cc turbo sxs's! the overnighter has 14'6" of floor for cargo and lots of jeep guys have been buying them to haul the jeeps. so it's 34'11" long vs 31'6" overnighter. it's 12'4" tall vs 11' on the overnighter. it's 7900 lbs vs 5000 lbs and best of all it's $50k!!!!!! i paid $20k out the door and i thought that was a little over priced! now if grand design would delete the happijac bed, swap the bunk beds out for a queen bed and delete the closet on the outside, move the bathroom to the nose, add 3' to the cargo floor and get competitive with there pricing ( say $30k to $40k with options) then they would really have something! $50k is outrageous lol lol it's only big enough to haul motor bikes or golf carts! what were they thinking! https://youtu.be/iVa7VltgOSc
dsrace 05/21/20 05:02pm Toy Haulers
RE: Advice Please - Airbags & Weight Distribution Hitches

i put 25 psi in my air bags and wound up tongue lite. i then dropped to 10 psi and set my anderson wdh/anti sway hitch 1 turn lighter then there specs. right on the money now.
dsrace 05/17/20 07:19am Toy Haulers
RE: new style toyhauler, not for everyone

I saw one of these at Cougar Buttes, had a big rock crawler on the back...wondered about tongue weight not being enough. my 2k lb sand rail balanced it out nicely. i have not pulled across a scale yet to back that up with actual numbers but i could see a concern with a 4k lbs toy on the back. only upside to a krawler on the back would be the motor and trans would be in front of the axles vs mine behind them.
dsrace 05/16/20 09:02am Toy Haulers
RE: new style toyhauler, not for everyone

here is one i did like as we don't need slide outs https://www.shadowtrailerworld.com/store/p3578/2019_STW_Enclosed_Toy_Hauler_With_14%E2%80%99_Luxury_LQ_85300-90-GN-TOY-LQ_SKU_LQ73910.html just couldn't get a final price nailed down and too far away to go look at. based on the pics it looks like exactly what i wanted less the tiny little kitchen sink.
dsrace 05/16/20 09:00am Toy Haulers
RE: new style toyhauler, not for everyone

Sundowner Krawler Sundowner, which is a popular and respected brand in the horse hauling business/rodeo circuit have this. I saw one at the last RV show I went to. It was built SOLID, with a price to match, but the living space was really nice and well constructed. oh i looked at these units pretty hard. https://ocalatrailer.com/inventory/1037859/view/JA0532/Ocala-FL/2019-Sundowner-2486SKM i just couldn't get over the $70k price tage vs the $20k ( out the door) i paid for the overnighter model. is there $50k worth of better manufacturing?? i doubt it but always possible. for $40k i would've jumped on a sundowner model before an overnighter by genesis supreme! unfortunately there weren't any for sale at that price or close too. i was tired of calling those dealerships to hear " let me put something together and get back to you) then never heard back. i guess $40k is a waste of there time?? imo lakota or merhow make a better unit vs sundowner. yes lakota and merhow entered the toyhauler buisness but do not yet offer a krawler series. there prices are very competitive to sundowners. i do like the contsruction on the millineum trailer line he just hasn't got his interiors in order or his online quote system. the owner def knows his trailers for sure! i personally spoke with lakota as well as merhow reps. they will make changes to an extent but do not make 8'6" wide models.
dsrace 05/16/20 08:56am Toy Haulers
RE: new style toyhauler, not for everyone

i do have to say that it took a few hrs to get used to a toyhauler on the bumper again. it's been 9 years since i had one on the bumper. i have been spoiled the last 9 years with a fifthwheel with the dexter ez flex plus shock absorbers riding on an air ride hitch. http://www.mountainmaster.net/hitches/airhitchcom.html i can tell the unit does not have shock absobers and i will add them. the spread axle equalizers are wider than any flex absorbing equalizer i have seen. i also purchased the anderson antisway load leveling system. https://andersenhitches.com/Catalog/8-droprise-wd-kits.aspx obviously i do not need the load leveling but i wanted the sway control w/o the hensley propride price tags as i do set my cruise at 75 mph. i have with all my trailers and i go to great lengths to make sure i am as safe as possible at those speeds. the f350 dually with the anderson system is like a belt and suspenders but why not lol you can definitely tell the sway control is working!! with 10 psi in my air bags i have to set the hitch 1 step lower than there recommended starting point or the back end of my truck sits 1.75" higher than the front. i have it set so the nose of the camper is .5" lower than the rear and my wheel wells sit level. i looked at https://www.etrailer.com/Weight-Distribution-Hitch/Hayes/HA81775.html but i just didn't like the idea of it wearing my brakes faster. maybe it wouldn't but ....ya. they claim these units are half ton towable but imo 3/4 ton min for the tounge weight and sway. you don't have the full length of a wall grabbing wind but i feel the front half in a healthy side wind applies a little more side load directly to the back of the truck. that's just my opinion though but have not towed with any other truck. obviously mine is an older f350 dually. it's entire life has been pulling trailers. this is why is just turned 132k miles last week. i spent a lot to make 400 rwhp reliably in this truck which is why i'm keeping it. does look funny towing this unit lol
dsrace 05/09/20 04:20pm Toy Haulers
RE: new style toyhauler, not for everyone

I see you have a 1ton Dually, so may not be an issue but what's the hitch weight without the buggy on the back? Toy haulers are known for having higher hitch weights and this one would seem to be an extreme example with nothing but frame and deck aft of the wheels. I've seen lots of similar examples where the toys are in the front. i am pulling with the f350 dually diesel, because that's the truck i have. def do not need it but hey why not. so that is a good question on tongue weight. i have a weigh safe hitch, 1500 lbs tongue weight empty. 5100 dry weight as well, about 23%.
dsrace 05/09/20 03:59pm Toy Haulers
RE: new style toyhauler, not for everyone

Looks like a decent choice if outside space is more important than living space. Not my choice, but it certainly would work. My thoughts as well. Nice to have options to the typical behemoth toy hauler. In addition to living space, having your toys exposed to the elements is a major consideration. quite true! fortunately the sand rail cover shown in the picture is a cover i had custom made by a local shop that custom makes travel boat covers. he said i should have no issues at 80 mph or he would repair/modify the cover. so far no issues traveling at 75 mph and keeps it dry. other then that mine stays outside while we are at the dunes.
dsrace 05/09/20 12:39pm Toy Haulers
RE: new style toyhauler, not for everyone

Looks like a decent choice if outside space is more important than living space. Not my choice, but it certainly would work. you are correct, very limited on living space indeed. it has been an adjustment from the fifthwheel ;) so far i have adapted well and enjoy it. one thing i will say for fact is.....the 13,500 btu ac unit is overkill! 94* outside and on med it was 65* inside according to the thermostat on the wall. that is a hug plus.
dsrace 05/09/20 11:05am Toy Haulers
RE: Next level roof question

that really sucks for sure. prob have to call hr to get that info, if it's still available.
dsrace 05/09/20 10:32am Toy Haulers
RE: new style toyhauler, not for everyone

looks like a river boat. i think ss minnow would be fitting lol
dsrace 05/09/20 10:31am Toy Haulers
new style toyhauler, not for everyone

so i had been searching new toyhauler models for some time. i was looking at very specific options on the fifthwheel toyhaulers. 1st and foremost was ccc!! 2nd was uvw weight, 3rd overall height and 4th was axle upgrade options. now most and i mean most manufacturers do not offer axle upgrades. i believe this is because they used a lesser quality frame and they are maxing it out with advertised gvwr. this explains why the triple 7k lb axle 40' fivers i looked at had gvwr's of 19k to 20k rather than 21k. i began looking at west coast built units as that is where the majority are built for offroaders by offroaders. eclipse offers some very nice units under 3 diff names. genesis supreme as well as pacific coach works. sand storm by forest river has a west coast facility and they actually make a stronger unit in that plant than it's counter part in indiana. makes sense as they are competing with the other 3. i did not check pacific coachworks but eclipse and genesis offer axle upgrades to add ccc. so for the here and now i decided to go a different route with a new design and new model. not sure how but i bought a 2021 model 3 months ago. i have been modifying it to better suite our needs and am about half way there lol. so it is a major step down from the 34' wolf pack 295 we had. i went with the genesis supreme overnighter fk model. https://www.genesissupremerv.com/med...3e1ff4ce91.pdf they offer a 6k lb axle upgrade. of course i went with that and they come stock with F range tires with a L speed rating. so mine actually weighs 5200 lbs with a 12k gvwr. my sand rail and gear add 3k lbs easy. once i add the tool box's for outside storage and the awning with the xtend add a room https://youtu.be/IvjIpxh5hDo prob be pushing 3500 lbs of cargo but well below the ccc. all the new fifthwheels i looked at have gone 13'5" to 13'6" in oal height. our 2011 295 wolf pack was only 12'2" oal height and still had 6'2" head room in the bedroom. not sure why all the new models had to go a foot taller unless it was easier to manufacture. so the new overnighter is a hard tent on a flat bed. so far i like it for short 3 day runs to the sand dunes in oklahoma. wind doesn't grab it like the fiver. the biggest decision to go to this unit was the fact that my wife doesn't always go on the dunes trips. she does the majority of they times but not always. while we/i are there, we are rarely in the camper as we meet up with a group of offroaders when we go. we do enjoy the back deck very much. i ordered a custom sized awning from carefree of colorado, fiesta model, to mount over the rear door. i have not gotten it installed as i just got it last week and temps are still dropping to 35* at night. i ordered new happijac bed rails so the bed comes all the way down now. i deleted one couch and installed a tv cabinet with matching counter top. will add under chassis mount tool box's as soon as i hear back as to what sizes they will make for me. https://i.postimg.cc/yk47wZcT/thumbnail-IMG-20200308-185301.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/qNQ0hDYm/thumbnail-IMG-20200426-133338.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/QBtDpkZj/thumbnail-IMG-20200426-163244.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/Mv7zxpYJ/thumbnail-IMG-20200430-082102.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/PLRjKpdY/thumbnail-IMG-20200430-082734.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/PCdTqn6p/thumbnail-IMG-20200507-191015.jpg
dsrace 05/09/20 10:30am Toy Haulers
RE: Toy Hauler Door Capacities

for the vast majority of indiana built toyhaulers, it's either 2500 lbs or 3000 lb distributed evenly. for atc, sundowner, merhow, lakota etc etc it's 7k lbs to 11k lbs. i load a 1960 lb sand rail in mine. you can see the door bow a bit and mine is rated for 3k lbs. my cargo area states 2400 lbs on the wall. i removed the happy jack beds and couches so i could add 750 lbs to that #.
dsrace 01/03/20 03:37pm Toy Haulers
RE: Genesis Supreme RV Overnighter

i know it's a lot to ask but if they would give the shell a v nose front like the raptor 21fb they could actually make a much better use of the space. https://i.postimg.cc/MXmQWs43/mod31221.jpg
dsrace 01/01/20 08:41am Toy Haulers
RE: Genesis Supreme RV Overnighter

i have been eyeballing one of these models. https://www.genesissupremerv.com/media/5dc9b8d245c05.pdf this model in particular but with a couple small changes. i wanted the couches removed and the happy jack bed swapped out to a full height model. they said no but i then realized they thought i was asking for bunk beds. i do not want bunk beds just a single i can roll up and out of the way. it is just i and my wife so a couple rocker recliners would be perfect especially out on the deck. i would of course turn the bed 90* so we could walk around the ends of it but not a full walk around of course. i called the plant and he said he would check to make sure they could get a full length system for that model since the wide body overnighter model is only 8' wide. so come to find out the 2020 models will prob be 8'6" wide which is what a wide body actually is. so i think i would wait for the wider model. easier to load my sand rail and an extra 6" of width in the length of the sleeper!
dsrace 12/31/19 03:40pm Toy Haulers
RE: Just wondering

go right to the f450, it doesn't ride any rougher than the f350 imo. get the wheel balancers for it, they help a lot https://www.centramatic.com/centramatic-balancing-rings-on-a-F450.rhtml you will have the better brakes, betterturning radius and better payload from the f450 drw vs the f350. i have seen some nice f450's for the same money as the f350's just fewer options.
dsrace 11/15/19 03:48pm Toy Haulers
RE: Heartland Fuel vs. Cruiser Stryker

i have never looked at the heartland fuel and apperantly do not need to since i have looked at the stryker. stryker doesn't build a unit with enough ccc for a sxs or sand rail so i didn't look at any of there other models. looked like a decent toyhauler for smaller toys.
dsrace 11/15/19 03:41pm Toy Haulers
RE: Toy Hauler Pictures

Here is our setup... 2020 Attitude 32IBG and the toys https://i.ibb.co/zNxnYXD/20190517-083120-2.jpg width=800 https://i.ibb.co/gP8myNz/54279149-10218777140566316-3123440336664264704-n.jpg width=800 https://i.ibb.co/nQ0sDfZ/54430299-10218777141766346-2482116717673709568-n.jpg width=800 now that looks like a blast! i have been looking at genesis and attitude toyhaulers to haul my 2 seat rail. how do you like yours so far?
dsrace 11/12/19 08:55pm Toy Haulers
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