Sprinkle MSG (accent meat tenderizer) like a heavy dose of salt on the food of all the animals. This USUALLY changes the digestive process and halts the coprophagy.
The idea that this could be a medical issue bears consideration. Often times a good multiple vitamin/mineral supplement made for the appropriate species is all that's needed.
Anal Sac info sheet, go to the bottom for information about anal sacculectomy.
I've done many, not my favorite surgery. This procedure has a very high incidence of complications.
Despite doing a sterile procedure, infection and poor healing are pretty common (think about where the surgery is done and what happens during after-care).
Also, all the nerves to the rectum go through the area of surgery. Post-op inflammation, infections and trauma during surgery can lead to fecal incontinence. Most of the time this is temporary, but can be permantent.
My usual recommendations are not to do it, unless there is a tumor (really mandatory in that case) or chronic serious infections. Frequent expressing of the anal sacs is not usually enough reason for me, but that's my opinion.
Doug, DVM (retired but still doing surgery occasionally)
BTW, the last one I did was last August on our son's dog (anal sac adenocarcinoma - cancer). He had a little slow healing (took two weeks) but had very little pain. He's about 6 months post surgery and no signs of cancer regrowth at this time.
Vaseline use is not an issue (have used it for years), but you may get other benefits from the oils.
Constipation in older cats is a common issue. It sometimes is a signal that an age related problem is starting (sometimes before lab work shows us anything).
I'd think about doing special urine and blood tests that check for very early renal (kidney) disease. In the meantime, increasing water consumption will be helpful. Wet food is a very good way.
I actually disagree with both of you.
Based on years of experiences with euthanasia and being the one to advise then actually "kill" the dog or cat, I can tell you that the incidents of people waiting too long are REALLY, REALLY infrequent.
There is a spectrum of comfort level people feel when deciding timing of euthanasia. Getting the exact appropriate time is a matter of opinion and most people really do consider the sufferring of the animals.
The difference between A dog and an elderly or infirmed dog is huge. In 2010 our last remaining dog died just before a planned vacation. We decided to do something special and different (went to Disney World). While we always enjoy RVing, and enjoyed this trip we adopted a rescue about a month after we got home. Now we travel with two.
I think Wildtoad said it well We don't make plans based on the animals, but do make accommodations.
They do add to our enjoyment, stimulate more activity and require very little in return for what they provide us.
Airlines generally have gotten better, but there are many things beyond their control, weather delays, ground holds being two. This time of year with the weather, I'd be afraid unless they ride with you in the cabin.
I never understand why an admin or moderator fails to respond to threads such as this with a simple explanation of what is happening.
Look at the third response in this thread, 24 minutes after the first post. Pretty good response as we're having the same problems getting on.
We're getting extremes here. Animals OK with anything, after all they have survived for eons with no special diets and the other extreme - absolutely all human quality food, no additives, no byproducts.
The actual "best for the animal" is definitely somewhere in the middle.
The implication that ALL byproducts are inferior and shouldn't be fed is what I have issues with. That does NOT mean that a diet should only have byproducts.
To have a complete diet you NEED a source of calcium - bone meal is one of the best, absolutely a byproduct. If you don't source it somehow you'll get a calcium/phosphorus ratio that will eventually kill your dog.
There are essential nutrients that are most easily sources through byproducts. They can be sourced other ways, but there is no reason that appropriate byproducts shouldn't be used.
Pawz writes a well thought out response and it's pretty much right along with my thinking.
A good pet food is the one your pet does well on. You can't judge that by any rating system, it's a trial and error.
It used to be (20-30 years ago) the higher the price, the more consistent the sourcing of ingredients thus the more consistent results in feeding. Now days so many boutique food companies have gotten into the field that that may not be the case.
I generally don't like dog food advisor because I don't agree with their basic premise on what's good and what's bad. That site does a very good job describing what byproducts are and their actual nutritional value, but I strongly disagree with their conclusion that the use of byproducts is an indication that all the other ingredients are more likely to be inferior.
The bottom line is that it goes down to how reputable the company is and how reliable they are in sourcing their ingredients and how religious they are in production protocols and how they formulate and determine "complete" diets.
There is great benefit in the research that has been done and the years of experience by the major food companies (purina, hill's, royal canin, mars, etc.) in evaluating the nutritional needs for many different animal species.
... I don't think BB did our pets any harm, and they're all gone now. All of our vets disdained the brand, which we did discontinue using.
I don't think BB is a bad food. I just don't believe they are better just because they claim to have not by products, etc. Very deceptive.
Asking people if they would serve byproducts to their family. Come on, ever heard of pork rinds, pigs feet, sweet breads, poultry giblets (heart, gizzard, liver), tongue, reticulum, natural sausage casing, brain, rocky mountain oysters, LIVER.
The false advertising class action lawsuits took issue with Blue Buffalo’s “True Blue Promise” label, which indicates the product contains no poultry byproduct meals; no corn, wheat or soy; and no artificial flavors, colors or preservatives. According to the plaintiffs, several investigations have indicated that those ingredients are present in products with the “True Blue Promise” label.
According to the Blue Buffalo class action lawsuits, consumers paid a premium for the Blue Buffalo products with the “True Blue Promise” label because they were falsely advertised as having better quality ingredients than many other pet foods on the market.
My issue is not JUST truth in advertising that was the issue in the law suit. Their big premise "no byproducts" is a better food is not supported by OVERWHELMING nutritional evidence that is out there. Just because they advertise it and say it, doesn't make it true or accurate. Just plain deceitful.
She is now on fluoxetine (prozac) daily with alprazolam (xanax) added during extreme anxiety, and is doing very well.
As you can tell by the responses there are many methods that are tried. What will work in your dog requires a trial and error method until you find the right one.
Margaret is using the best (IMO) combination prescription method for dealing with serious phobias. Many people are reluctant to use medications, but this protocol is not just tranquilization and is extremely effective. These medications work centrally in the brain to lessen anxiety. They are effective and often can be tapered and eliminated after a period of use.
Very good news. When I've had these refractory UTIs, I've had success doing long term antibiotics and cultures before stopping antibiotics and then possibly switching antibiotics during the course of treatment.
Just leaving a dog is a cage was one of my BIG pet peeves. There is no excuse, if that is what happened. Sometimes, dogs do hold it, but with high urine output due to Cushing's, UTI or renal disease, most take the advantage of any opportunity to relieve themselves.
Contrary to personal experiences related here, potentiated sulfa drugs are one of the best choices for UTIs. They have a very low incidence of side effects and are remarkably effective in treating almost all of them. As with all drugs, the potential for side effects are always present, but these are situations that the vet takes into consideration evaluating each individual's health conditions and issues.
Cushing's is a pretty common disease and there are a few medication available for treatment now days. Lysodren was the only one available years ago and is still a good drug, but has some potential side effects the others don't seem to have as much.
Here's hoping that this is a situation that can successfully treated and your little one gets back to normal.
Have a safe trip "back home to Indiana."
Really tough time of the year for the loss. We've had 2 close to the holidays and left us pretty empty. You've got lots of people here who understand what you're going through. Our sympathies are sent your way.