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RE: 2015 Ford Focus flat tow damage

The consumer is stuck in the middle if you tow a unibody car . Did Ford or Roadmaster do there home work on the stress on a unibody car ? They are going to point there fingers at the consumer because nobody but you installed it . The car I replace it with a Buick SUV . The dealer probably thot I was crazy because i got under under the car in the show room looking at the way the unibody was made . The unibody was all one piece and the Roadmaster base plate had 8 bolts on each side not 3 like the Ford . I hope i made the right choice . It is a shame the consumer has to a structure engineer in this case .
j wackerly 10/14/21 08:57am Dinghy Towing
RE: 2015 Ford Focus flat tow damage

Have you had any communications with Roadmaster about the failure and the connection point?I did send my photo to roadmaster . I have not heard back yet ?
j wackerly 10/14/21 08:24am Dinghy Towing
RE: 2015 Ford Focus flat tow damage

I have done some research on base plates and nobody makes a base plate that extends past where my failed at . If you look at the photo on page 4 . This is where the base plate should extend to .
j wackerly 10/11/21 08:22am Dinghy Towing
RE: 2015 Ford Focus flat tow damage

After reading all the post . It looks like if you have a unibody car you are on your own when you have any base plate installed to it . The only sure way is not to tow a unibody unless you you know the stresses points on your car . A full frame car would be the best way to go .
j wackerly 10/06/21 11:27am Dinghy Towing
RE: 2015 Ford Focus flat tow damage

I read this topic with some concern as I tow a 2017 Ford Focus and have done so for more than 20K miles with some four trips from the east coast across the rockies of Wyoming, montana and colorado. It appears the towbar could have been connected to the bumper assembly instead of to the chassis properly. I remember when I had baseplate installed the mechanic had to remove the entire front end of vehicle in order to make the correct connections since he said it would be literally impossible to properly hook up the tow bar unless he remove the front end. Once removed I could see why because the Focus being subcompact is very cramped and you simply cannot reach anything unless you have clearance. Anyway he did a good job as I have never had any problem associated with the baseplate mount which is critical for any flat tow.If you look at page 2 you can see the Roadmaster base plate is still installed to the unibody . The base plate was installed correctly loctite and torqued per instructions .
j wackerly 10/06/21 08:12am Dinghy Towing
RE: 2015 Ford Focus flat tow damage

1) How would a 2015 Focus be "under warranty" when the factory bumper-to-bumper warranty is only 3-years? 2) The baseplate was attached to the bumper assembly, not the chassis aka "unibody". The section affected is part of the crumple-zone. 3) Rust indicates the welds were cracked a long time. Could be from towing stress. Could also be from a low-speed collision that maybe didn't even cause visible external damage. I'd put my money on a tow-bar that wasn't level however. This causes tremendous stresses under braking and accelerating.It was completely level . I had to use a drop hitch on my RV to make it level. Believe me i did everything posable to make every thing correct.
j wackerly 10/06/21 07:59am Dinghy Towing
RE: 2015 Ford Focus flat tow damage

Blue ox gives you the same safety cables to go around the frame rails. Must be something with the Focus, because I haven’t seen those on other vehicles including my Explorer.I looked at blue ox and the base plate all bolt on the same Before i towed the Ford Focus i towed a Honda for years . I sold my Honda and the guy i sold it to is still towing it with no problem . I was going to buy a new Honda CRV in 2015 . I found out you can no longer tow them because of the new tranmission. So i had to settle for a Ford Focus . Big mistake after 4 transmission 2 modules and unibody problems . It looks like the base plate manufacture and car manufacture need to get together to engineer the right product especially for unibody cars.
j wackerly 10/05/21 09:04am Dinghy Towing
RE: 2015 Ford Focus flat tow damage

Like I said, Ford designed the chassis and specified the welds to hold the body panels, doors, bumpers and other components, in place under normal use. The owner, in conjunction with the baseplate installer and manufacturer endeavored to modify the vehicle to serve a function not considered by the Ford design engineers. Any failure of a vehicle caused by an unauthorized modification is the responsibility of the person making the modification. Ford has no control over how you decided to mount the tow bar. :R According to your logic, if I decided to mount a 5th wheel hitch on the roof of a Camry and pull a 40' 5th wheel around, Toyota should be responsible if the roof couldn't handle the stress As to the transmission, based on post #1 I thought this was a thread about a tow bar failure.The reason i posted this post was to make aware this could happen to anybody that tow a Ford Focus . I purchased this car because Ford said it can be flat towed as stated on page 185 of owners manual. And roarmaster base plate will work on this car per instructions . As a consumer who can you believe ? The only way this could be avoided is to have a full frame car .
j wackerly 10/04/21 01:06pm Dinghy Towing
RE: 2015 Ford Focus flat tow damage

If you look at my photo on page 1 you can see where the unibody came loose from the weld . The above photo shows a roadmaster instructions where the base plate is installed to the unibody. I did some research on base plates and roadmaster or blue ox install the same . You decide did roadmaster or Ford did not anticipate the fatigue on the on the unibody ? I am no engineer but who can you believe to trust on a car that can be tow with all wheels down ?
j wackerly 09/30/21 04:41pm Dinghy Towing
RE: 2015 Ford Focus flat tow damage

https://i.imgur.com/lPTNtxUl.jpg "border=0" https://i.imgur.com/m3zZPvb.pngClick For Full-Size Image. This is a photo of my 2015 Ford Focus Roadmaster base plate that failed .
j wackerly 09/30/21 03:31pm Dinghy Towing
RE: 2015 Ford Focus flat tow damage

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j wackerly 09/30/21 03:20pm Dinghy Towing
RE: 2015 Ford Focus flat tow damage

Actually, I think fault lies with the baseplate manufacturer, the installer or with the vehicle owner. They're the ones who designed and installed a baseplate to an insufficiently strong point on the vehicle frame. Like someone said, if the baseplate manufacturer designed the baseplate to bolt to the license plate bracket, who's fault would it be when the license plate bracket pulled off? Several years ago some baseplate manufacturer (don't remember who) designed a baseplate for a Wrangler that bolted on to the lower front air dam bracket. Several folks had issues with that but it certainly wasn't Jeeps fault. When you bolt something on to a vehicle, it's your responsibility to make sure it's bolted to something that can handle the load. Ford did nothing wrong here. They designed a frame to hold on the front panels of a car they built. I doubt they ever certified the baseplate design. They did say the car could be towed 4 down but they likely never said you could bolt a towbar in that location. And Ford doesn't make the decision as to who can bring a class action lawsuit. :SHow about the transmission problems 4 in less then 5yr . I am not the only one on that .
j wackerly 09/29/21 07:24am Dinghy Towing
RE: 2015 Ford Focus flat tow damage

Thanks willald, I missed that post, and I apologize to the OP for asking again. I installed the baseplate on my Buddy`s 13 Focus. so I think we will be checking his now. My 2015 focus is new model and not the same as 2013 .
j wackerly 09/29/21 07:13am Dinghy Towing
RE: 2015 Ford Focus flat tow damage

I was a loyal Ford customer all my life till I got this Ford Focus , With all the transmission and module problems and to put the icing on the cake unibody failed . When it let me down in California the Ford dealer said they do not due loner cars I was on my own . I call Ford costumer service with all the problems I am having with this car . They told me I dint qualify for class action lawsuit , and my extended warranty didn't cover my unibody failure . I ask to talk to her supervisor she hung up on me . If you try to leave a massage her voice mail is full . This is what I get to be a loyal Ford Customer . That is way I will never buy another Ford and get extended warranty .
j wackerly 09/17/21 08:03am Dinghy Towing
RE: 2015 Ford Focus flat tow damage

If you google Ford Focus transmission issues , you will fine there is a class-action law lawsuit on this car . I called Ford they said I didn't qualify . The 2015 was the first year for this design . I'm sure they didn't know what stresses the unibody would have on it buy flat towing it behind a RV . As far as normal driving you should have any problems . There is probably not many people flat towing these cars as much as I have . I am on the Road at least 6 months of the year . I believe if you have a full frame or a unibody that is all one piece , you should have any problems . Buy the way when it left me stranded in California and the Ford garage had it for a week to fix the tramission and module . I did have a noise under the hood after that .
j wackerly 09/16/21 07:34am Dinghy Towing
RE: 2015 Ford Focus flat tow damage

The steering was unlocked and car is in neutral with negative battery disconnect. I did everything per Ford instruction . When I make a turn like that I always look in my mirror it see how the car is doing . When I made that turn the wheels were turning and I saw the front of the car come off . I pullover right a way to inspect the damage. I had the car towed to a Ford garage and Ford would not even look at it . I towed that car 50,000 miles i believe the stress on the unibody just gave out . I believe this was a blessing if I was going hwy speed it could have been more serious . This car was a lemon from day one Ford had it in the shop 4 times for transmission and module problem . My insurance totaled the car . I could not gotten that much on a trade . Bottline line if you are going to flat tow make sure it is a full frame or Unibody that is all one piece with no stops and stay away from Ford .
j wackerly 09/15/21 07:43am Dinghy Towing
RE: 2015 Ford Focus flat tow damage

I hear what you are saying but I didn't trust Ford to install it . When I installed it with loctite and torque per instructions. Bottom line it looks like if you are going to flat tow a car it should be a full frame or continuous unibody with no stops .
j wackerly 09/13/21 02:43pm Dinghy Towing
RE: 2015 Ford Focus flat tow damage

Ford states on page 185 of my owners manual it can be flat towed . I tow this car for almost 5yr with over 50,000 miles towing . You are right Ford didn't know full grasp of the stresses involved . Don't you think Ford should responsible the design problem . If this happen going down the hwy it could have been a serious accident . The car was still under warranty and Ford would not even look at it . How can we let people know this could to them with a Ford Focus ? Ford customer service would not help me, I tried to to tell them about my problem and sent them photos they hung up on me . I will never buy a Ford again .
j wackerly 09/13/21 11:26am Dinghy Towing
RE: 2015 Ford Focus flat tow damage

You can see on photo # 1 where the weld broke from the unibody . Photo # 2 where the roadmaster baseplate is still bolted to the unibody . It took the hole front of the car off safety chains and all . Good thing I was looking in my mirror when I made that turn from the stop sign when the car came off it wound have more serious ate hwy speed . I been tow this car for all most 5yr . The car was still under warranty and Ford would not do anything . I tried to get a attorney they won't do any thing because no bodily injury.If you tow a Ford Focus this could happen to you . It is like the Ford Pinto they won't do anything till a lot happened.
j wackerly 09/13/21 08:48am Dinghy Towing
RE: 2015 Ford Focus flat tow damage

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j wackerly 09/13/21 08:18am Dinghy Towing
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