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RE: Couple of Ramp Questions
I have an old Weekend Warrior.
Big single hinge along the bottom of the door.
Never lubed it, works great.
Big springs on the sides to assist.
Ramp is rated at 3000lbs.
My buggy weighs 2900lbs, but only 1 set of tires is on the ramp at any one time.
Seals great.
Insulation? Not sure. Probably something in there, but never had it apart.
Construction? Wood I'm sure.
Someone posted pix of the inside of a ramp on this site years ago.
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lincster
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01/11/21 01:36pm |
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RE: How do I move weight forward?
Some old members may remember this but several years back we had a Rv.net member who I think had a tri axle TH ?? with the same problem. His rig was a handful with the garage loaded. He worked with his trailer mfg and the solution was for them to reposition the axles under the unit.
I've had this done by a big rig trailer repair shop on a tri axle GN stock trailer.
Another option is 8k axle upgrades if moving things around fails.
IMO NHTSA screwed the pooch with their GVWR rules change in early '00s. They issued a NPRM for CFR 571 rules change regarding setting a rv trailers GVWR.
Consumer groups were pushing rules changes to same as a commercial trailers/motor vehicles with the sum of the axle ratings as its GVWR. However they caved in to RVIA push to allow lower axle rating than the units GVWR. They saved a few bucks.
All my commercial class trailers GVWR has always been the sum of its axle rating.
This. I agree.
OP, your toyhauler is of poor design in location of everything. Water tanks should always go above or slightly in front of the axles.
This is more a limitation of trailer length and 2 axles vs 3. There are 2 black tanks, 1 gray tank, at least 1 water tank, 1 fuel tank. There's only so many places to put that stuff. I would argue it's a better design since it's easier to fill up water and fuel at a campground than it is to dump black and gray. Therefor you can carry heavier cargo since the waste tanks are in the front.
Fill up water and fuel at a campground is what you base a "good design" on? Wow.
I will again state what I did earlier, glad I have a triple axle trailer with a 1 ton dually. I don't worry about where I put stuff or what I haul. Full water, empty water, full fuel, empty fuel, it all tows the same for me.
Good luck.
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lincster
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11/05/20 06:11am |
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RE: How do I move weight forward?
Some old members may remember this but several years back we had a Rv.net member who I think had a tri axle TH ?? with the same problem. His rig was a handful with the garage loaded. He worked with his trailer mfg and the solution was for them to reposition the axles under the unit.
I've had this done by a big rig trailer repair shop on a tri axle GN stock trailer.
Another option is 8k axle upgrades if moving things around fails.
IMO NHTSA screwed the pooch with their GVWR rules change in early '00s. They issued a NPRM for CFR 571 rules change regarding setting a rv trailers GVWR.
Consumer groups were pushing rules changes to same as a commercial trailers/motor vehicles with the sum of the axle ratings as its GVWR. However they caved in to RVIA push to allow lower axle rating than the units GVWR. They saved a few bucks.
All my commercial class trailers GVWR has always been the sum of its axle rating.
This. I agree.
OP, your toyhauler is of poor design in location of everything. Water tanks should always go above or slightly in front of the axles.
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lincster
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11/04/20 10:57am |
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RE: Toy Hauler legend has passed
RIP.
I personally never had an issue with Mark.
He called me a few times and asked my input on what he could change when he started his new company after WW.
Seemed like a good guy.
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lincster
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11/04/20 06:05am |
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RE: PSI rating variables
My Warrior has 9500lbs on the axles and 2500lbs pin weight, empty trailer.
So I can see those numbers.
I have put my trailer on the CAT scale numerous times.
Don't worry about placard, go with a good LT tire, not ST junk.
As stated already, don't mix/match tires.
Long time, no see, Linc. Glad to see you still kicking around.
How is your Warrior holding up?
Have you been out to the dunes yet this season? I heard they are seeing record crowds already.
Oh yes, still at it. LOL.
Warrior is holding up well, minor stuff from age, but still in great shape.
Put about 7000 miles a year on it. I have had it since 2004...... 105k miles give or take? So I would say it is holding up extremely well. :)
Leaving for the dunes for the first trip in a few days.
I'm sure it will be a busy season.
Everyone seems to be buying toys and campers and getting out of town.
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lincster
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11/04/20 06:04am |
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RE: Hitch weight vs payload
When I had my truck weighed with and without the toy hauler, the front axle weight was the same telling me none of the trailer's weight is on the front axle.
Agreed.
I have CAT scaled my setup multiple ways.
Truck only.
Truck with empty toyhauler.
Truck with full toyhauler.
My front axle weights on my truck only changed by 15 lbs, no matter the configuration.
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lincster
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11/04/20 05:58am |
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RE: How do I move weight forward?
So glad I have a 5th wheel and 1 ton dually. Don't have to worry about this stuff.
Put stuff where I want and head on down the road.
So you didn't read the thread at all and you are superior because you have a dually. Got it.
His problem is lack of weight being on the truck. Not too much weight.
Pretty much.
You didn't understand my post obviously.
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lincster
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11/04/20 05:56am |
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RE: How do I move weight forward?
So glad I have a 5th wheel and 1 ton dually. Don't have to worry about this stuff.
Put stuff where I want and head on down the road.
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lincster
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11/03/20 05:58am |
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RE: PSI rating variables
My Warrior has 9500lbs on the axles and 2500lbs pin weight, empty trailer.
So I can see those numbers.
I have put my trailer on the CAT scale numerous times.
Don't worry about placard, go with a good LT tire, not ST junk.
As stated already, don't mix/match tires.
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lincster
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11/03/20 05:55am |
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RE: Toyhauler hitch/truck setup
2600lb pin is about right for an empty trailer. Mine is 2700lbs empty.
With my 5th wheel, once I filled up with 160 gallons of water and put my 3000lb sand rail in the back, my pin went to 3400lbs.
Don't assume putting stuff in the back/garage is going to lighten the pin much.
It mainly depends on the location of water tanks.
70% of my tanks are in front of the front axle. Ipso facto..... all goes to the pin.
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lincster
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08/04/20 10:50am |
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RE: Can I tow this? Rig Setup with statistics here
My many years on this site has shown me it only takes 1 person that says "sure, you can tow that, I have the same thing".
Then the OP convinces themselves that they can do it.
Tahoes can tow a boat or small open trailer.
Their wheelbase is too short to tow any decent amount of weight.
But go ahead and hook up and come back and tell us if the trailer started pushing you around when you get up to speed.
I have been told I am in the "conservative" camp, but then again, I have enough truck to hook up to any toy hauler made, so I don't mind being in that camp.
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lincster
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06/01/20 10:15am |
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RE: Do I have this math/ understanding right?
Gotta get it weighed and then do simple math.
GVWR-CAT Weight = Weight available for hitch. Assuming you were on the CAT scale with everything you would carry in the truck.
GCWR - CAT Weight = Total available weight you can tow. Same assumption as above.
With that said, my pin weight of my trailer is 2700lbs with no water in the hauler.
After I add 150 gallons of water, my pin weight goes up to 3700 lbs.
After I load my sand car in my hauler, which weighs 2800lbs, my pin weight goes down to 3400lbs (with full water in the hauler).
Of course, this is with me having all the normal camping **** in the trailer all the time.
I am just showing weight changes on big ticket items.
If people have to worry about normal "stuff" putting them over a weight rating, they don't have enough truck.
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lincster
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05/26/20 08:07am |
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RE: tow vehicle advice
Depends on what you want.
If you want to stay within the tow ratings of the truck, you have to have a 2011+ F350.
2011 is when the tow ratings took a decent step up.
Will a 2002 F250 tow that trailer?
Yep, all day long.
Are you over the ratings of the truck?
Yep, all day long.
Depends on what you want.
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lincster
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03/09/20 09:12am |
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