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RE: Please help choose a Truck and Toy Hauler
I've considered keeping my current truck but what worries me is the hitch/tongue weight limit. Truck's tongue limit is 1000 lbs with a weight dist hitch. Let's say I pick a toy hauler with a dry hitch weight of 750 lbs and load up water (tank in front) and a 1500 lbs SxS over tandem axles. What do you estimate the hitch weight will be? This is my biggest concern.Many times the tongue weight goes down with the TH loaded, they are designed that way.
Look at my real world numbers, 2 full size quads only lowered it by 200lbs.
And that was with putting the quads all the way back against the ramp.
Can't do that with a SXS.
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lincster
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05/21/19 04:08pm |
Toy Haulers
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RE: Please help choose a Truck and Toy Hauler
I have real world tongue weights of a dual axle toy hauler, measured at the ball mount of the trailer.
We did no water/no toys. TW was 1100lbs.
Full water (150 gal)/no toys. TW went to 1900lbs.
Full water/2 full size quads. TW went to 1700lbs.
You will be all of 1500-1700lbs of tongue weight with a hauler that holds a decent amount of water and is a dual axle. No way around that.
No he is looking at 20' TH, not the 30' you had.....this is one exception where he has the right truck and does not need a new one.
You will be fine with your truck. Bottom line, get the trailer, tow it a few times, if you feel you want a bigger truck after that go for it.
I wasn't talking about my trailer.
I was talking about a buddies. It was 26' with dual axle.
The OP listed a 27 foot model..... so...... seems pretty close to my buddies 26' that we measured.
Still has the wrong truck, sorry.
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lincster
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05/21/19 04:06pm |
Toy Haulers
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RE: Please help choose a Truck and Toy Hauler
I have real world tongue weights of a dual axle toy hauler, measured at the ball mount of the trailer.
We did no water/no toys. TW was 1100lbs.
Full water (150 gal)/no toys. TW went to 1900lbs.
Full water/2 full size quads. TW went to 1700lbs.
You will be all of 1500-1700lbs of tongue weight with a hauler that holds a decent amount of water and is a dual axle. No way around that.
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lincster
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05/21/19 11:31am |
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RE: Please help choose a Truck and Toy Hauler
3/4 ton truck is a must for any decent sized toy hauler.
Once you fill the hauler with water and stuff, any 1/2 ton is going to hate it.
I had a buddy with a F250 with the gas motor and pulled a 26' hauler.
Truck did it, but he hated the experience and it sucked down the fuel.
Bought a 2019 F350 diesel and is all smiles towing.
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lincster
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05/21/19 11:29am |
Toy Haulers
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RE: Weight of toy hauler
One thing to remember is that just because the GVW of the trailer is X it doesn't mean that's what you're going to be pulling. The capacity comes from the axles and tires along with the pin/tongue weight. There's no magic to it besides that.
I think you meant "GVWR." The "GVW" is the actual weight of what you're pulling. For example, my trailer has a GVW of about 10k pounds when loaded, but the GVWR is 13,500.
Actually, GVWR is total weight of truck, passengers, stuff in bed and tongue/pin weight.
GVWR of the trailer is the total weight of the trailer, stuff, water, toys etc.
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lincster
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05/19/19 08:32am |
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RE: Weight of toy hauler
You won't be within your tow ratings with those size haulers, if that is what concerns you.
I had a 2004 FS3000 Weekend Warrior. Triple axle, 30' box, 34' total.
My tongue weight with full water and no toys in the back was 1700lbs.
Tongue weight with no water and no toys was 1400lbs.
Total trailer weight with full water and 4 quads was 12,960lbs.
The receiver on my F250 was not rated high enough for that tongue weight, even with a WD hitch.
I was over the GVWR of my truck when hooked up and people in the truck.
Will the truck do it? All day long.
Will you be within the tow ratings of the truck? No.
I have been down this road.
Finally stepped up to a F350 dually and I don't have to worry about this stuff anymore.
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lincster
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05/07/19 09:19am |
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RE: New Toy Hauler Help
Tow vehicle comes first.
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lincster
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05/02/19 03:10pm |
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RE: Single axle a SUV?
Wife has a Grand Cherokee. Nice little rig. I would never put even the smallest toy hauler behind it.
Agree with this.
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lincster
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05/01/19 10:20am |
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RE: weight distributing
If u really want to go by the numbers, the stock receiver on that truck is not rated high enough.
I had to buy a real class V hitch for my F350.
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lincster
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04/28/19 06:19pm |
Toy Haulers
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RE: Sealer goop on roofs
I did enternabond over the Dicor.
Cleaned the Dicor first and then applied.
Eternabond is great stuff.
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lincster
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04/25/19 04:24pm |
Toy Haulers
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RE: Fresh water tanks....Can they be Black in Color?
All of my tanks are black.
Every Weekend Warrior made from back in the day was this way.
Lots of fresh and not enough black/grey capacity is pretty normal for toy haulers.
Toy haulers have outside showers, pressure washers etc that use water.
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lincster
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04/17/19 11:05am |
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RE: Overwhelming
No traditional "toy hauler" will be smart to hook up to a Class C.
Look at a box or open trailer to tow behind that.
If you want to tow something heavy, gotta move up to a Class A.Even most class A have a 5k lbs tow rating until you get to the diesel pushers then most are in the 10-15k range but even some older ones are only rated at 5k. There are a couple of new gassers that have around 7k tow rating.
I guess I should have been more specific, none of the Class A's I camp with have gas motors.
They are all the big boys towing 25' stackers that weigh 15,000lbs.
They have no issue behind their Class A's.
But I still stand behind what I said, no Class C should be hauling a decent size toy hauler.
Enclosed, yes.
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lincster
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04/11/19 08:11am |
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RE: Overwhelming
No traditional "toy hauler" will be smart to hook up to a Class C.
Look at a box or open trailer to tow behind that.
If you want to tow something heavy, gotta move up to a Class A.
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lincster
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04/09/19 09:53am |
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RE: Weighed my Spartan 1245 yesterday
I applaud you for knowing your weights.
Too many people run around with their head in the sand saying "I see lots of other people using that truck".
You look good to go on everything.
Using that truck for what it was built for.
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lincster
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04/03/19 02:42pm |
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RE: 6.7 Diesel Towing MPG
I get 7-8 towing 17000lbs at 75mph.
Set the cruise and go.
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lincster
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03/29/19 10:51am |
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RE: Battery charging
I have a 2006 Warrior.
When you plug into your house, your batteries are charging.
When you go to check them after you unplug from the house, do you have a bunch of lights on or anything?
I can unplug my trailer, walk around to the door, turn on 2 lights and the batteries show yellow, brand new batteries.
I think you are reading too much in to it.
Maybe your batteries are getting old?
4 years is pretty good on batteries.
Do you have 12V or 6V?
How many?
These all play into the equation.
I have used the stock converter for years, have 1300 hours on my genny, no issues.
Sure there are nicer ones out there, but it works.
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lincster
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03/28/19 02:46pm |
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RE: Adding a 2nd battery
2 6V's will solve your heater problem overnight.
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lincster
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01/22/19 06:22am |
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RE: What 5r (ToyHauler) do you own?
OG Weekend Warrior.
I wouldn't get a new one as no one offers 21' of open cargo anymore it seems.
Everyone has garage's now.
That doesn't work for what I haul.
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lincster
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01/22/19 06:18am |
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RE: Where's everyone riding for MLK weekend?
Staying home.
Avoiding holiday weekends anymore.
Only 2 trips we make to the dunes are Thanksgiving and New Years.
All other trips are on off weekends.
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lincster
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01/16/19 06:48am |
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RE: Battery replacement time
I have been running 2 6V's on my Warriors since 2002. I get about 5 years out of a set.
Get them at Costco.
I can run the furnace all night set at 70F, while it is 38 outside, and I am still on Yellow in the morning.
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lincster
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01/03/19 06:35am |
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