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RE: 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton

Why do people list their trailers GVWR? Do people really tow at their trailers max? I don't. I had an 11,400 5er that loaded up weighed 9200-9300 lbs. Why would I want to mislead anyone? Yes. No big deal for me My situation 2012 Passport 3220 BHWE. 6280 Dry. 7500 Gross. I weighed it twice this summer for 5 day trips. Once with my 2002 2500HD once with the 2017 3500HD 3500lbs Dexter axles, empty tanks, two batteries, 2 propane tanks. We travel pretty light compared to everyone else we camp with. Front axle was 3480 rear axle was 3520. 7000lbs You figure 800ish on the hitch. I am a little over. The axles are right at capacity. I have been like that since 2012, probably heavier in the past as we got rid of some stuff we never use. I went with load range D tires this last time vice the load range C it came with. It did make a difference in sidewall bulge and how the trailer handled over bumps.
ls1mike 10/25/19 07:30pm Tow Vehicles
RE: 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton

Many people view a gas truck with 150K miles as worn out. A diesel with that milage is viewed as broken in. What people? Do you have a Facebook page? I will just talk GM here but over at the GMT 800 board which is HUGE compared to this place 150,000 is just broken in on an LS based gasser. There are threads every week about high mileage gassers. You should take a look if you get a chance. This isn't 1960. I am not saying a gasser will out last a diesel but there are literally 10's of thousands of 4.8, 5.3 and 6.0 trucks with well over 250,000 miles on them putting in work everyday on the original engine and transmission. They have a running thread for gas trucks with over 500,000 miles on them and its a pretty good size list.
ls1mike 10/24/19 07:04am Tow Vehicles
RE: 2020 GM/Chevy gas 6.6L max towing test

I wonder if it fails to downshift because at that altitude the engine doesn’t generate enough torque for the transmission to sense a downshift point I wonder if sensors saw high temperatures after miles of full throttle and dialed back the power to save the engine or transmission. In this video and the 2017 gasser video they mention all temps were in spec. But that is just it. It could have defueled or cut power to keep the temps within spec. Diesel do the same thing. The Ram 6.4L did it as well the last Ike run they had. This 6.6L could have forced the truck into lower rpms to keep the temps at safe levels. Right, but that is not a parameter in the transmission field. There are something close to 450 parameters for the 6L80E/6L90E. For the 6L80E and 6L90E time and pressure are the tow big ones. I will hook up the Laptop next time I tow and see. I don't remember reading about or being able to mess defueling in the program. I have HP Tuners. That thing is great if you understand it. It has really woke the Caprice up with the cam swap. I don't plan on messing with the truck at all. It is a great diagnostic tool too. Like I know guys who remove torque management. Not really worth it to me, I don't feel like rebuilding the 6L80E in the Caprice every other season.
ls1mike 10/21/19 09:06am Tow Vehicles
RE: 2020 GM/Chevy gas 6.6L max towing test

I wonder if it fails to downshift because at that altitude the engine doesn’t generate enough torque for the transmission to sense a downshift point I wonder if sensors saw high temperatures after miles of full throttle and dialed back the power to save the engine or transmission. In this video and the 2017 gasser video they mention all temps were in spec. I am going to look at the Caprices tune tonight. It is pretty similar to the truck believe it or not. I know the Caprice looks at speed/rpms/time/MAF/TPS. I will have to look and see it temp is part of it. I really messed withe Caprice when I got rid of the AFM cam and installed an LS9 cam.
ls1mike 10/21/19 08:39am Tow Vehicles
RE: 2020 GM/Chevy gas 6.6L max towing test

At the end of the test they were going 2600 RPM at 25 mph. Truck wouldn't downshift. I wonder what would have been different if they put it in manual. To be honest I never put mine in manual, but I have not towed the IKE. I use manual mode in a auto tranny for that type towing. I made a living for over 11 straight years with manual transmission LDTs so I know better than the ECM which gear to select and at what point a gear shift is or isn't needed. Of course these test are better suited to for those that don't want to do the thinking/shifting for which gear is needed at that moment. Results would be different up and down hill using manual mode by a experienced operator........or a smarter engine/tranny operating ECM. I just have not had to use it in this truck. They old truck was 4 speed. I would leave it in third sometimes. I am not towing really heavy and here in Washington we don't get anything that high in elevation so it stays in the correct gear.
ls1mike 10/21/19 08:35am Tow Vehicles
RE: 2020 GM/Chevy gas 6.6L max towing test

There should be a caveat with N/A gaser tow ratings such as you loose X pounds of rating every Y feet above elevation instead of just saying it can tow 16,000 lbs. Unless doing 25 mph at 5,000 rpm without any power to pass is your idea of towing. At the end of the test they were going 2600 RPM at 25 mph. Truck wouldn't downshift. I wonder what would have been different if they put it in manual. To be honest I never put mine in manual, but I have not towed the IKE. I wonder if it fails to downshift because at that altitude the engine doesn’t generate enough torque for the transmission to sense a downshift point Based off the tuning I have done with my cam upgrades in my 2000 WS6 and my 2014 Caprice which is a 6.0/6L80E so similar. I will bet it is the amount of air the computer sees VS throttle position VS actual RPM.
ls1mike 10/21/19 07:26am Tow Vehicles
RE: F150 Tire time

Goodyear Wrangler All Terrain with Kevlar works great on mine. Or do you want the lowest possible price? Best value I just put Cooper Discoverer AT3 XLTs on my 2017 1 ton gasser. I have about 4000 miles on them It was 1000 bucks all the way around. I really like them. It I had it to again they make a step below these that are similar but cheaper I would have went with those.
ls1mike 10/20/19 05:45pm Tow Vehicles
RE: 2020 GM/Chevy gas 6.6L max towing test

Well if they weren’t using the right gear then that is part o the issue. 2600rpms uphill at altitude with a big trailer? ROFL. Double that and that’s about where she should be running for that exercise. Yeah it goofy. For some reason the truck didn't shift. It did the same thing in the 2017 video I posted. If you shift to manual you can keep it right where it needs to be. You are right the truck needs at least 4.10s
ls1mike 10/18/19 01:02pm Tow Vehicles
RE: 2020 GM/Chevy gas 6.6L max towing test

There should be a caveat with N/A gaser tow ratings such as you loose X pounds of rating every Y feet above elevation instead of just saying it can tow 16,000 lbs. Unless doing 25 mph at 5,000 rpm without any power to pass is your idea of towing. At the end of the test they were going 2600 RPM at 25 mph. Truck wouldn't downshift. I wonder what would have been different if they put it in manual. To be honest I never put mine in manual, but I have not towed the IKE. They were screaming at 5,000 rpm most of the way when they were taking the noise measurement and they lost speed when it up-shifted until they got too low and it downshifted to high rpms again. In order to maintain a decent speed, it would have needed to be in the upper 5,000 rpm. That is not my idea of towing. GM should decrease the tow ratings for that altitude. It was and 5000 RPM is fine for a gasser. That is what they are designed to do. I know some people are uncomfortable with that. The problem is the further they went the lower rpms went and by the time they hit the top they were at 2600 rpm. I don't know why it wouldn't down shift. In manual you could have. I don't know what algorithm GM is using for down shifting. Thing also needs 4.10s.
ls1mike 10/18/19 01:00pm Tow Vehicles
RE: 2020 GM/Chevy gas 6.6L max towing test

There should be a caveat with N/A gaser tow ratings such as you loose X pounds of rating every Y feet above elevation instead of just saying it can tow 16,000 lbs. Unless doing 25 mph at 5,000 rpm without any power to pass is your idea of towing. At the end of the test they were going 2600 RPM at 25 mph. Truck wouldn't downshift. I wonder what would have been different if they put it in manual. To be honest I never put mine in manual, but I have not towed the IKE.
ls1mike 10/18/19 12:28pm Tow Vehicles
RE: 2020 GM/Chevy gas 6.6L max towing test

They definitely went all out with the weight. As far as I can tell the last gasser test they did was 11K lbs. 16K is a big trailer for a gas truck at that elevation. I'm not surprised it slowed down as much as it did at the top. Especially since it refused to downshift...they said it held the gear all the way down to 2000rpm. The 6.6 is a little bigger than the 6.0, but the torque peak is still at 4000rpm. I'll be curious to see how the old 6.4 Hemi with the new 8speed does with that kind of weight. Probably not well. Defiantly looking forward to the new Ford 7.3 test as well. They tested a 2017 2500HD 6.0 6 speed 4.10s with 13,500 2017 2500HD 13,500lbs on the Ike Long story short. 13 brake applications on the way down. 10:20 to get to the top.
ls1mike 10/18/19 12:18pm Tow Vehicles
RE: 2020 GM/Chevy gas 6.6L max towing test

Weird....this turned into a gas v diesel debate, whoda thunk it? If the General even halfway thought 6 speed and 3.73s was the best way to show off their new big boy gasser tow pig then whoever decided that should be fired. Back to your regularly scheduled banter..... I am not sure why the 3.73s. The rest of the Gas 3/4 ton and up GM trucks from 2014 until 2019 have 4.10's. Mine does.
ls1mike 10/18/19 11:22am Tow Vehicles
RE: 2020 GM/Chevy gas 6.6L max towing test

Didn't mean to start it. I usually stay out of these, but some people on here think a 1 ton diesel dually is required to move a tear drop trailer... :)
ls1mike 10/17/19 04:33pm Tow Vehicles
RE: 2020 GM/Chevy gas 6.6L max towing test

Not disparaging your lack of concern about getting rear ended, by going slow, that’s not a high likelihood concern, I agree. But 18 over Tiger mtn I think is the most unsafe road in the state by stats. I’ve seen more terrible accidents on 18 between Hobart and I 90 then most other highways combined around here. And it’s not out of line to presume some of it has to do with the speed differential of vehicles on that road. Still not a “should buy a diesel” issue. I agree, 18 may have been an extreme example. My least favorite road to drive in any of my vehicles. People are really impatient and it really needs to be revamped. Lots of semis using it to get to 90 from I-5.
ls1mike 10/17/19 10:24am Tow Vehicles
RE: 2020 GM/Chevy gas 6.6L max towing test

I can't believe people stressing over 3 and a half minutes. I towed all over with an 89 1 ton Big Block Chevy TBI for years and at times was down to 12mph. We are talking the IKE. For someone like me who tows 7500 to 8000 lbs 15 to 20 times year and won't daily drive a truck this thing would work just fine. 10,000 to 15,000 dollars is not worth 3 and a half minutes to me. Lets be realistic, anyone who tows 16,000 lbs up and down the IKE on the regular is not buying a gasser anyway. It is not just about 3 and half minutes. That was just one up hill section of many of having to hear an engine whine at 5k which gets tiring. It is also about having the power to spare when you need to pass. I used to think the same way you did until my old 4.6L F150. It was "just enough" until I was stuck behind a semi truck for what seemed like forever on a two lane road doing less than 45 mph because I did not have power to pass him when a passing lane opened. I would rather arrive at camp refreshed than with my nerves shot. Also, a diesel does not cost $15k so I am not sure where you are getting that number from. If you count the fuel savings and resale/trade-in value, the difference is less than a few grand and in some cases like mine it is in the diesel's favor. If I traded my truck in today going by local trade-in value, the 6.4L gas version my truck would have cost me over $500 more accounting for fuel cost, preventative maintenance cost, taxes, interest, registration, and resale/trade-in value. My truck would be more expensive than the 5.7L version by a grand. Certainly is 10 to 15000 dollars more here in Washington state. Place I picked up my truck had two new trucks on the lot. One diesel one gasser, same options 12,000 dollars difference. You might not like the sound of 5k doesn't mean it isn't doing what it is supposed to. Again. Right tool for the job, you don't need diesel to lug around 7000 to 10000lbs, 16000 sure. Like I said if you are running the Ike everyday or daily driving you will want the diesel. No one in there right mind is going to buy a gasser to pull 16,000lbs regularly. Yeah, but calculate total cost of ownership with a release/trade-in value at the end of 100k or 150k like I did below. You will find that even if you don't tow at all, the difference in cost is nowhere near that. https://i.postimg.cc/4NM2G2wL/5-7-vs-6-4-vs-6-7-2.png height=650 width=550 I'm interested in your truck prices, oil changes, fuel filter changes and various other fixes. Doesn't change the fact the overall purchase price is cheaper. Everyone's fuel mileage and maintenance varies. Trucks prices are based on my trucks MSRP and the other trucks MSRP were minus the difference in the diesel option. I confirmed them when I went to build a truck on Ram's website. Oil and fuel filter changes on a Cummins are every 15k no matter what so that doesn't change and it comes with a 100k mile engine warranty. Over all price isn't cheaper as you can see in my chart(unless you are referring to up front price?). The mileage is an average of over a million miles and hundreds of members posting to Fuelly.com. Yeah, one would probably be able to get better or worse fuel mileage depending on their driving style, but it would better or worse than average regardless of what engine you are using since it is your driving style that is making the difference so it makes that argument a moot point. Your argument may be valid for GM gassers versus diesels, but not all diesels. You would only have yourself to blame in that case for narrowing yourself to one brand. I don't disagree with your last statement, and yes I talking about initial purchase price.
ls1mike 10/17/19 10:02am Tow Vehicles
RE: 2020 GM/Chevy gas 6.6L max towing test

But I need to try to justify to myself why my inferior truck was the superior choice for me to make. /gas truck owner Not at all, do you really think you need a diesel to tow 7500 to 8000lbs 15 to 20 times a year? If I exceed 10,000 I will certainly be looking at one, but for someone who does not daily drive their truck and isn't towing more than 10,000lbs regularly it is not needed.
ls1mike 10/17/19 09:40am Tow Vehicles
RE: 2020 GM/Chevy gas 6.6L max towing test

I can't believe people stressing over 3 and a half minutes. I towed all over with an 89 1 ton Big Block Chevy TBI for years and at times was down to 12mph. We are talking the IKE. For someone like me who tows 7500 to 8000 lbs 15 to 20 times year and won't daily drive a truck this thing would work just fine. 10,000 to 15,000 dollars is not worth 3 and a half minutes to me. Lets be realistic, anyone who tows 16,000 lbs up and down the IKE on the regular is not buying a gasser anyway. It is not just about 3 and half minutes. That was just one up hill section of many of having to hear an engine whine at 5k which gets tiring. It is also about having the power to spare when you need to pass. I used to think the same way you did until my old 4.6L F150. It was "just enough" until I was stuck behind a semi truck for what seemed like forever on a two lane road doing less than 45 mph because I did not have power to pass him when a passing lane opened. I would rather arrive at camp refreshed than with my nerves shot. Also, a diesel does not cost $15k so I am not sure where you are getting that number from. If you count the fuel savings and resale/trade-in value, the difference is less than a few grand and in some cases like mine it is in the diesel's favor. If I traded my truck in today going by local trade-in value, the 6.4L gas version my truck would have cost me over $500 more accounting for fuel cost, preventative maintenance cost, taxes, interest, registration, and resale/trade-in value. My truck would be more expensive than the 5.7L version by a grand. Certainly is 10 to 15000 dollars more here in Washington state. Place I picked up my truck had two new trucks on the lot. One diesel one gasser, same options 12,000 dollars difference. You might not like the sound of 5k doesn't mean it isn't doing what it is supposed to. Again. Right tool for the job, you don't need diesel to lug around 7000 to 10000lbs, 16000 sure. Like I said if you are running the Ike everyday or daily driving you will want the diesel. No one in there right mind is going to buy a gasser to pull 16,000lbs regularly. Yeah, but calculate total cost of ownership with a release/trade-in value at the end of 100k or 150k like I did below. You will find that even if you don't tow at all, the difference in cost is nowhere near that. https://i.postimg.cc/4NM2G2wL/5-7-vs-6-4-vs-6-7-2.png height=650 width=550 I'm interested in your truck prices, oil changes, fuel filter changes and various other fixes. Doesn't change the fact the overall purchase price is cheaper. Everyone's fuel mileage and maintenance varies.
ls1mike 10/17/19 09:29am Tow Vehicles
RE: 2020 GM/Chevy gas 6.6L max towing test

Not about three and a half minutes. it is exposing your self to getting rear ended when crawling up a grade ant less than 45 mph! Also as Shiner Bock, stated power to pass a slower vehicle. It is nice to have the power to pass a slower vehicle on a two when the opportunity arrives. Pulled a pass like that with the old 2001, pulling 12,300#. So you are in Oregon. You ever travel Highway 18 or Snoqualmie in Washington state? Tons of large trucks going slower than that I can't remember the last time I saw one get rear ended. This past summer I followed my buddy of Snoqualmie pass with he 1999 7.3 he was well under 40 mph. I just hung out behind him no issues. I could have went around him no problem, but there wasn't a need to.
ls1mike 10/17/19 09:24am Tow Vehicles
RE: 2020 GM/Chevy gas 6.6L max towing test

I can't believe people stressing over 3 and a half minutes. I towed all over with an 89 1 ton Big Block Chevy TBI for years and at times was down to 12mph. We are talking the IKE. For someone like me who tows 7500 to 8000 lbs 15 to 20 times year and won't daily drive a truck this thing would work just fine. 10,000 to 15,000 dollars is not worth 3 and a half minutes to me. Lets be realistic, anyone who tows 16,000 lbs up and down the IKE on the regular is not buying a gasser anyway. It is not just about 3 and half minutes. That was just one up hill section of many of having to hear an engine whine at 5k which gets tiring. It is also about having the power to spare when you need to pass. I used to think the same way you did until my old 4.6L F150. It was "just enough" until I was stuck behind a semi truck for what seemed like forever on a two lane road doing less than 45 mph because I did not have power to pass him when a passing lane opened. I would rather arrive at camp refreshed than with my nerves shot. Also, a diesel does not cost $15k so I am not sure where you are getting that number from. If you count the fuel savings and resale/trade-in value, the difference is less than a few grand and in some cases like mine it is in the diesel's favor. If I traded my truck in today going by local trade-in value, the 6.4L gas version my truck would have cost me over $500 more accounting for fuel cost, preventative maintenance cost, taxes, interest, registration, and resale/trade-in value. My truck would be more expensive than the 5.7L version by a grand. Certainly is 10 to 15000 dollars more here in Washington state. Place I picked up my truck had two new trucks on the lot. One diesel one gasser, same options 12,000 dollars difference. You might not like the sound of 5k doesn't mean it isn't doing what it is supposed to. Again. Right tool for the job, you don't need diesel to lug around 7000 to 10000lbs, 16000 sure. Like I said if you are running the Ike everyday or daily driving you will want the diesel. No one in there right mind is going to buy a gasser to pull 16,000lbs regularly. I stand by my original argument. I pull 7800lbs 15 to 20 times a year all over the west coast. Vantage, 4th of July Pass, Continental Divide. No issues with that weight and a gasser. My 17 is way better than the 02. I don't need the diesel to maintain highway speeds.
ls1mike 10/17/19 09:18am Tow Vehicles
RE: 2020 GM/Chevy gas 6.6L max towing test

I can't believe people stressing over 3 and a half minutes. I towed all over with an 89 1 ton Big Block Chevy TBI for years and at times was down to 12mph. We are talking the IKE. For someone like me who tows 7500 to 8000 lbs 15 to 20 times year and won't daily drive a truck this thing would work just fine. 10,000 to 15,000 dollars is not worth 3 and a half minutes to me. Lets be realistic, anyone who tows 16,000 lbs up and down the IKE on the regular is not buying a gasser anyway.
ls1mike 10/17/19 07:51am Tow Vehicles
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