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RE: Thinking about downsizing to a B
Winnebago makes the 24' Era M on a Sprinter chassis with a floor plan including a dry bath and a bed in a slide.
Leisure Travel started making this floor plan in 2013 and Winnebago copied it in the next year or two. There should be used models of both out there.
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mumkin
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11/25/19 08:58am |
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RE: Thinking about downsizing to a B
Thank you. I really want a dry bath and realize that’s a rarity. I love the Pleasure Way Pursuit at 22 feet long, but it is a Ford. Is there another class B similar to the Pursuit but diesel?
Of course, the Pursuit is a Class C. A friend of mine had this rig and just loved it. My first rig was a Ford E350 and I so hated the handling that I swore no more Fords. LOL (though a Transit is a possibility) But she swore that the E450 handled as well as her Sprinter rig... which she dumped because of constant repairs.
Of course, PW doesn't make the Pursuit any more. Leisure Travel made a true Class B on the Sprinter with a wet bath... BUT... it has a slide. There is such limited geography in a Class B that to have a bed, it needed to be a sofa in a slide.
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mumkin
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11/24/19 08:10pm |
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RE: Thinking about downsizing to a B
The reality is that Class B rigs with a dry bath are rare as hen's teeth. Perhaps you just look at the small Class C rigs like Leisure Travel or Pleasureway. Those two are the top of the line, but there are more reasonably priced small Class C rigs around 25ft that may have a dry bath. On Chevy, Sprinter, and Promaster, if you prefer to avoid Ford.
But if you are thinking of short trips by yourself, you could think about just dealing with a wet bath. It's not that bad short term. LOL
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mumkin
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11/24/19 09:17am |
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RE: Hymer Sunlight Van 1 purchase
Is what you are referring to as an “under hood generator” actually one of Balmar’s alternator/regulator systems? Their “regulators” are actually multi-stage charge controllers, and would be similar to a DC-DC converter, except that they are connected directly to the alternator rather than the starting battery.
:):)
The underhood "generator" is actually a second large alternator such as are used in ambulances. It is set up to charge the house battery system. My rig has standard AGMs, so the regulator is part of the alternator. If there are lithiums, their more complicated system uses the balmar regulator. Originally Roadtrek was getting them directly from balmar. (I even spoke to them when I needed to reset the one on my 170 after I dumped the lithium system and went back to AGMs) The large alternators are provided by Nation's Starter in Missouri and at some point Nation's starting working directly with Balmar and supplied RT with both. Makes more sense that way...
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mumkin
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11/14/19 08:50am |
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RE: Buying a Class B, not in my city or STATE. Ideas?
The reason is obvious as we see the daily repeated rounds of the Amazon delivery vans, which are now omnipresent in urban areas.
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mumkin
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11/13/19 09:00am |
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RE: Hymer Sunlight Van 1 purchase
Good to hear that it all worked out in the end. Nice to hear that Camping World took care of you, but it seemed to have taken a significant amount of ... nudging. LOL It shouldn't be that hard, which is why I like dealing with my small family dealership.
There will still be a learning curve. But the good thing about the FB pages is that you can almost always find someone online for quick help... or their extensive file sections.
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mumkin
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11/13/19 08:49am |
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RE: RoadTrek 200
Any idea what kind of mileage a class B gets?
I think I saw 15 MPG??????
Depends on the platform used... length... gas or diesel...heaviness of driver's foot.
I've had 3 gas Class B's and got 15-19 mpg average.
Some of the diesel Sprinters owners report 18-23 or so.
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mumkin
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10/26/19 09:04am |
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RE: We are back!
Odd how it wasn't the whole board... just a few branches were down.
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mumkin
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10/08/19 08:24pm |
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RE: 2008 Great West Classic Elite
I don't recall the "Classic Elite." When I bought mine in 2004 there was the Classic and the Classic Supreme. Anyway I assume that it was the one without the bubble top. And also as I recall, the Ford 350 didn't have the V-10 at GWV. My 2004 on the E-350 was a V-8.
I got 11-12 mpg in town and 13-16 on the highway depending on the winds and topography. I almost never went over 65 mph because it was such a horrible handling thing.
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mumkin
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09/27/19 07:19pm |
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RE: Down to Road trek?
If you are considering a used Roadtrek... and there are lots of great ones still out there, this is one of the best places to start shopping:
Roadtrek International
Of course there are quite a few older Pleasureways and Great West Vans around too.
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mumkin
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09/07/19 06:18pm |
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RE: Roadtrek 190 Popular
You might try this link.
Cheers.
That was 2007... only 12 years ago. LOL Maybe the person who was making them is still working.
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mumkin
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08/24/19 07:22pm |
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RE: Hymer Sunlight Van 1 purchase
You really need to go over to Facebook where there are many users of this system and they can walk you through the dos and don'ts of running them. I stayed with AGMs because I'm just not into long learning curves anymore. LOL The only detail that I can pick out of your description with confidence is that you can never run the AC and microwave at the same time.
I would suggest that you also join the Aktiv Owners and Wannabees because they are mostly all Hymer owners and they have totally deconstructed these systems, put them back together with the changes needed... and they need quite a few changes... and are very helpful. There is also a group just for the Ecotrek systems. Since I don't own one, I haven't joined it.
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mumkin
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08/21/19 06:46am |
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RE: Roadtrek 190 Popular
With the death of the old Roadtrek company, and the fact that the new owner, Rapido, is not planning to continue the Chevy models, I'd say that your best bet is a local cabinet maker.
I had both the wardrobe and the armoire in my 170. Both provided lots of storage.
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mumkin
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08/21/19 06:38am |
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RE: Hymer Sunlight Van 1 purchase
I think you should be fine keeping just the fridge running. Glad it turned out well. There is a bit of learning curve, but the FB groups are good because at all hours there is usually someone online to answer a question.
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mumkin
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08/13/19 07:59pm |
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RE: Hymer Sunlight Van 1 purchase
What the heck is a balmer? I tried to google it but could not find anything that made sense to me. Is it something to do with solar power?
Have Ted show you and explain it to you. The Balmar company makes a little controller that handles the underhood generator's charging to the lithium batteries. If it is installed inside of the fender (down near the UHG, which hangs quite low next to the passenger wheel), that isn't a good thing since it can cause early corrosion to the connectors.
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mumkin
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08/11/19 09:25pm |
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RE: Hymer Sunlight Van 1 purchase
Originally all of them drained to the ground (it is only water and a bit of soap), but this was changed with the newest models... or so I read. The bathroom water goes into the main black/gray tank.
This is one of the ways that they kept the labor to build one of these to one hour. LOL As Jim Hammill bragged on FB...
Good to see that you found the FB page. You might also want to join the Hymer Aktiv Owners group which has a number of owners who are better at the tech in these rigs than most of the techs at EGHNA were. They organize meet-ups around North America to help get the tech end of these vans functioning properly and safely. When you are orphans, you have to do a lot of the work yourself. :C
Luckily you can do most of it, but these lithium/balmar/UHG/solar systems require a few tweaks.
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mumkin
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08/11/19 06:58am |
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RE: Ford Nugget
Perhaps they are referring to the bed in the pop-top
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mumkin
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08/08/19 07:21am |
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RE: Hymer Sunlight Van 1 purchase
Very good!! Ted took me through two walk throughs on new rigs at his previous job. (on my Libero and my 170) Hopefully all will be up and working for you. Take notes and/or even film the more complicated stuff like running the lithium battery system.
Be sure to join the Facebook page.
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mumkin
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08/06/19 07:45pm |
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RE: Ford Nugget
They can't bring this rig as we don't have that van here in the US to do it on.
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mumkin
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08/06/19 07:37pm |
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RE: Hymer Sunlight Van 1 purchase
Is this the Camping World NW of Minneapolis? They have one good tech there named Ted who has experience with Roadtrek vehicles and systems. The Sunlight is rather a stripped down Roadtrek. So he probably knows more than most of the staff there about their systems. I would request that he check things out for you before you leave. I would camp nearby to make sure that things are working properly before you head back to MI. There is a KOA not far away... and perhaps other campgrounds that I am not aware of. FB does have a Carado/Sunlight Owners group where you will find the most owners in one place. It should be a bargain price since it is now an orphan... well under $50K
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mumkin
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08/04/19 07:46pm |
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