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RE: happy
Party on Canadians!!
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mumkin
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07/01/22 07:35am |
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RE: Coachman Nova
Yes... Dean is a character... and a great guy, like everyone at LTV.
That is an impressive rig all around.
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mumkin
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05/18/22 08:13am |
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RE: Coachman Nova
I don't know what the out the door price is for the Coachman, but if you are looking for a rear bath, you might check out a used Leisure Travel Free Spirit SS model with the slide. They made them from 2013 to 2015 and there are usually a couple of them listed on RV Trader. ...
I agree this may be a better choice as far as rig quality. Although LTV no longer makes any Class B vehicles, most of their better dealers will still work on them... and Triple E/LTV are helpful people.
Thor now owns Coachman and their reputation for quality and warranty backup is one of the worst. But I do prefer the Promaster to the Sprinter, and the LTV also has a slide... another pro or con depending on people's preferences.
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mumkin
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05/16/22 04:49pm |
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RE: 2019 Roadtrek Zion
We found just the camper van we want but worried about the year of it. It’s a 2019 Roadtrek Zion. That is when it closed and then bought out by a different company. I understand the new company had to finish making the van that year and had possible electric problems. Should we keep looking or are we ok to buy this 2019 camper van?
Thank you for any help here.
I owned a 2019 Simplicity on a 2018 Promaster and Hymer bankrupted the company less than 5 months after I bought. I only had one warranty issue and it was taken care of by the supplier of the part and the labor was covered by Rapido - the new buyers good will short term limited warranty for those of us who lost our original coverage. So... I lost nothing.
The main reason I had no issues was that I had the simple traditional systems... suburban hot water heater... and AGM batteries. Your first question is which electrical system does it have? It could have either a large AGM (Northstar 182 ah) or the so called Eco Trek system with lithiums.
The original owner of this 2019 very likely had done the numerous fixes that were needed... may even have replaced the lithium series. Every new series has been a bit better than the previous.
That is what you need to know before purchase... which battery system... and what was done to upgrade if it is lithium.
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mumkin
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04/24/22 06:28pm |
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RE: Steering wheel positioning on a Class B
It is odd to most of us... that said, it didn't take any time to get used to it. But then, my 2 Promasters have been my only vehicle, so no switching back and forth. From what I have seen, it is mostly men that are all that bothered by it.
Not sure if a tilting wheel is included in all the updates to the 2022 models.
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mumkin
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04/12/22 08:28am |
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RE: Where is EVERYONE??
I guess I could've posted when I installed a couple of hooks to hang hats, shirts, etc. I could've taken some pictures and talked about it. Wasn't that exciting...
Thanks for the giggle. Lots of that on FB which is much of the appeal of the format for the new people.
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mumkin
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02/05/22 10:11am |
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RE: Where is EVERYONE??
There’s also a problem with every new poster being attacked and told ‘use the search function’. This site is most unwelcoming.
Probably the number one reason why this forum has been in its slow-death bed for a long time.
I haven't seen much of that on this branch of the forum.
I would say the number one reason is Facebook. You can find a group for nearly every model of class B. There will be dozens of owners with a rig exactly like yours... and probably with the same issues. This has been especially helpful for owners of Hymer/Roadtrek models and the growing pains of their unusual electrical systems. On a forum, you tend to have owners of multiple brands and systems... and half of the answers will not be relevant and are just confusing... especially with all the total newbies buying Class B's.
But generally speaking the Facebook system is a total pain in the backside to use because the same problems come up over and over, but last week's answers drift down the page quickly. There is a search option, but it is substandard. (I would estimate that for three years twice a week we had to explain how to correct the wiring error of Norcold on their fridges... speaking of companies with no quality control)
Sad to see the forum system die... but not much we can do to stop it.
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mumkin
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02/04/22 08:40am |
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RE: New class B
I'm confused what Dodge/RAM truck has a front wheel drive train? Not the pickup trucks. Is it juar a relabeling of the Fiat drive train like MB Sprinters being relabeled as Dodges for awhile?
The Promaster which is pretty much the most popular RV platform in the US right now... has front wheel drive. In Europe it is the Fiat Ducato. When MB bailed out of Dodge/Chrysler and sold it to Fiat, the Ram van division adopted the Ducato. Took the front wheel drive and inserted the Ram truck engine and drive train.
I've had two of them and love the way they drive.
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mumkin
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01/13/22 07:42pm |
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RE: New class B
I wonder if it is built like a C or like a B where the work has to be done inside the van body. $145k is a lot for that size MH. I don't know why someone has not made a one piece or two piece shell and just add the shell after the interior is finished. They should be able to get the price down to $100k like a small C.
It's definitely a Class C with the formed body. I believe that it is a one piece shell. I read that in one of the articles though accuracy may not be high in these intro articles.
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mumkin
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11/03/21 09:04am |
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RE: New class B
Google 'Wingamm Oasi 540 price'
https://www.businessinsider.com/popular-european-camper-van-rv-coming-to-the-us-2021-7
That article may have answered my question in that it said that the first year or two will be built in Italy. So it will be on the European platform. Once they switch to Promaster, they will need to re-work it to the US sizes since we don't have a 17'9" with 118 wb.
I also noted that it has a 3 system fridge. Ugh!! That added to a cassette toilet and no AC is going to limit its sales I expect. They brag about their long waiting list, but those are all people who haven't actually seen it yet. lol
I still wonder what adjustments they have to make to the van to get it approved in the US.
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mumkin
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11/02/21 09:12am |
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RE: New class B
That is the prototype 540 model that's here now showing in malls , NY and California. It's probably the one from the photo and video shoots.
I would assume that rather than a prototype, it is basically what they are selling in Europe. Still doesn't answer whether it is legal to import into the US without changes to comply with US laws.
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mumkin
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10/30/21 09:26am |
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RE: New class B
It’s a Fiat Ducato as per the emblems and wheel insignia.
Photos are all of the European versions. One wonders if this can be direct imported and comply with US laws. I suspect not...
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mumkin
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10/29/21 07:23pm |
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RE: New class B
I was told by a rep that certain car dealerships will be used to sell these rvs in the USA .
Orders will be taken in January with delivery expected sometime around May or June.
Not a good idea, IMO. It has been tried now and again in the past without much success and ended as quickly as it appeared. RV salesman are often useless in explaining and selling RVs, can't imagine how badly car salesman will do. It actually appears that they are making many of the same mistakes that Hymer did trying to break into the US market. (before they bought Roadtrek to get its dealership chain)
If you encounter this rep again, try to find out how this is being done as far as platform. Full build overseas on the Ducato or put on a Ram Promaster over here.
The apparent lack of an AC will likely kill it in the US market.
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mumkin
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10/29/21 09:33am |
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RE: New class B
No, certainly no van is perfect, but save the accolades for something more deserving .... if in fact such a vehicle actually exists.
Just wait until some owners of Jeep Renegades find out what they really have is a Fiat 500X in different clothing.
You started out complaining about the Fiat engine/drivetrain - which I pointed out has been totally replaced by Ram with its engine/drivetrain from its pick-ups. So now you are morphing over to Jeeps... totally not relevant here.
As someone who has owned a Promaster for going on 4 years, who has dozens of friends who own and love theirs, I would say that I have the right to give it the accolades that it has earned for many of us RV owners.
Our usage is not the same as commercial users. We are not driving all day, every day, stop/start, and the commercial drivers are usually not the owners, so little care is taken. My Promasters have been as trouble free as my Chevy models with a much better drive and an interior large enough to stand up in and comfortably sleep sideways.
And this is what most of us want in a camper. YMMV
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mumkin
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10/28/21 06:20pm |
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RE: New class B
A Ram ProMaster IS a Fiat van -- Google it. I thought they looked very similar, but not until I Googled it were my suspicions confirmed.
Of course it is... partially. Fiat owns Dodge/Chrysler. In Europe it is called a Ducato. That is well known and never been a secret. The Ducato is the number one platform for RVs in Europe.
But the Fiat drivetrain and engine were replaced with the Ram truck system for the US market. That too is well known if one cares to know.
You can see my list of rigs owned over the years on my signature... a Ford E350, a Chevy 3500, a Chevy 1500, a Promaster 2500, and a Promaster 1500. The Promaster is by far the best one of the bunch. It drives great with the front wheel drive, gets good gas mileage, provides a wonderfully roomy interior, and has been very dependable. What more can one ask in an RV platform?
Don't let your prejudices against a product that was produced and sold back in the 60's and 70's affect your judgement on these vans. Yes, of course, they have some issues... as does the Sprinter and Transit.
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mumkin
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10/28/21 09:39am |
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RE: New class B
Interesting unit. Nice floor plan -- sleek contemporary look.
The only thing that would concern me is the Fiat drivetrain. Certainly not the most trouble-free in the industry.
But it says "Dodge Promaster" in which case it isn't a Fiat drivetrain. It is the Ram pick-up drive train and engine.
But as I said, that is my big question on these rigs, as I posted above.
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mumkin
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10/27/21 07:37pm |
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RE: New class B
Thus far I have seen no answer as to whether they are importing it built or building it here. It says "Dodge Promaster" which doesn't exist since it is a Ram. And all the photos are of the European Ducato which looks way better than our old mid-20s style Promaster.
It says the 118wb and 17'9" - but the US 118wb is 16'3" ... and the longer wheel base 1500 is the one over 17" ...
So, since I first saw the info on this van, it still isn't all that clear what exactly will be on the market here.
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mumkin
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10/26/21 10:29pm |
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RE: New Member in Class B Group
I will still try a fire stick.
Most campgrounds specifically ban streaming (and thus a Firestick). Nearly all will barely open a website or send an email, no less stream/
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mumkin
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10/21/21 05:57pm |
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RE: New Member in Class B Group
I am wondering about using the Amazon Firestick when using cable tv at the camp ground. Will it connect over campground cable TV .
Yes, it is definitely a Class C, but as to the firestick, it requires internet, and campground wifi is hopelessly weak and doesn't allow streaming. I use my AT&T phone with a 40GB hotspot for streaming.
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mumkin
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10/21/21 09:11am |
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RE: Class B that sleeps 4 adults?
RV Trader Class B Sleeps 4
That's from RV Trader. I set two filters - Class B and Sleeping Capacity 4. Can't figure it out from the pics though.
All it gave was an LTV Class C. The seating for 2 at the dinette is riding sideways, which some consider a safety issue. It makes into a narrow bed in the Serenity... which may only be for one person.
If you want a Class B that fits that description, you will likely be looking for an older model. There were models that came with 4 captain's chairs. The newer Roadtreks can seat a couple of people on the rear sofas (which are VERY bouncy), but there is not sleeping space for 4 unless you have the pop top.
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mumkin
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10/20/21 09:21am |
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