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I'm not sure that I am proud to say it but I am a Kodaik owner. You can see what I have in my sig. So far so good! TT has been out on 6 trips and that is it for the summer. Getting ready to winterize now. It is going back to the dealer to be Winterized for free. Got 3 years of it for free when I negotiated the deal. Believe me though the dealer is going to check the frame on mine good. What they put me through to get the right one ordered they don't want to hear one negative thing from me anymore. I do have a few minor warranty things for them to address. I looked under mine today to see if I could see any frame issues and all looks good to me. The only thing that has really bugged me is that the fresh water tank sags when it is filled up. Not enough support in the flimsy single cross member under the tank. That will be taken care of or I will be raising Holy H*ll.
This whole frame thing has me tweaked. I thought I did enough research on the trailers when we purchased this one and now look what is going on. Up until this year we always saw quite a few Kodiaks around on the road and in the campgrounds. Dealer tells me that they are one of their best sellers and they carry at least 5 different lines. Like you said the resale value just went to s*it on all the trailers with Norco frames. Such is my luck!


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How can I tell if I have a Norco frame?

My tt is a 2005 jayfeather 26s. Nothing in the paperwork says anything about Norco.
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05chevy53 wrote:

I watched the above video link...the reporter did not "embellish" anything.


Wellllll....yes, in a subtle way, they did. They showed several different trailer brands/models obviously being bought and hauled away by FEMA, all the while talking about the defective frames in the background. Kind of implying, ALL those trailers could be a potential problem. Nothing could be further from the truth.

For one example, notice they specifically showed a Jayco Eagle model. I can PROMISE you, the Eagle (as well as many other models they showed) do NOT have one of those BAL frames underneath it. The Eagle is one of Jayco's top-of-the-line models, and has a conventional frame under it, not a lightweight one.

You know, they made this whole story about FEMA buying all these trailers, that supposedly have a weak frame. Guess what FEMA does with these trailers? They are hauled once, straight to where they are needed for temporary housing, set up (relatively) permanent there, and are not moved again until no longer needed. Given that use, its quite possible none of the hurricane victims would ever have a problem with the frame anyway, since the trailer will not travel at all. Now, the poor soul that buys it later on used, that will be a different story.

Once again, don't get me wrong. I am not suggesting that this problem does not exist, nor am I condoning the manufacturer's behavior, of basically denying this problem. In a way its good that this came out in the news, it will make the guilty manufacturers address this issue. We all know RV manufacturers in general need a few good wake-up calls like this.

Sad part that I hate is, due to the subtle way the news story implied so many different trailers brands are affected (that are not), it will hurt a lot of other (innocent) RV manufacturers and their customers as well. This is what frequently happens when the news/media get involved in these things. In order to make it 'news-worthy', they have to imply the problem is much bigger than it really is.


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Are there any reports of problems with the new aluminum frames being used today? I know they claim that the aluminum frame is stronger than steel, but, if that were true, then, why are auto frames still steel? Why isn't an aircraft carrier made of aluminum instead of steel?

Also, is this part of the frames that some companies mention use the same construction methods as in the Hummer with the riveted box connections?

I think I will stick to good old boxed steel frames myself. The less holes punched or drilled the better, also. From this picture, the frame looks more like an erector set than a true frame.

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You take chances with whatever you buy,be it a TT,truck,or whatever.
There's always that possibility that one guy can go out and buy,for
example,a new '05 Ford F-150 and there not be a thing wrong with the
truck,and the next guy come along and buy the next one on the lot,
and wind up with brake system problems that ends up causing a wreck.
And like you say,the media gets a hold of it,and has a ball plastering it all over the news about the problem and Ford's sales go down the tubes. The same with a TT,motorhome,etc. Though I do not yet own an RV of any kind,I will not let this news stop me from purchasing one,...be it Jayco,Aerolite,or whatever. While we are on the subject,what kind of problems are the bent frames causing? Are
they,the manufacturers,saying what it is.

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I work in the steel industry. Just looking at that frame from above pic, I can reasonably assume that it's junk. Give me good 'ol welded structural steel tubing & beams!
These frames won't be around much longer. I really can't believe the designers came up w/ that for the intended purpose. No thanks. Some body really screwed up.


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That sure looks like my keystone zeppelin frame. My zepp is 30'11" from hitch to bumper.


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I'll also post this in the 1st thread. Here is what the frame in question looks like:
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It is a stamped frame with oval hole cut-out running along the sides.

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Posted: 09/29/05 09:52pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

oldbanjo wrote:

How can I tell if I have a Norco frame?

My tt is a 2005 jayfeather 26s. Nothing in the paperwork says anything about Norco.
Rick


Hi Rick. Our frame has BAL visibly stamped on the top of the frame in the area between the front of the trailer and hitch. You might try looking there.

You might find out on the Jayfeather site or in paperwork that came with your trailer.

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Though I just posted a reply,I just had a question come to mind. How do you tell if the frame is Norco,or BAL? And what does BAL stand for anyway?

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