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DocInBird

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Jackie has an important point. Why would the dogs run out the door? A little training goes a long ways...
If you like to set up camp in wilderness areas, I suggest good outside lighting to check out the situation. I have some rather bright lights on both sides and the rear of my my, on separate switch from my "polite" light under the main awning. There is also the spotlight beam on the front roof with remote control (750,000 candle power).
One of the fun games Orson knows is how to his various barks, growls, and snarls on command. He can be very convincing, even though it is a game to him. I go for the very very deeeep growl, followed by the snarl, before I open the door and even then after I have scoped things out.
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ed6713

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We have a hard & fast rule. The door is never opened until all dogs, three in our case, are on their leads.
Had a dog get spooked at a rest area once and bolt past me through the opened door. Got her back OK, but never again.
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Code2High

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The whole story sounds like the details have been changed to protect the feelings of the careless.
You've got people who are fulltimers in the campground, letting their dogs run off leash. We all know this is a no-no. This is not boondocking and dogs at campgrounds/parks are supposed to be leashed. And if they are fulltiming at that site, they know what kind of wildlife is around. These things are discussed, by hosts, staff, neighbors.
A normal response...especially for a woman... who hears something she percieves as threatening outside at 3 am is NOT to open the door. That just doesn't make any sense, and if you opened the door, you'd crack it, not open wide enough for dogs to be running out. I have a gun with me at night, for pete's sake, and you wouldn't find ME opening a door to look out for noises. That's why God gave us windows, and flood lights.
More likely the dog wanted out, they let the dog out, the dog was eaten. The rest of the story was just a way to avoid saying "we let our little dog out off-leash alone in the middle of the night like idiots and it got snatched." Just my take on it. But then I've been told a lot of stories in my life.
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TTBeachBum

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What a horrible experience for those folks!
If DH answers door, I have Axel secure (even at home).
Wow very tragic.
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CA POPPY

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I'd never heard of Javalinas and thought maybe you guys were putting me on, you know, like snipe hunting. So I googled the word and came up with some kinda scary creature that looks like a cross between a coyote and a wild boar. Yikes! We have to teach our doggies to use the potty in the RV!
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CatandJim

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Judy........snipes!
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And yikes is right....them things is UGLY and mean looking!!
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19Sandie54

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Speaking of Javalinas...about 20+ years ago, when I was alot younger, I was at Canyon Lake with some friends and some of us were sitting pretty high up on some rocks overlooking the lake in this cove area when we heard some weird sort of snorting sound...turned around and there stood the biggest, ugliest Javalina we ever saw. I didn't have time to think, I just jumped into the lake and it was a long fall. Thankfully no one got hurt in the jump. This lake is way east of Phoenix.
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juliev

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We also saw alot of javalines at Davis Mtn State Park this past fall. We were really paranoid about taking the dogs out at night. If they had to pee after dark we stuck right to our campsight with the patio lights on and the two of us right next to them on short leashes!
We had a friend up here in Northern Minnesota that lost their poodle puppy to an eagle. It swooped up the pup right off the end of the dock with the owner less than 10 ft away.
This is something that I've been concerned with ever since we got the little dogs. Just about anywhere that you camp you need to be aware of the wildlife around you. Scorpions and rattlesnakes in the desert, wolves, mountain lions, coyotes, eagles in the mountains. Make sure you keep an eye on your pets at all times.
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Dernhelm

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newbietrailerqueen wrote: We just got back from The Ft. Davis Mtn area in Southwest Texas and the Ranger warned us about the Javalina's down there. The can be VERY aggressive and have actually attacked dogs while the owner was walking them at night. He told us that they have had dogs killed and maimed by them and not just little dogs.
That Ranger wasn't kidding. We were warned to put the dogs in the truck if javelina were around, and not to walk them after dark except in groups. They had killed a Standard poodle (those are huge) a few days before our arrival. They came down thru the campground every eve at dusk. This was at Chiricahua Natl. Monument in AZ.
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CatandJim

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Why is it that some have to place blame, criticize, and ponder about "what really happened" Sharon came here to share someone's experience and give us all something to think about. She may not know exactly what happened but then again she might. I can tell that knows what she was told about the dog's death, has empathy, and then wanted to share it with us to serve as a reminder.
A dog was killed, it is a tragedy and if anyone learns to do things differently and in turn the way they handle it is safer for them and their dog... then I would say, once again... Thanks Sharon for sharing the story.
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