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GPG52!

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We are fortunate enough to have two 5th wheel trailers
2014 Keystone Cougar 327 RES which we have now parked and use as a summer cottage
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2005 Keystone Cougar 285 EFS which is easier to tow and park.
2014 Ford F250 Super Duty
Weight at an MTO commercial scale (Ministry of Transportation Ontario)
Truck steering axle (front) 4,431 lbs
Truck rear axle trailer attached 9,480 lbs
Truck and trailer combo 16,799 lbs
Trailer only while attached to truck 7,474 lbs.
Both units were loaded from a return camping trip, two 30lbs propane tanks full, 2/3 potable water in holding tank. Grey and Black tanks empty which is our typical travel configuration


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GPG52! wrote:

We are fortunate enough to have two 5th wheel trailers
2014 Keystone Cougar 327 RES which we have now parked and use as a summer cottage
and
2005 Keystone Cougar 285 EFS which is easier to tow and park.
2014 Ford F250 Super Duty
Weight at an MTO commercial scale (Ministry of Transportation Ontario)
Truck steering axle (front) 4,431 lbs
Truck rear axle trailer attached 9,480 lbs
Truck and trailer combo 16,799 lbs
Trailer only while attached to truck 7,474 lbs.
Both units were loaded from a return camping trip, two 30lbs propane tanks full, 2/3 potable water in holding tank. Grey and Black tanks empty which is our typical travel configuration


There is NO WAY your rear axle is at 9489 with those trailers... IF so, you are WAY over your RAWR... My 2020 F359 has a RAWar of 7259... my 2915 F350 was 7100


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Newbee hitting the road. Figuring weight is crazy to me. Here are my numbers if someone with more brain power will look at them.
Ram 3500 dually 6.7 diesel scale weight front 5220
rear 3840

with 375res solitude attached front 5320
rear 7640
trailer axles 14,200
total weight 27,220

Trailer GVWR 16,800 Truck GCWR 30,000
Axle GAWR 7,000ea GVWR 14,000

Thanks for any opinions

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donroe123 wrote:

Newbee hitting the road. Figuring weight is crazy to me. Here are my numbers if someone with more brain power will look at them.
Ram 3500 dually 6.7 diesel scale weight front 5220
rear 3840

with 375res solitude attached front 5320
rear 7640
trailer axles 14,200
total weight 27,220

Trailer GVWR 16,800 Truck GCWR 30,000
Axle GAWR 7,000ea GVWR 14,000

Thanks for any opinions


I think you are fine! Just remove a complete clutch assembly from my tool box and I would be at or within SAE Ratings. You have PLENTY of room to grow.

You added weight to your front axle that's good. Your hitch must be forward of axle centerline.

Do you have the AISIN trans?
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donroe123 wrote:

Newbee hitting the road. Figuring weight is crazy to me. Here are my numbers if someone with more brain power will look at them.
Ram 3500 dually 6.7 diesel scale weight front 5220
rear 3840

with 375res solitude attached front 5320
rear 7640
trailer axles 14,200
total weight 27,220

Trailer GVWR 16,800 Truck GCWR 30,000
Axle GAWR 7,000ea GVWR 14,000

Thanks for any opinions


Well the TV is fine, but the GVWR on that 5er is 16,800# I calculate yours to be 18,100# so about 1,300# over GVWR, and you have your trailer axles maxed out.

Looks like you have 3,900# of stuff in the 5er, are you an anvil sales person??


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"Looks like you have 3,900# of stuff in the 5er, are you an anvil sales person??"

I have at least 5k of "Stuff" what does that make me?

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