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Thanks to all of your wonderful help my husband and I have decided to go with the tt or 5er route... now for your opinions on pros and cons here.
we went to Sagon RV today to look at some options and found a very impressive tt.
http://www.sagonrv.com/new-rv-for-sale.aspx?typeid=4&makeid=1704
The boys absolutely loved the ladder to the bunk area.

So what are your pros and cons. Have you had both?? We will have to get something to pull either way. Dh is talking passenger van....we will see. It would be nice for each of the kids to have their own row.
What would your recommend pulling a tt with? Which is the best truck for a fifth wheel?

What company is the best quality? Are tt really that much harder to tow than fifth wheels? How is set up? What about a week with no hookups? Is that possible in either?
Feel free to give us any and all that you have to offer. Ya'll have already been so helpful!!!
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A few companies make top quality trailers. Many companies make poor quality trailers. A few companies make truly junky trailers. You may get what you pay for if the cost is in quality instead of glitz.

No, the tt is not harder to tow than a 5er. The 5er is inherently more stable, but a tt is equally stable if used with either a Pullrite or Hensley hitch. The 5er puts about twice the weight on the truck, so more truck is needed just for that reason. Because the 5er is taller than a tt, it'll cause the tow vehicle to consume more fuel to fight that windage.

Set up with either is not a deal breaker. The week with no hookups is tough. A generator will keep the battery charged, but you'll run out of water and waste tank capacity unless you're very frugal with both.


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Haven't had a 5er yet, but have looked at a lot of them. We have a smaller trailer at present. 5th wheels have the advantage of the hitch being about at the driver's eye level, as well as the pivot point being over the truck's back axle, which gives the rig a better turning radius than a TT will. 5ers have the edge in room too, especially storage, and in a more homelike feel, IMO, but they require a big honkin' truck to pull them; a "1/2 ton" just will not do. Because of pin weight, which is much heavier than tongue weight of trailers, any pickup chosen to pull a 5th wheel needs to have a large payload capacity, and virtually no 1/2 tons (i.e. Ford F150, Chevy 1500, Toyota Tundra, etc.) will fit the bill. And of course, as you know, a van or SUV will definitely not! Depending on the size of the trailer, though, you may still need a larger truck as well.

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Posted: 12/15/07 09:15pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

JCWWBT wrote:

Dh is talking passenger van....we will see. It would be nice for each of the kids to have their own row.
What would your recommend pulling a tt with? Thanks!!!!

Lots of questions and lots to think about... it can get confusing.

The trailer you are looking at (if I am reading the specs. correctly) is 33 ft. long and almost 10,000 lbs GVWR. It also has a dry hitch weight of over 1,100 lbs.

This is a fairly large trailer and it will require a full sized truck to adequately tow it... especially with the weight of your family and some gear loaded in the truck.

My opinion is that you are looking at least at a 3/4 ton truck with either a diesel or big block V8 gas motor.

There may be some vans that could handle a rig like this (E350) but I am not well enough versed on them to give you solid advice.

Good luck. You are doing the right thing by doing lots of research.


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No 5er for us, WAY too many stairs.


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We are very close (days) from upgrading from an HTT to a TT, We looked at a couple of VERY nice 5'rs, but DW has a bad knee and the stairs to the bedroom area were difficult for her. Additionally, we like to carry a couple of 'yaks for when we can use them. The 5'er eliminates any simple way of carrying the 'yaks, a canoe, a small rowboat, or anything else that you would put on the TV roof.

This is the primary reason that we are going to a TT rather than the 5'er.


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BT Cruiser is the way to go - no hook-ups and you can use it while driving!


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I like the fact that the 5er/truck combination is some 6 ft shorter than truck and TT of the same length. The point made above about stairs in the 5er is very valid also and certainly favors the TT


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Whatever you decide on, be sure to properly match the TV to the RV. I made the mistake of believing the dealer and have the very poor combination in my signature until I pick up my new monster truck (Chevy 2500 HD 6.6 Duramax Diesel, Allison Tranny).

I've seen a few vans pulling TTs but they are not really designed for towing. Look at 3/4 ton pickups, that way you can tow either a TT or 5er.


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We own the truck to pull either a 5er or a TT .. we opted for a TT .. our McKenzie Starwood has enough headroom that my husband, who is 6'4" wearing his cowboy hat still has plenty of headroom. We have a Hensley and a single floorplan .. My knees could never hold up to the up and down required. Remember every time you have to go potty you have to go up and down the stairs, unless of course your in bed.

A 5er has a ton of space and it takes longer to heat and cool all that space.


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