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Posted: 10/22/08 01:57pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

It seems even Class B manufactures are not immune to the financial problems that all RV manufactures are experiencing. Can PleasureWay, LTV, and others be far behind.

http://news.therecord.com/article/432388

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They need to look at the European Class B's that are packing a 4 cylinder diesel and a six speed and getting 32 HWY. Now they would sell here with no problem.

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trop-a-cal wrote:

They need to look at the European Class B's that are packing a 4 cylinder diesel and a six speed and getting 32 HWY. Now they would sell here with no problem.


do they meet our emissions tests. crash tests, etc.? would it be possible to get service here?
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Posted: 10/22/08 03:00pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

This company is not far from us here in Ontario. The US down side creep outward.

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Bumpyroad wrote:

trop-a-cal wrote:

They need to look at the European Class B's that are packing a 4 cylinder diesel and a six speed and getting 32 HWY. Now they would sell here with no problem.


do they meet our emissions tests. crash tests, etc.? would it be possible to get service here?
bumpy


If Mercedes I5 engine could not meet US emission requirements, resulting in MB designing the new V6 which gets poorer mileage, I doubt that this smaller 4 cylinder diesel could meet US standards. As far as crash tests, safety etc, what is the size and weight of these vans. I believe sales here in North America are not down because of MPG figures, but because of a lack of available loans at dealers and plain fear that buyers have for their family finances.

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I think most of the Euro stuff are using Fiat vans with diesels in the less than 100 kw (130hp) range, and manual 5 speeds. Don't know if they would meet new emissions, but probably not. If they weigh anything close to what we are used to, I would think they would be dangerously slow for our roads, kind of like the old LeSharo. I saw a few of them on the roads in southern England, when I used to travel there for business, and the other drivers seem to be a lot more tolerant than US drivers. The roads are narrow,but have passing pulloffs, and even though the motorhomes held up traffic a bunch, all the other drivers seemed to tolerate them very well. "Caravaning" is a very big thing in the UK, several of the folks I worked with there were off almost every weekend, but they all had small trailers, not motorhomes.

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Posted: 10/22/08 05:27pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Bumpyroad wrote:

...crash tests, etc.?


Crash tests? I wasn't aware that any RVs underwent crash testing.

Where can I find these ratings?


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The way the article reads, it doesn't sound like this is a permanent layoff for the folks. More like an inventory adjustment to let the field supply of the vans go down to more manageable levels.


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280 out of 300 people laid off this year! Hope these people can make it through the Winter on unemployment...."IF" Canada has unemployment.

And I just read a thread a few weeks ago that "B's" were still selling, and the deals were not as good. Well, looks like that thread might have been just a bit off.

Of course, assuming Roadtrek makes it through this....there will be a lot less used 2009, and perhaps 2010 Roadtreks around 5-10 years from now. And I was hoping to pick up a 2009 in early 2012 when my cash flow gets better (start collecting S/S.)


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TMBLSN wrote:

Bumpyroad wrote:

...crash tests, etc.?


Crash tests? I wasn't aware that any RVs underwent crash testing.

Where can I find these ratings?

According to Roadtrek, RT's have been put through the following safety tests (I have not listed all safety tests):

Dynamic rollover testing (part of FMVSS 208)
Roof crush resistance testing (FMVSS 216)
Comparative side crush resistance testing (part of FMVSS 214)
Fuel system integrity crash testing (GM required due to moving gas tank)
Exhaust emission testing (required by California Air Resources Board)
Fuel System Evaporative Emission Test (required by California Air Resources Board
New occupant head protection testing (FMVSS 201U)
Seat belt testing (FMVSS 210)
Seating system testing (FMVSS 207)
Flammability testing (FMVSS 302)

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