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gonesouth

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Posted: 12/03/08 06:14pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

CCXNOLA, if you buy a NADa guide, get the CD edition - same price, much easier to search than the paper book. Also easier to take with you on the road....


Currently planning for retirement.....planning to build a small home in Nova Scotia for summers and someday year-round. Trying to sort out a good way to spend winters in central Florida as I can't drive anymore.

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Posted: 12/03/08 06:50pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Here is a nice 1995 BMC in your price range. About the 15th up from the bottom in the fore sale section.


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We made the move from a Southwind assembly line coach to a higher level DP several years ago. We actualy dropped down 3 model years. We loooked at a lot of used coaches and found a 1990 Foretravel for about 1/2 of your budget. We are on the west coast for the second time with it from New Hampshire. And have made two Florida round trips as well. We tow a car on a car trailer nd do not miss not having slides. Foretravel is a quality coach and built in limited quantity. Mybe he next one will be a Povost but the Foretravel has been a good choice for us.


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ccxnola

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And now the revised search begins (with MUCH better information from friends on rv.net) !!

Besed on your input, It has taken the past 48 hours to do some simple groupings & considerations!!

Our main priority is comfort and livability for about 6 months per year for the next 5 years - 3 in the winter to travel Southern States & Mexico and 3 in the summer for new adventures in the 'North' - North of 40 degrees including Canada & Alaska. (Spring & Fall in New Orleans are really fine times of the year to be home!!)

Second consideration is potential recovery of '$$ investment'.
(Yes, I do understand that almost no RV can be expected to imcrease in value - it's a matter to minimize loss when reselling.)

So - within the available funds to purchase (this is the overriding consideration - $70,000 MAX) there are 3 basic groups:
1- Older custom built / bus conversions (ie Prevost et al.) most likely pre-1990.
2- High-end DP factory models (Foretravel, top Monacl, et al) in the 1995-2000 range; and
3- Production models from major manufacturers (Fleetwood et al in the 2003-2005 range.

Here is my logic - and I welcome other views and perspective!
Group 1 seems to have a high risk of significant expense within 5 years to simply keep the rig operational.
Group 3 has many nice features, but has a lot of deprecation yet to go and thus the future (5 year) resale will be much less and thus make for a higher total cost of ownership over the 5 years.
Group 2 is the target - with the major consideration of both a rig that has been well maintained and is near the end of significant depreciation.

So - as noted in the first line - the search starts anew!! Wish me good fortune - Luck will have little to do with it!!


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If you are going to look at foretravel look in the yahoo site there are some for sale. ALso look at motorhomesoftexas.com. call them and talk to Jimmy Bergman. He will know of anything that is in your price range coming in on trade soon too. I bought mine that way and they called and said it was coming and here are pictures. I put a deposit down and when I got there I did not like it on the first one and had no issue getting it back. I bought the second one they sent me... The factory also has sales of used units. If your price was a bit higher I have a friend whois selling his and it is a gem.... But it is a 98 with a new paint job for 90 some K. I think you could get it lower but not for 70K. If you get a 97 or 96 or a U 270 0\or295 you will be right on track though for a 99 or so. A U 320 you will have to be about 96 model year but the depreciation stops pretty much then.


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ccxnola, I think you have gotten a lot of good information. It looks like group two is what you are zeroing in on. This would be a good choice due to the fact that like you mentioned the 'major' depreciation has already taken effect. Generally about the 5-6 year range is when they start slowing a little on depreciation, but they still depreciate. If you only look at it as a matter of loosing money you may drive yourself crazy (trust me, been there), you need to look at it as a matter of enjoyment it will bring. If you purchase an approx. 6 plus year old unit and maintain it well you will take a 'lesser' loss than a newer one (1-3 years) but you will still take a loss. We had a 1991 Beaver that we purchased in 2000 for $74k and had it seven years. Over this time we put approx. 40K miles on it and put a lot of 'sweat equity' into it including tires, polishing paint and wheels, new paint on front cap and lower belt line, ran overhead, rebuilt injector pump, new refrigerator and then just normal maintenance. It was an excellent coach and we got a lot of enjoyment out of it for our first DP. It is still on the road and the new owners are getting as much enjoyment from it as we did. We we sold it after that seven years we still got $65K out of it. The interested party said it was a little higher priced than some of the others they looked at but they wanted a Beaver on a Gillig chassis and said that our was the cleanest and best kept with all the records that they had run across. This proves that it does pay to take as good of care as possible to get the best resale but it is still going to be at a depreciated value. Good luck in your decision, Mike.


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Hears another way to start, look at motors and what you want for a chassis. Like many others said a series 60 is blowing your budget so motor wise hears what you get in your price range
Cummins 8.3 (research the problem years)
Cat 3126/C7 (keep up on maint)
Stick to allison 6 speeds
Chassis
Roadmaster, some frieghtliners had rollcages/semimonoque (switched to roadmasters), foretravel unicoach (I believe its called), spartan. Im sure others will name a few.
For mine I wanted a partial steel (front) along with aluminum superstructure design which in our price was a roadmaster/late freightliner
I really like the later roadmasters with the outboard airbags, but they were too new for us but might be in your pricerange


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Posted: 12/04/08 08:59am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

ccxnola,
I forgot, will you be living alone? If not, what does your partner want/need?
My quick guess is a 40 footer with TWO(2) slideouts.
If you do not specify the top ten features that you want, in order of priority, OUR suggestions will vary all over the place.
In closing, all I can say is that your approach is different than mine.


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Before you commit yourself to slides, remember that most of the depreciation related to not having slides has already taken place, especially in this market. So, the fact that the no-slide unit has had its price knocked down just means that the depreciation percentages each year are working on a lower base, not that it will drop faster.

We bought no-slide, working on the theory that longer and no slide gives the same floor area as shorter and wider. So far, DW agrees.

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I thought no slide when we were looking and after having it, I couldnt be without exspecially when we convert the Jlounge to a jackknive it leaves a path between the 2 beds. We dont have a bedroom slide though

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