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Posted: 06/30/09 11:49am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

just went through the tunnel in Mobile and there are no that signs prohibit propane or propane on.

thanks for the info!

I will guess this will now go on for 10-20 pages, and in the end no one will change there position on this issue.

It's on for me, beer must be at optimal temp upon arrival. [emoticon]

* This post was edited 06/30/09 12:08pm by Learjet *


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Thanks for taking the time to get an "informed" answer. While they may not be the end all authority, it is obvious that their opinion is sought after and their response is well informed. I for one will continue to leave it one except for when refueling. Everyone will make their own decision, but maybe this will lessen the attacking responses.....


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Posted: 06/30/09 01:10pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Just another item to shed a little light on the subject of leaving the refer ON while refueling, I leave mine on while traveling but do turn it off when refueling. But here in California, they just required all service stations to spend up to $11,000.00 per each pump to retrofit the vapor recovering system on the nozzel so the vapors are NOT emitted into the atmosphere, they go back to the supply tank, so if that is the case, there should be no vapors emitted while refueling to ever reach the area of a flame on your refridge if you forgot to turn it off. Do you think this statement has any merit or am I off base? I still don't recommend that you leave the refer ON or that you smoke or use your cell phone while refueling, but I do beleive we are a lot safer now while refueling because the vapors are being recovered, at least in California.


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Posted: 06/30/09 01:28pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

For me it was decided 30-40 years ago. The systems are designed, built, tested and certified to be on while moving. So my father did it and now I do it with no problems.

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Posted: 06/30/09 01:38pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Kajtek1 wrote:

Looks like RVIA is poorly informed.
All BC ferries require propane tanks sealed while using their services.
The requirement to turn off propane on ferries has absolutely nothing to do with leaving it on while driving.

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Quit pestering everybody, and turn it off. If I was you I would not even have a propane tank anywhere on my RV, let alone go down the road w/ the fridge on !


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RJsfishin wrote:

Quit pestering everybody, and turn it off. If I was you I would not even have a propane tank anywhere on my RV, let alone go down the road w/ the fridge on !


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Not only is RIVA biased they are certainly either misinformed or deliberately misstating their power with Maryland . This is a quote from the MTA.

"Code of Maryland Regulations (COMAR) govern the transport of hazardous materials across our toll facilities. Under these regulations, vehicles carrying bottled propane gas in excess of 10 pounds per container (maximum of 10 containers), bulk gasoline, explosives, significant amounts of radioactive materials, and other hazardous materials are prohibited from using the Fort McHenry Tunnel (I-95) or the Baltimore Harbor Tunnel (I-895). The Francis Scott Key Bridge (I-695, the Baltimore Beltway) is a convenient alternative route for crossing Baltimore's Harbor.

Visit the Division of State Documents' website at www.dsd.state.md.us/comar/ to view the actual COMAR regulations: Title 11, Subtitle 7, Chapter 1 (11.07.01).

Yes you can transport 100 lbs but it cannot be in a container larger than 10 lbs which RIVA forgets to mention. So technically they are correct but listening to them will get the majority of RVs a very large ticket. Use the bridge.


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fpresto wrote:

Not only is RIVA biased they are certainly either misinformed or deliberately misstating their power with Maryland . This is a quote from the MTA.

"Code of Maryland Regulations (COMAR) govern the transport of hazardous materials across our toll facilities. Under these regulations, vehicles carrying bottled propane gas in excess of 10 pounds per container (maximum of 10 containers), bulk gasoline, explosives, significant amounts of radioactive materials, and other hazardous materials are prohibited from using the Fort McHenry Tunnel (I-95) or the Baltimore Harbor Tunnel (I-895). The Francis Scott Key Bridge (I-695, the Baltimore Beltway) is a convenient alternative route for crossing Baltimore's Harbor.

Visit the Division of State Documents' website at www.dsd.state.md.us/comar/ to view the actual COMAR regulations: Title 11, Subtitle 7, Chapter 1 (11.07.01).

Yes you can transport 100 lbs but it cannot be in a container larger than 10 lbs which RIVA forgets to mention. So technically they are correct but listening to them will get the majority of RVs a very large ticket. Use the bridge.


are you sure that applies to RV's? sounds like the intent of the law is to address loose tanks that are not installed on a vehicle. lots of laws are not 100% clear. If RV's are "carrying" hazardous materials, why are we not displaying one of those cool little signs for Propane and Gasoline?

For example...What about the 28 gallons of gas in my plastic truck tank, is that any better than the 14 gallons of propane in two steel containers? Has any RV gotten a ticket or stopped for this in those areas?

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Learjet - I am sure there is no RV exception. You can read the code yourself and yes many RVs have been ticketed. When a RV goes through the police know that he will generally have a propane container larger than 10 lbs. It is an easy ticket. There are warning signs posted well in advance of the tunnel advising people to use the bridge, however some people always assume that it doesn't apply to them. Of course a RV stands out like a sore thumb.

"If RV's are "carrying" hazardous materials, why are we not displaying one of those cool little signs for Propane and Gasoline?" - I assume because those requirements are mandated by the Federal DOT not the state of Maryland.

The point that I was trying to make is that the e-mail from RIVA was wrong and could mislead people into getting a ticket. I was not commenting on whether the rules are right or wrong. If people want to try the tunnels in Baltimore in a RV that is up to them but an e-mail from RIVA will not get them out of a ticket.

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