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Oh, this is so good! I wish I have Outfitter 650...dreaming to go everywhere like you!





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To get a better understanding of where you are taking us on these great adventures, I look them up on google maps. Even on the maps, the area looks stunning.

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This picture is my favorite as it makes me want to jump in the truck and see where that road goes:


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Camper_Jeff_&_Kelli wrote:

Curious about the stats of you trip.
How many days, miles, day/night temps, fuel used, propane used, water used, dump the tanks once or twice?


Trip total - 9 days, 8 nights. Roundtrip miles from my home in Flagstaff = 1250, Temperatures/Weather = wildly variable with a few beautiful days, a few windy days, some rain/snow, typical spring weather. Fuel used = 120 gallons (appx) - mileage varies depending on highway travel vs. offroad travel, lots of stop and go for picture taking. Propane = I used most of 1 - 20 lb bottle (5 gals). Water = 25 gallons (appx). My rig doesn't have an inside shower and I use a portable chemical toilet, so dumping tanks is not an issue.

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The roads you showed are in better shape then the paved roads around us in New England.


It is always interesting to me how the conditions of the roads in the backcountry vary from season to season. I was pleasantly surprised to see that the BLM had recently graded most of the trails I saw in the Swell - I expect it to look much different after the summer thunderstorm season!


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Thanks so much for your contribution to this forum! I have enjoyed several of your posting and always look forward to what you have next ot offer us. Your photography and narative discribtions are so well done that it is like reading a professional travel log. Again, thanks!


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Awesome. We hope to get there someday, ourselves.
Thanks for sharing.
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The roads you showed are in better shape then the paved roads around us in New England. Thanks for sharing.


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Beautiful landscapes. Thanks for sharing.


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Great photos and trip! I love that arch - and I guess if I had to pick my favorite picture out of them, it'd be the one of your campsite at the Lucky Smith Mine - just because of the TC in it. But the others of the distant roads are awfully nice too.

By the way, notice how here:

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It is always interesting to me how the conditions of the roads in the backcountry vary from season to season. I was pleasantly surprised to see that the BLM had recently graded most of the trails I saw in the Swell - I expect it to look much different after the summer thunderstorm season!


and here:


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Red's Canyon road continues west for a few more miles, then drops south/southwest into a streambed for another 7 miles as it contours around the base of the cliffs, so it should never be attempted during summer thunderstorm season. On this trip, the sandy washbottom is in good shape.


....Senor Smith is referring to "Thunderstorm SEASON" not just during or after a thunderstorm. For you all that are enjoying these pictures and reports, it is important to note that as benign and friendly as the area looks at times, it can be such a complete opposite at just the right/wrong time. You (or your vehicle anyway) could end up stuck in one of these places for literally days, weeks (or more?) depending. I know people who avoid making comments to others about the "difficulty" of roads out here because of fear of people taking the information and using it, especially during a different time of year and getting caught off guard. The same can happen during the shoulder or winter seasons where a snow can get you stuck or killed in no-time flat. It's something you need to keep in mind. A question to always think about is: "How would I do if I had to WALK out of here to get help?" or "How long would it take someone to find me if I couldn't walk out?" On-Star and Sat-phones can become life savers.... [emoticon]

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....Senor Smith is referring to "Thunderstorm SEASON" not just during or after a thunderstorm. For you all that are enjoying these pictures and reports, it is important to note that as benign and friendly as the area looks at times, it can be such a complete opposite at just the right/wrong time. You (or your vehicle anyway) could end up stuck in one of these places for literally days, weeks (or more?) depending. I know people who avoid making comments to others about the "difficulty" of roads out here because of fear of people taking the information and using it, especially during a different time of year and getting caught off guard. The same can happen during the shoulder or winter seasons where a snow can get you stuck or killed in no-time flat. It's something you need to keep in mind. A question to always think about is: "How would I do if I had to WALK out of here to get help?" or "How long would it take someone to find me if I couldn't walk out?" On-Star and Sat-phones can become life savers.... [emoticon]


Excellent point! I do try to emphasize that many (most) Utah backcountry road are impassable (even impossible) during wet weather. Anyone who says "well, I've got 4 wheel drive so how bad can it be?" needs to understand that the composition of these roads is typically mudstone, shale, or clay and even a little water can turn a smooth well graded surface into a inescapable trap.

I always try to anticipate the weather before I go into the backcountry, USUALLY opting to stay away if it looks like rain - but, as the last installment in my extended trip report will demonstrate even I sometimes fail to heed my own advice.... [emoticon]

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I Loved your pictures ... is it at all possible to put a map in the thread... many of us (east of the devide, like NY) not know where these cut offs are and may be in the area in our travels).... just wishing outloud.

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