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librty02

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From the guys that have owned and towed 5ers for some years now can you give me the best pro's and con's to a single rear axle truck to a dually?? The wife and I are thinking of going to a 5er in the future but will need a bigger truck first. We just wanna make sure we get the right truck. We will be traveling mostly within 12 hours from home. Thanks everyone


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It all depends on how big/how heavy of a 5er you want. A SRW 2500 or 3500 can handle most 5ers up to a GVW of 12-14k and handle the pin weight, depending on individual combinations and capacities. Beyond that, you start pushing the territory of DRW trucks. Also, more tires on the ground means more stability. Good luck!


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IMHO it would be best if you and your wife can find a 5vr that you both like. Then you can use the GVWR and (dry) pin weight (considering that "wet" pin would be quite a bit higher) to find a truck that will handle those weights without exceeded truck capacity.





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Ya most 5er we have looked at that fit us has ship weight around 8000 cargo cap of 2000 and hitch weights of 1400ish WE arent looking for a 35ft er something around 28'. We really like the keystone sydney 275FBH floor plan.

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librty02 wrote:

Ya most 5er we have looked at that fit us has ship weight around 8000 cargo cap of 2000 and hitch weights of 1400ish WE arent looking for a 35ft er something around 28'. We really like the keystone sydney 275FBH floor plan.


If this is what your getting,no need for a dually SRW will do just fine.


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As a general rule of thumb you can use the following guidelines.
Anybodies 3/4 ton truck = Fifth wheel up to about 10K GVWR
Anybodies 1 ton SRW = Fifth wheel up to about 12K GVWR
Anybodies dually = Fifth wheels over 12K and under about 15K GVWR
Over 15K GVWR Fivers you really need to think much larger trucks.
While there will be many who claim that a 3/4 ton will pull any fiver you want, in truth if you want to stay within the manufacturer specs keep to the above chart and you will be OK. While there are no laws forbidding towing overloaded it is not comfortable or relaxing to do so. So I would suggest that you find a fifth wheel that YOU like and with the trailers GVWR in hand go truck shopping for the truck that will handle the intended load and stay within the manufacturers specs. That way there will be no surprises when you get it hitched up and finally across a set of scales.





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johnrbd wrote:

IMHO it would be best if you and your wife can find a 5vr that you both like. Then you can use the GVWR and (dry) pin weight (considering that "wet" pin would be quite a bit higher) to find a truck that will handle those weights without exceeded truck capacity.


Agree. May seem strange, but this is one of those occasions where putting the "cart" before the "horse" isn't a bad thing. We narrowed our search to the make/model trailer we wanted,considered the weight issues (bought used) and found a truck up to the task (also used). Good luck and have fun in your search. [emoticon]

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librty02 wrote:

Ya most 5er we have looked at that fit us has ship weight around 8000 cargo cap of 2000 and hitch weights of 1400ish WE arent looking for a 35ft er something around 28'. We really like the keystone sydney 275FBH floor plan.


Next step is to start looking for a truck. Go to the truck dealers and get the specs for the trucks. Pick the model that will handle the trailer based on the 5er towing capacity and the payload capacity.


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If you even think for a minute that you might want a larger fiver in the future, get the 3500 dually. Cost cheaper than the 3500 single rear wheel. Also, you will not even have to worry about the weight of the smaller fiver. Dual wheels has always been my way to tow. I like the stability and how well it works with the Firestone airbags. Of course, we are towing a large fiver, I had a dually for all my fivers from 12K to my current 17K.


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Get a one ton SRW truck with tires that will handle the load. Some of them have tire/wheel combinations that may look good, but they don't do the job. Check the data plate for axle weight limits along with the GCWR of the truck. The owners manual will tell you the allowable 5th wheel towing capacity.

Some will tell you that a dually is more stable, but I think it is more a case of being within all limits with the load distributed properly. We have a SRW F-350 that tows our rig just fine for the last 20,000 miles with no stability problems and we are at the limits with just about all parameters. JMHO


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