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Posted: 06/15/12 03:55am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Thoroughly enjoying your detailed travelog! We're off "camping" for several days, and will pick up from Prague on our return.

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Posted: 06/15/12 05:15am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Awesome job on the trip report. Really makes my wife and I want to make an overseas trip some day. Thanks again


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Friday

We're back in Germany at this point, and only a few miles from Nuremberg, so I couldn't hold back my interest in architecture. So here we are on the edge of the city:

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If you are wondering why the car park looks strange, it is because it is currently part of a race track. What is the other side of the camper is Zeppelinfeld, named as such after Count Zeppelin landed one of his famous airships here in 1909. It is now better known for this:

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Or as it appeared in 1938:

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A typical example of National Socialist party architecture.

The view from the lectern - notice the starting grid for racing cars and the modern stadium in the background:

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The spectator stands around the edge are now overgrown (you can see them in the above picture too:

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Thankfully, in these modern times the grounds are no longer used for fascist rabble-rousing. Looking at these plans something much nice was about to be laid out:

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And in case you can't tell from the plans - here are a list of attendees:

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Behind Zeppelinfeld is a wide road for parades:

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And here is how it looked when under construction:

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Adjoining Grosse Strasse is the Kongresshalle:

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By now you are getting the understanding that HUGE was clearly a major design philosophy for Albert Speer and his colleagues.

Walking around the back revealed an entrance:

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You can see the real scale of it from here:

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From this original model you can see they intended to build rows of seats around the outside and roof the entire vast structure - this would have been a very impressive feat in the 30s / 40s:

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The following post card shows the full extent of the greater complex, much of which no longer exists - from the pictures above you can see the scale of Zeppelinfeld and the Kongresshalle, now look below - they are numbers 8 and 5 respectively - compare these to Marsfeld in the top of the illustration - that made them look tiny:

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A sign also paid respect the the US troops who liberated Nuremberg and were later stationed there:

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I considered heading off to find some of the more historic parts of the city, but we decided to head off to the show at Bad Kissingen early so as to get a reasonable camping space.

Stay tuned for the show...

Steve.


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Posted: 06/15/12 02:38pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Steve,

I'm really enjoying your extended and extensive trip report across Europe. The sights must be truly impressive in person, as your pictures are great! Truck camping "Euro" style is a completely different animal than what we're used to, and a refreshing change of venue. Thanks again for the effort.


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Abenteuer Allrad 2012 - Bad Kissingen - first afternoon

We arrived at Bad Kissingen early afternoon on the Friday - it had been raining and Joerg68 (from RV.net) warned us we would need 4x4, but the sun came out now and it was lovely.

As we descended the hill we saw the camp ground stretched out to the left. Sally thought it might be a small camp ground and wasn't prepared for the many acres of camping. There were 52,000 visitors to the show and it seemed that most of them had brought a vehicle and were camping.

We turned into the camp ground and a friendly helper came forward to take 10 Euros off us for the night's camping - "Ah, you tricked me" he said referring to the fact he went to the wrong window - there were only about 4 right-hand drive vehicles there including ours. He said there were showers (given the number of people camping we didn't even bother trying them).

We thought we would drive around and spot Joerg's camper, but after driving around the first field (in 4x4 in the mud) it soon became clear we had little chance of spotting one camper amongst about 1000.

I had to phone Joerg twice for directions (Joerg and Janina were up at the show ground so had to describe where they had parked over the phone). Eventually I spotted their Outfitter by climbing up on a hill and following Joerg's directions - he was parked in the 3rd field. We found a spot opposite:

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So we locked up straight away and walked up to the camp entrance where the coaches take you to the show. The actual show is a 15 to 20 minute drive via free coach up in a forest above the town in what appears to be an old military base from the cold war.

Joerg and Janina kindly waited for us inside the entrance and then it was time for some serious appreciation of camping equipment:

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Very popular are converted vehicles like Land Cruisers, Land Rovers and in this case Mercedes G-Wagons - with pop-up tops:

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Obviously these are all far smaller than our truck campers, but they are designed for serious offroad travel, and mainly in warmer countries like Africa where you aren't restricted to hiding from the weather inside your vehicle (like we usually have to in Europe), so the small interior size is less of a problem; though this one is a similar size to our Shadow cruiser:

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Some people brought serious kit with them:

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Nice toys for sale:

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Ah, here is Mark (we met last Friday at Felix' house - remember, he runs the German truck camper forum) - by the following day Mark was starting to look a bit tired - he admitted it wasn't so much the pressure of running the stand, more the pressure of the drinking in the evening with the other exhibitors [emoticon]

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An interesting pop-up:

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I do like the G-wagon based campers:

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Ah, and here is Felix's stand (Flaxi) - Felix is contemplating his snow chain display:

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And here is the Uro-camper he is selling:

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And the construction technique:

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We left Felix as he had a lot of interest and we didn't want to take him away from potential customers. On to see some truck campers:

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These are interesting - notice the nearer one is built-on, but the one behind is in the form of a truck camper:

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The interior with the bed folded up:

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And with it down:

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Mmmmmm, Jerry cans [emoticon] - the following day we bought a long-handled shovel from this stall. It was marked 30 Euros, then another price tag over the top said 20 Euros, then that had been crossed out and another tag showed 10 Euros - when I held it up to the stall holder he said "funf?" - so I got it for 5 Euros!

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It wasn't just the small toys for sale at the show:

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In case you didn't notice what was hanging off the back - it has a tail lift and a garage - it's a toy hauler:

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Time for some Currywurst:

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Soon it was 6pm and time for the show to end - so we hitched a ride on one of the returning coaches, though Sally had to share her seat:

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Back in the camp ground we decided to have a look around the 2nd show - the camp ground is equally as impressive as the show itself - except many times larger with many more vehicles - here is a typical Australian style:

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The majority of vehicles though had either hard-side or pop-up camper bodies - undoubtedly this bias is something to do with our European weather, making living outside and sleeping in a tent less desirable (erecting and stowing your roof tent in the pouring rain standing on a slippery ladder can't be fun).

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Some vehicles had nice graphics - though I wouldn't bother myself given the number of trees I scrape our camper through:

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I like this Land cruiser based camper:

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Some people brought bigger vehicles with them - at 1.40 Euros per litre this must be getting expensive:

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This one looks home built - not sure about the COG though:

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I do like these classic Land Cruisers - notice the steel supports for the cab-over - I assume there is some chassis flex in the Land cruiser, so I wonder how this works since it looks like this ties the camper to both the from and back of the chassis:

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Look, Germans have red-necks too:

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Some people really had travelled:

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Looking around the camp ground there were only 3 other vehicles from Britain. Plus there were a couple of vehicles from Spain. Most other vehicles were much more local. People were surprised we had driven all the way from England, and even more surprised when we admitted we came via Prague!

Sally asked "why don't we ever see these vehicles on the road?" and it is true - looking in this field you would think you would see them everywhere, but the truth is what you usually see in Europe is the normal class A style motorhome.

Back to the camper - the view standing on my roof - Mmmmmm - Joerg is getting the grill ready for the sausages [emoticon]

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Stay tuned for more of the show tomorrow...

Steve.

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Posted: 06/15/12 05:33pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Thank you again... I'm really enjoying your report.

We now have even more reason to be interested in Rngland and Europe. Our grandson and his family will be moving to England in September. We were already enjoying the reports.

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hey Stev & Sally, what a great report ! [emoticon]
Indeed I had some many interested people in our new URO-camper concept that I had only a few time to take one important photo:
the "sabconsultings" and flaxi in front of one of our campers:

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Thanks Felix - that was a lovely group picture Maria took of us.

I'm really glad you had so much interest at the show - every time we walked past Felix's stand he had a potential customer with him. I'll include some more pictures shortly. Note that it isn't just Felix selling that one camper shown in the picture, he can have them made custom to any size or shape.

Good luck with your sales.

Steve.

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sleepy wrote:

Thank you again... I'm really enjoying your report.

We now have even more reason to be interested in Rngland and Europe. Our grandson and his family will be moving to England in September. We were already enjoying the reports.

Sleepy


Definitely worth a trip over once your grandson has got settled in - where is he moving to? From England you can get to all the major cities in Europe very cheaply via budget airlines (to the extent that we are seen as very weird driving to Prague from here when checking out the budget airlines shows you can get there and back by air for under 60 pounds each). Obviously we would also love to have you drop by if you ever did come over [emoticon]

Steve.

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A great thanks Steve for this wonderful report.


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