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Topic: Propane Detector Set Off by Litterbox????

Posted By: GMandJM on 02/21/13 12:23pm

So after the third night in a row of getting awakened by the scream of the LPG
detector, we called the company that made it to try to figure out what the issue
could be.

We had turned off the propane after the first night it went off, so we are pretty
sure that isn't the issue (Tanks are in the back, detector in the front of the RV, btw).
Also checked the batteries and they're fine, so it isn't a matter of low voltage.

The detector is only 18 months old - out of warranty, of course.

The CSR came up with this: The fumes from the cat using her litter box
may be setting it off.

We're picking up another detector today to see if there really is something setting
off the alarm or if it's defective, but we are wondering if anyone with a cat has
had this happen or if anyone has heard of this happening?

It seems a bit farfetched to me.


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Posted By: Andymon on 02/21/13 12:25pm

When we did our walk through we were told that hair spray and certain floor cleaners could set it off. Maybe the ammonia from the litter box is causing it. Could move the box.


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Posted By: Old-Biscuit on 02/21/13 12:28pm

Our old hound has set it off by passing wind.

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Posted By: dahkota on 02/21/13 01:00pm

We were told it must be the dog. Even when she wasn't in the trailer (in that case, it must be her food, we were told).
Our problems started after the batteries went dead sitting in the lot where we keep it. After that, it would randomly go off, usually at 3AM or when we were not in the trailer. We gave up on it and got another one.


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Posted By: Deb and Ed M on 02/21/13 02:06pm

Um, putting this politely - methane is methane. One of my dogs made the mistake of passing gas while laying near the detector - and set it off, scaring all of us to death - then had Hubby and I laughing so hard.... well... it's bathroom humor at its finest ;-)


Posted By: D & M on 02/21/13 02:40pm

I bet we could come u with a couple of dozen things that set of the detector. Spray air freshener sets of mine.


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Posted By: rockhillmanor on 02/21/13 03:54pm

Quote:

Propane Detector Set Off by Litterbox????

YUP it can.

Traveled with some friends and they cleaned the cat litter box, put it in a bag and tied it off....only thing is they set the bag down on the floor by the detector and that sent it off screaming.

You will find many things will set it off, cleaners, some perfumes, spray deodorant to name a few.


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Posted By: 3 dog nights on 02/21/13 04:37pm

number of years ago mine went off all of the time. Fixed it when it when off at 2am and I punched a hole in the thing and riped the wiring out. Slept well after that. Bought another at the end of the trip and never had another problem. Wife swears the other appliances warned the new one what would happen.


Posted By: wa8yxm on 02/21/13 05:50pm

Never had that happen myself (2 cat motor home) But, as someone said, Methane is Methane, so is ammonia and that can also be a litter box product.

We call them propane detectors but they detect ANY explosive gas, Propane, Methane, Hair Spray propellent, Air Freshener propellent, Alcohol, Gasoline, and a long long of list of things that go BOOM when you mix with the proper ration of air and add a spark.


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Posted By: RoadLife on 02/21/13 06:08pm

Our dog loves to sleep right by the propane detector. She sets it off quite frequently with doggie farts. I think the litter box is a good call.


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Posted By: WoodGlue on 02/21/13 06:19pm

Sure sure! Blame the poor helpless animals! [emoticon]


Posted By: Peg Leg on 02/21/13 06:34pm

Mine also has a low voltage alarm included in the package. I added a on/off rocker switch in the power line as mine didn't have a way to disable the noise. At 3 in the morning it's quick and dirty.


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Posted By: Roundtwo-40 on 02/21/13 07:46pm

Gas is gas is gas..lol


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Posted By: portscanner on 02/22/13 04:41am

Take it out and check to see if there is a date on the back. The manufacturer could have put an old one in there (never used - but old
When those detectors get old they start alarming on anything or nothing.


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Posted By: az99 on 02/22/13 05:14am

Has anyone had one actually detect a leak that was posing a real danger?


Posted By: K3WE on 02/22/13 05:26am

az99 wrote:

Has anyone had one actually detect a leak that was posing a real danger?


That doesn't catch as many headlines as when something explodes (resturaunt in Kansas City this week).


Posted By: D & M on 02/22/13 06:17am

az99 wrote:

Has anyone had one actually detect a leak that was posing a real danger?


No one knows because they always blame it on the litter box. [emoticon]


Posted By: Vulcaneer on 02/22/13 07:13am

Our litterbox has set it off a couple of times. Sounds like your detector is working just fine. Why replace it?


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Posted By: winniman on 02/22/13 07:29am

No chance of sneaking one in I guess with those things around. lol


Posted By: 3 dog nights on 02/22/13 07:38am

az99 wrote:

Has anyone had one actually detect a leak that was posing a real danger?


Yes, first trip out,with new 5'ver, wife didn't turn the gas range all the way off.
it was just slightly off the "Off" mark. About an hour after breakfast the alarm went off. When I got down on the floor to hit the reset switch I smelled the gas. Just glad I gave up smoking years ago, could have been both first and last trip!


Posted By: GMandJM on 02/22/13 11:32am

After reading this, I told G-half there'd be no more gas passing in
the camper. (He didn't go for it.)

Seriously though:

Thanks for all the replies...and for making us smile. We did get a
backup detector and are running both at the same time. The new one is
on 9v battery and the original one on AC. We'll see if either/both go
off, but so far nothing.

In reading the lit that came with the new detector, there was quite a
list of what might set it off, including acetone (in nail polish remover)
and ammonia (which is the main ingredient in After-Bite bug bite remedy).
Egad - it's a wonder these things aren't set off constantly!

FWIW, our kitty litter has something called "Ammonia Shield". That
probably sets off these detectors, too. [emoticon]

Thanks again to all who took the time to reply.

j-half


Posted By: allen8106 on 02/23/13 08:56am

GMandJM wrote:

So after the third night in a row of getting awakened by the scream of the LPG
detector, we called the company that made it to try to figure out what the issue
could be.

We had turned off the propane after the first night it went off, so we are pretty
sure that isn't the issue (Tanks are in the back, detector in the front of the RV, btw).
Also checked the batteries and they're fine, so it isn't a matter of low voltage.

The detector is only 18 months old - out of warranty, of course.

The CSR came up with this: The fumes from the cat using her litter box
may be setting it off.

We're picking up another detector today to see if there really is something setting
off the alarm or if it's defective, but we are wondering if anyone with a cat has
had this happen or if anyone has heard of this happening?

It seems a bit farfetched to me.


One thing you should understand is that the manure and urine generates methane. Methane is samilar to propane. Additionally most aeresol sprays use some sort of methane product as the propellant that aids in dispensing the liquid from the aersol can. As such many, many products in a spray can will set off the propane detector.


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Posted By: WandaLust2 on 02/24/13 10:36am

GMandJM wrote:



The CSR came up with this: The fumes from the cat using her litter box
may be setting it off.


Perhaps you can use clumping litter and scoop twice a day? Could it be the faint ammonia fumes doing it? I know Hair Spray and Room Freshener sets one of our alarms off. [emoticon]

Quote:

We're picking up another detector today to see if there really is something setting
off the alarm or if it's defective, but we are wondering if anyone with a cat has
had this happen or if anyone has heard of this happening?


Never heard of this happening. We travel with four cats and 2 large litterboxes (totes from Wal*Mart) with a clumping deodorized litter. I scoop several times a day as needed. No alarms have gone off.

Quote:

It seems a bit farfetched to me.


To me too... unless there's ammonia or some kind of chemical in the litter setting off the alarm.


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Posted By: GMandJM on 02/25/13 08:36pm

We scoop anytime there is something in the box and we use a clumping
litter, so I really dont think that was the cause after all.

Last night we finally unwired the old detector after it would not clear the alarm
mode even after opening all the windows and using a fan. The alarm we bought
for backup did not go off at all. We really think that the original gas detector
is/was defective.

Thanks again for the replies.


Posted By: Kittykath on 02/26/13 06:22am

Okay, so I'm not crazy.

After several sleepless nights of the detector going off at 3am and scrambling to open the doors and windows, I finally determined the culprit was none other than my teenage son's tennis shoes! Not sure what was fermenting in them, but it must have been toxic. I made this discovery only AFTER I went berzerk and cut every possible connection with a wire cutter in the middle of the night.

I'm $70 poorer, but the new detector is much less temperamental and we finally can sleep through the night.


Posted By: noteven on 02/26/13 06:31am

Couldn't you just see ol' Rover, lying there pretending to sleep, passing a little wind caused by the dead gopher he ate before he licked your face, and that detector going off....Rover stuck on ceiling ... a ha ha ha ...

and scaring the cat would be even better...

made my day...


Posted By: shenandoahvalley on 02/26/13 06:44am

I have had the same problem this week, finally pulled the wires out of the back of the alarm. I will have to get another one as soon as I can get to a dealer. Mine got to the point that even orange peels set it off, along with Fabreeze, the dog, not even sure what else. They must get very sensitive after a while.


Posted By: WoodGlue on 02/26/13 06:53am

I just bought one of these in case my built in unit goes off:

Carbon Monoxide Detector

If they both go off, the I'll take the alarm more seriously, as I'm going to keep this one on my headboard.

Wait, this is the propane detector thread!

WoodGlue


Posted By: crabbin cabin on 02/26/13 10:03am

Just move the litter box! Self admitance - one time I was lying on my gut working under the kitchen sink when I 'accidentaly' passed gas! Yes - you guessed it - beeeep when the 'gas' detector!!


Posted By: 3LittleDucks on 05/05/13 08:07pm

We don't camp with a cat, but ours went off in the middle of the night last night (1 beep every 30 seconds, so an 'error' type mode), not sure what triggered it.


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Posted By: Bill T on 05/06/13 06:16am

Cleaned camper interior with Murphy's Oil Soap and it set off the gas detector. No propane or engines turned on. Had to run fans to air out the cabin to keep the thing from beeping.


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