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Butch50

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Posted: 01/31/14 12:11pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Mello Mike wrote:

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As you can see from my rig the fronts are slanted back and the ones on the rear slanted forward. I also have a rubber matt under the camper. I have never had the camper slide forward or backs but I have had it move slightly side to side.

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That sure is a nice looking rig, Butch.


Mike, thanks for the compliment. When are you going to post a picture of your new truck with the camper loaded on it? Looking forward to seeing your new rig loaded up and ready to go. If you have and I didn't see it let me know where to look for it. [emoticon]


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Posted: 01/31/14 12:12pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Butch50 wrote:

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I really hope you are kidding me because if you are not you need to do a little more studying to figure out what truck have what ratings. Also what truck are you getting that has manual hubs on the front for a 4X4. If is a new truck there is none that have manual hubs anymore.


No no, I know your truck and camper combo is fine anyway you look at it, I was just talking about the shear size looking at it in a photo. the camper looks almost the same size per say then your truck.

I in no way was saying that your truck was not qualified for the job, I was just starting that my over killness (is that a word?)would want to use a 6x6 military truck or something...

So in short, yes I was kidding and poking fun at myself for being such that would want something so ridiculous big to haul that camper, it would be like needing a ton truck to haul a bicycle.

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Led 67 wrote:

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I plan using belly bars mounted to the frame to hold down my behemouth. I think I would feel better if I had a secondary tie down system for safety. What would you advise?


Well not to detract from the OP but you did not say what truck you have, Year, Make, and Model. Otherwise have you looked into Torklift or Happijacor maybe a set of custom or homebuilt tiedowns such as thse found in the TCU thread here.


Sorry I am using a tiny iPod to type today. Anyways I have a 76 amerigo TC that weighs approx 2700 dry . I have hauled it once (16 hours home) on a triton v 10 Ford dialog 3500. Already on my truck are 2 belly bars ,frame mounted. The tie downs attached to the belly bars are connected to the actual jacks mounted to the TC. There are additional eye hooks on the rig that were used to tie down, that I could use to tie in to a secondary system. I don't know why... Maybe because I am new to baling a TC... I just feel the need for a backup for safety sake.

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Sorry damn small keyboard. It is a dually not dialog.

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Posted: 01/31/14 12:20pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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My 2013 truck is rated for 14,000# GVWR and the camper on it loaded ready to go camping the total GW is 12,200#. I am under my GVWR by 1800#. My rear axle rating is 9750# and with the camper on it the rear axle weighs 7140#. So this means my rear axle is under by 2610#.

If this truck can't handle this load I think that almost everybody on here better stop varying their campers because most are over their GVWR on here. This truck has the same GVWR as the 2011 to 2014 Ford F450 so which bigger truck would you recommend????

You are looking at a camper that has a dry weight of 1500# and going to put it on a 3/4 ton that has a probably a max GVWR of 10,000# My camper only weighs 3,000# and my Ram has over 4,000# more capacity than your 3/4 ton.

I really hope you are kidding me because if you are not you need to do a little more studying to figure out what truck have what ratings. Also what truck are you getting that has manual hubs on the front for a 4X4. If is a new truck there is none that have manual hubs anymore.


My truck is a 2014 F-250 ext cab/super cab 4x4 gas. According to Ford, the towing specs is 12,500lbs and the cargo is 2,6xxlbs ( I'm wrong, mine is 3,360-3,460). The f-350 is the same as mine, the 450 is 18k. The GWV is 9900-10k on the 250, 350 is up to 14k and the 450 ain't even listed...


Ford Super Duty is the last and only trucks that make a lock out hub and manual/ mechanical 4x4 shifting. I almost bought a truck like yours, a single rear wheel. But wanted a Ford due to the lock out hubs, and the Dodge dealer would not budge after I found one just like there's in TX for 10k less...

* This post was edited 01/31/14 12:39pm by pratmaster *

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I do not know how to post pictures, or I would post the front of my truck and the lock out hub.

Again, I was not trying to get you riled up or anything. Also I do not own a truck camper, never have and know no one that does. I have never been up close to a truck camper, unless passing on the interstate counts and I have never st foot in one.
So I know nothing of them except what I have read over the last few months and looking at pictures. I was making a comment on how it looks in a photo, look at your photo and think in the terms of never being up close to a camper and you might see my point of view..

Again ,I did not mean anything by my comment..

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IS that a home made traction plate on the side of your truck under the camper?

And what is with that shovel handle, it looks like a wavy/crooked home made handle.. I assume its just the way it looks in the picture, but it looks odd...


Yes, it is a form of sand ladder - actually I think it is recycled flooring.

Yes, the shovel handle looks crooked, but I think it is just the picture.

I also have rubber matting (horse stall matting) - it gives extra grip and a bit of isolation and spring between the camper and the load bed; plus it lifts the camper to clear the cab roof - modern trucks often have higher cabs than older truck campers were designed for.

Dadwolf: Yes, they were home made tie-downs. The front ones don't have any built in spring, but I found that the steel mountings gave enough flex anyway. The rear mountings are shorter and don't flex so I built spring units. You are right about getting the correct spring rate. If I can feel something in my hands I tend to know what strength etc. I need for it. In this case the spring was from a car door - I considered an engine valve spring but that would have been too stiff - I don't like too much tension.

This is the write-up I did covering the ........n - you have to follow the various pages

I also ended up adapting the front tiedowns into a form of belly bar. I found offroad the front mountings tended to flex too much, so I welded some re-bar between them to cross-brace them.

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Posted: 01/31/14 01:12pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

pratmaster,

I'm going to have to eat crow as I didn't think Ford was still making the fully manual hubs. I went to the Ford page and looked at the owners manual and it does show that Ford does still offer manual hubs. I also prefer the fully manual hubs but I like a little bit of the luxury also so I get the higher packages and they are not offered with that option of manual hubs.

My bad, no need to post pictures I have already seen it and read it for myself. [emoticon]

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Here's a view of my tie down angles along with a pic of my new truck.

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Posted: 01/31/14 01:47pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Mello Mike wrote:

Here's a view of my tie down angles along with a pic of my new truck.

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Thanks for the pictures Mike, your setup looks great. I like that color it is really nice. [emoticon] Have you found it hard to keep clean?

Those Ram beds are a little bit shorter than the Ford beds are.

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