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Posted: 06/15/15 02:30pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

This thread is for discussion related to next year's Annual RV.net Class B Rally.

For those not familiar with the Annual Class B Rally Organizing Process, click on the link.

Nominations for next year's rally are accepted over about a two month period and we are starting a little later than usual. The objective is to have a site picked by about Labor Day so the chosen site campground can be reserved for the rally. And with a date set, interested attendees can put it on their 2016 calendar.

The Annual Class B Rally is an all volunteer event, so jump in and nominate a site so the tradition will continue. We have been lucky to have a number of participants step up to the organizing role in the past. Harold and Jackie are the most recent example and a great job they did with B12. Who will be next?

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Posted: 06/16/15 05:18pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Looking forward to more posts and discussion. We are very interested. Just don't have an interesting site nomination to make at this time.

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Can someone tell me if we would able to attend a Class B rally? I attended previously in my 2003 Sprinter. Now we downsized to a 2003 Thor Citation 25' Sprinter which the manufacturer calls a B+ . Thanks.

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In the past the Thor Citation would not have been accepted at the B Rally. It is a Class C by definition and remains a Class C under the guidelines of the B-Rally group. That has been consistently clear over the years. B by the rally definition must spring from a true van body in its conversion. Whether it is a camper van, motor home or whatever after that has been loosely applied and accepted. That's my take anyway. I'm just an attendee.


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Margie,

It's not about whether you have a Sprinter based RV but whether it is a Class B as you note. The rally follows the same definition of a Class B that this forum does, i.e. the RVIA definition that a Class B is a van conversion. B+ is a marketing name.

There is a practical reason for this for the rally as well as I see it. The rallies are volunteer organized and small in nature. Small class C RVs like yours far outnumber true Class Bs so opening it up for all comers (there would be no easily definable or defensible way to define eligibility) would change the whole character of the rally. We have seen that in the LTV owners rally in Manitoba. The first time we attended, almost all attendees were in Class Bs. The second time we attended several years after LTV began building small Class Cs, the Class Cs far outnumbered Class Bs at the rally.

Sorry to be the bearer of this news.

On edit, well I see I am not the first bearer. Davydd beat me to it. [emoticon]

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Thanks Davydd. I was afraid that would be the reply. Hope you all have a great rally. It was such a great group of RVers when I did attend.

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Davydd wrote:

I'm just an attendee.
[emoticon] We are all just attendees. It is an attendee organized event.

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Attendee meaning I didn't create the criteria and was just reporting as I understood it. AsheGuy you hit the nail on the head. It would quickly become a Class C group by numbers default and there would be a fight as to whether a Thor Citation 32 footer was a B or not. LTV has pretty much gone over to the C only in what they build. Pleasure-way seems to be focusing more and more in that direction.

The B criteria is old definition. I believe Jackie Delk tried to resolve the issue with RVIA and really did not get any support that a Class B is strictly a van origin. They don't even use Class anymore. It is Type B and their current descriptions are kind of murky and wishy washy in my opinion. RVIA is an industry association. They represent the builders/sellers not the buyer/users. It is similar to the NFL representing owners and not the players. RVIA is not going to tell a manufacturer he can't call a small C a B.

Margie, There are other social and rally groups with looser criteria. The manufacturers of course accept all their brands at rallies. My brand, Advanced RV, holds Advanced Fest and has put no restrictions on brand or type, but of course, the focus is on their product. The BEE Social Group sprang from the B-Rally mainly because some people wanting to still get together had moved on to Class C, Class As and trailers. The group is still primarily Bs, but it is a much looser organization. It does not satisfy sponsors, carry a treasury, charge fees or have criteria and rules. Someone just has to pick a location, make arrangements with a campground if necessary, pick a date and announce it. Nothing is provided budget wise. There have been fairly large gatherings such as 20 or more RVs or some very small gatherings of as few as 4 RVs. I am not aware of any other active groups that are B focused. This RV.net forum seems to have a lot of different kinds of RV rallies. I rarely check it. That is why I subscribe to these B Rally threads when they first start rather than check the board periodically.

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I believe a 'B' is built within the confines of a van.
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omjones wrote:

I believe a 'B' is built within the confines of a van.
john 'I am Canadian'
You have the right idea.

All motorhomes have an engine and wheels. The Class of a motorhome is determined by how it left the factory before it became a livable motorhome.

A Class A started life as nothing more than an engine mounted in a frame with wheels. This is often called a frame and chassis. The motorhome builder built a cab, floor, sidewalls, roof, and contents.

A Class B started life as a complete enclosed van. The motorhome builder could have cut off the roof and extended it upward, cut out a side and installed a slide out, but it still is a van. The contents are also installed by the builder.

A Class C started life as a complete cab sitting on a chassis. The builder built everything behind the driver and passenger seat.


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