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From looking at the picture from your 10:42 post, I would say add the couple inches. If I recall correctly, that would still give you about 7 feet of kitchen counter (including the sink) which is more than many RVs have. Think DW can spare a bit of space. The "standing" space in that photo looks pretty small. Get in there and simulate a shower allowing for the placement of the shower head as it can take up a few inches by itself. I know that you are running all the plumbing on the surface, but if you put the shower valves a bit lower than usual, you can hide the supply lines in the kitchen cabinet.

Do they make a special toilet / toilet lid for toilets in wet baths? Be sure to put in a waterproof container for your reading material. And hey, what do you do with the toilet paper? Have never seen a wet bath, let alone used one.


Good idea, although I did get inside and simulate taking a shower, and this was about the minimum I felt comfortable with. Moving the base of the toilet about 2 inches would feel a little better.

After getting in there, I realized that using x amount of space for a toilet, then adding only a few more inches would accommodate a shower as well, seemed like a good idea. That would eliminate the need for flipping up the kitchen counter.

As far as plumbing, I may run a short section through the interior wall for the shower. I'm not running anything through the outside walls, due to killing the insulation value.

I am not aware of any special toilet lid for a wet bath. The one that is on this particular one, would easily shed water. Covering the toilet with a piece of plastic would keep it dry as well.

Reading material today = "cell phone", Lol.

Just having a cover for the toilet paper is all that is necessary.

I am not going to do this, but the redneck version would be to cut the side out of a 3 lb coffee container, mount it sideways on the wall, and put the paper inside of that. Lol.

A commercial version may look something like this......



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So "The best part of waking up" isn't Folgers in your shower?


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STBRetired wrote:

So "The best part of waking up" isn't Folgers in your shower?


Actually, for us "older" folks, the best part about waking up, is, well, waking up!![emoticon]

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Actually, for us "older" folks, the best part about waking up, is, well, waking up!![emoticon]

Al

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STBRetired wrote:

So "The best part of waking up" isn't Folgers in your shower?




Ah, I love it. Good humor costs nothing! [emoticon]

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FloridaRosebud wrote:

STBRetired wrote:

So "The best part of waking up" isn't Folgers in your shower?


Actually, for us "older" folks, the best part about waking up, is, well, waking up!![emoticon]

Al


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I hear ya, brother.



Depends on how you define "older".

I remember being in high school, thinking that people who were 30 years old, were, well, "old".

Those who were retired, "ancient".

Amazing how your viewpoint changes, when the numbers on the calendar change. Lol....

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Got the framing for the toilet/shower installed today. As you can see in this pic, the red arrows show a piece that I added. It is roughly 8 inches.

Since the piece to the left of it, was glued to the ceiling, I just left it in place and added one piece, with construction adhesive and Kreg Screws. Since this is not a structural piece, I don't anticipate any problems with it.

The blue arrows point to the pieces that I reused.



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Here's the bottom section. Again, I added a piece about 8" long. The blue arrow also points to the piece I reused.

All in all, even though this took a while to fix, it didn't cost anything major in components, because I could reuse so much of the original framing. Yippeeeee!!



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What that means is, we now have a toilet/shower area that is about 44 inches long, instead of 36. That will give us plenty of room inside, and still not use much kitchen counter space.

So, we have about a 30 x 44 toilet/shower area.



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After moving the shower walls, I cut the kitchen counter area plywood to length. This will extend just over the wheel well.

The front edge of the wheel well, is about the center of the motor home from front to back. It's about 10 feet.

The front of the counter will extend past the front of the wheel well about 1.5". 3/4 inch of that will be taken up by the framing for the end of the counter to the floor.



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