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Posted: 07/09/17 07:18am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

And really, a properly setup hitch will mitigate the need for airbags.


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From my experience, I expect the only issues with the F150HD would be the 2" class IV hitch and the weak engine braking of the Ecoboost.

But as the OP is not towing that much with it, hitch wear and slop shouldn't be that much of an issue, and if he avoids long, steep, slow descents with 20 mph hair pin turns, then I can see little problem with engine braking. And perhaps the 10 spd tranny will help as well on the descents.

We upgraded to an 3/4 ton diesel, but it's primarily a tow truck, and we tow a lot.


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The new SuperDuty has the same cab structure as the F150 now. I wonder how there is more headroom in a F250. Saw a truckload of new 2018 SuperDuty trucks in Middletown Ohio last week. Sure has a LOT of chrome on the front end.


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goducks10 wrote:

I'm guessing that the F250 6.7 may actually have a lower payload rating than the F150 HD. Higher RAWR yes.
Why the diesel if it's a daily driver and you only tow 5-6 times a year? JMO but I'd get a gasser for that. Save the $9,000 for something else.


I'd have to agree with that. Diesels take a little more to maintain and if the OP didn't think he was going to go bigger during the life of the truck, gas might be the better way to go and definitely with the 250. Why work a 1/2 ton to death trying to do what a 3/4 ton will do a lot better. Just my opinion. Not sure about the mileage on the fords but the 3/4 ton Rams I've driven with the 6.4 hemi run about 20mpg at 60mph. Yes the diesel will tow a lot easier especially if he's towing in a mountainous region but does he really need it, well the OP would need to decide that, if he's not towing in the mountains then I'd stay with the gas 3/4 ton.


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tinner12002 wrote:

goducks10 wrote:

I'm guessing that the F250 6.7 may actually have a lower payload rating than the F150 HD. Higher RAWR yes.
Why the diesel if it's a daily driver and you only tow 5-6 times a year? JMO but I'd get a gasser for that. Save the $9,000 for something else.


I'd have to agree with that. Diesels take a little more to maintain and if the OP didn't think he was going to go bigger during the life of the truck, gas might be the better way to go and definitely with the 250. Why work a 1/2 ton to death trying to do what a 3/4 ton will do a lot better. Just my opinion. Not sure about the mileage on the fords but the 3/4 ton Rams I've driven with the 6.4 hemi run about 20mpg at 60mph. Yes the diesel will tow a lot easier especially if he's towing in a mountainous region but does he really need it, well the OP would need to decide that, if he's not towing in the mountains then I'd stay with the gas 3/4 ton.


Gas HDs don't run 20 mpg highway unless the highway is downhill and there's wind at your back.


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IdaD wrote:

Gas HDs don't run 20 mpg highway unless the highway is downhill and there's wind at your back.

And the engine better be off too. Gas 3/4 ton trucks are more in the 14-16 mpg combined range at best. Slightly worse than 1/2 ton trucks.


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IdaD wrote:

tinner12002 wrote:

goducks10 wrote:

I'm guessing that the F250 6.7 may actually have a lower payload rating than the F150 HD. Higher RAWR yes.
Why the diesel if it's a daily driver and you only tow 5-6 times a year? JMO but I'd get a gasser for that. Save the $9,000 for something else.


I'd have to agree with that. Diesels take a little more to maintain and if the OP didn't think he was going to go bigger during the life of the truck, gas might be the better way to go and definitely with the 250. Why work a 1/2 ton to death trying to do what a 3/4 ton will do a lot better. Just my opinion. Not sure about the mileage on the fords but the 3/4 ton Rams I've driven with the 6.4 hemi run about 20mpg at 60mph. Yes the diesel will tow a lot easier especially if he's towing in a mountainous region but does he really need it, well the OP would need to decide that, if he's not towing in the mountains then I'd stay with the gas 3/4 ton.


Gas HDs don't run 20 mpg highway unless the highway is downhill and there's wind at your back.


In some people's worlds they do! One of my Laborers just bought a nice Tundra mega cab 10" lift rolling on 37/13.50 mudders. Sweet looking truck fo sho. Said he was getting 26 mpg, lol!

To those touting the diesel, yes it is the superior choice for power, braking and heavier chassis, but the notion that hooking a trailer to a half ton occasionally is working it to death sounds like car salesman drivel.


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And start paying retail for services and repairs and a diesel cost more than a "little" more to maintain. Rolling up to a dealer service bay in a diesel is like hanging a plaque on the grille saying "overcharge me." Not that you won't spend more than you need to on a gasser, but the charges with a diesel are just "magical" sometimes.
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Some good stuff here - thanks! My current 150 EB has no engine braking to speak of, but uphill is no problem and it runs strong at 2500-3000 RPM. I've towed the same TH with a 3/4 ton Dodge Cummins, which was a more stable and relaxing TV esp downhill. I do a lot of hills in Oregon, mostly small ones, and I like to lower torque curve of the turbos (diesel or gas). I don't like to listen to a gas V8 run at 5-6k RPM to be in the meat of the curve. So the EB (470 ft lbs) or a diesel will fit the bill.

I have 8x 2 megawatt Cummins deisel gens at my shop so I know the costs of maintenance are up there. But I also have a lot of free motor oil laying around. [emoticon]

I'm leaning towards the F-250 diesel. The F150HD is very hard to find (I found 1), and I think either way I will need to order to get what I want. I do NOT want the FX4 package, and I DO want the Tow Tech package and that's been difficult to find on a F250 Crewcab.

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I would have the F150HD by special order.


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