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Posted: 10/07/19 10:59am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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Once the Shanghai factory is up and running and the European factory gets underway they can start to phase out US manufacturing.
Broke ground in January 2019, today the line is running for testing.
Incredible even for China. Impossible in the US.


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Reisender wrote:

Once the Shanghai factory is up and running and the European factory gets underway they can start to phase out US manufacturing.
Broke ground in January 2019, today the line is running for testing.
Incredible even for China. Impossible in the US.
That might be why you don't see people in the US walking around with masks on, and why they're omnipresent in China?


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That might be why you don't see people in the US walking around with masks on, and why they're omnipresent in China?
No. I don't think that is the reason.
More to do with pollution controls than constructing a factory with great expediency.

I don't think our air is cleaner because it takes twice as long to build something.

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time2roll wrote:

Reisender wrote:

Once the Shanghai factory is up and running and the European factory gets underway they can start to phase out US manufacturing.
Broke ground in January 2019, today the line is running for testing.
Incredible even for China. Impossible in the US.


Yah. I saw the video of the first model three on the adjoining test track they built. They are probably 6 to 9 months away from significant ramp up yet.

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time2roll wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:

That might be why you don't see people in the US walking around with masks on, and why they're omnipresent in China?
No. I don't think that is the reason.
More to do with pollution controls than constructing a factory with great expediency.

I don't think our air is cleaner because it takes twice as long to build something.
I was trying to get the idea across that it's the type of controls you have that make building/operating something more environmentally friendly. China fast tracks things regardless of whether they're harming the nearby environment. Things take longer here many times because there is more research done in potentially damaging effects. China, they just throw it up and worry about the ill-effects down the line.

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I was trying to get the idea across that it's the type of controls you have that make building/operating something more environmentally friendly. China fast tracks things regardless of whether they're harming the nearby environment. Things take longer here many times because there is more research done in potentially damaging effects. China, they just throw it up and worry about the ill-effects down the line.
Yes maybe your statement has some truth.

No idea if say the paint booth would have the scrubbers installed same as in California. Skipping a few of these steps could speed up construction and cause pollution in the future.

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time2roll wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:

I was trying to get the idea across that it's the type of controls you have that make building/operating something more environmentally friendly. China fast tracks things regardless of whether they're harming the nearby environment. Things take longer here many times because there is more research done in potentially damaging effects. China, they just throw it up and worry about the ill-effects down the line.
Yes maybe your statement has some truth.

No idea if say the paint booth would have the scrubbers installed same as in California. Skipping a few of these steps could speed up construction and cause pollution in the future.


Good God, lets hope they don't have the same paint scrubbers they have in Freemont!

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In other news lets look at Tesla growth.......or lack of!

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Have any of you fan bois looked at the CAPX of the Semi? Want some numbers? Just a hint? Here's a hint for you: It starts with zero and well, ends with zero! Yep, the answer is 0!!!

So how does that work fan bois? How do you have 0 CAPX for a Semi that is coming out next year?

Please do tell! [emoticon]


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Reisender wrote:

I think Tesla needs to hold on for another 12 to 18 months as a US company. Once the Shanghai factory is up and running and the European factory gets underway they can start to phase out US manufacturing.


Awesome, US tax payers fund development and start up costs to the tune of hundreds upon hundreds of millions dollars. Thank you middle class.

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philh wrote:

Reisender wrote:

I think Tesla needs to hold on for another 12 to 18 months as a US company. Once the Shanghai factory is up and running and the European factory gets underway they can start to phase out US manufacturing.


Awesome, US tax payers fund development and start up costs to the tune of hundreds upon hundreds of millions dollars. Thank you middle class.


Well, they are in the US now, and are the definitive leader at every level of the EV transportation disruption. And yet they can’t be sold legally in about half of the US states. Maybe some of the billions of subsidy moneys that go to the fossil fuel industry might be better spent on helping the world leader in EV technology fight a few legal battles so they can reach more US customers. Meh, no big deal. Those who want them will still be able to import them from China, or Germany, or wherever. Lol. [emoticon]. MAGA. Too funny. LOL

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philh wrote:

Reisender wrote:

I think Tesla needs to hold on for another 12 to 18 months as a US company. Once the Shanghai factory is up and running and the European factory gets underway they can start to phase out US manufacturing.


Awesome, US tax payers fund development and start up costs to the tune of hundreds upon hundreds of millions dollars. Thank you middle class.


Not to be picky but it's a lot more than hundreds of millions of dollars. It's the B word for Tesla.

And that article is over 4 years old.

One things for sure, Tusk knows how to farm the government for cash! He works the gov for money and then is going to scram to China! Nice! [emoticon]

Question for the fan bois on this forum: How much money is Tesla going to make this qt? Come on fan bois! Lets hear it!

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