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Posted: 10/18/19 06:33am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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8.1 Van wrote:

It looks like some flat earthers here are all bent out of shape that the days of rolling coal with GM.Ford and Dodge pickups are numbered.[emoticon]


If the majority of the vehicles are EVs then the power plants will literally be rolling the coal to keep those batteries charged.


Nope. It’s been calculated many times by many utilities all over the world. 20 percent increase in total grid load if tomorrow morning we woke up and every private vehicle magically became an EV overnight. BC hydros number is 19 percent.

“Is there enough electricity in the B.C. grid to power EVs?
January 18th, 2016

Yes, the number of EVs on the road represents less than 1% of all registered vehicles in BC. Even if all vehicles were to be replaced by EVs overnight, the demand on the grid would only increase by 19% over current base load. This is well in-line with the available capacity. Additionally, BC Hydro, in planning for future growth, is accounting for the electrical demand by EVs.”
LOL.... Heard about California lately???


Briefly on the BBC. Something about them turning off the power in certain areas because of forest fires or maybe forest fire prevention or something to that effect.

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I live in one of the areas affected by the Black Outs and 2017 fires. The interesting thing was the gas lines looked like the 70’s again. Grocery stores had a run also.
A neighbor asked what I was going to do if I needed supplies? I told him drive the 5 miles to where the power is still on.
I think it’s pretty cool they sent the message to charge before the shut off.
The shut off is infinitely better than a fire, trust me on that one.

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time2roll wrote:

Just find a grid expansion graph from the 1940s to current and today's work will seem rather inconsequential.
With all the modern technology today the extra 20% should be relatively simple.

How on earth did the transcontinental rail get built with hand tools and dynamite even while we fought the civil war. What a bunch of wussies we have today.


I should have known better than to get involved in this topic. Go ahead and hurl your personal insults. Have a good day.

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Posted: 10/18/19 03:14pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Not personal at all. Endemic in US culture. JMHO.

I did not direct my comment at anyone.

Here is a graph to keep it real:

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Note growth has been normal and ordinary since 1949 to 2005 and then it just stopped. Increased by a factor of 10x. We only need 0.2 for EVs.

Surely we can start moving ahead again as needed when needed for the EV parade.


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Posted: 10/18/19 05:38pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Opinion...my point of view is that a guy who 'personally' reaped tens to hundreds millions from his sale of PayPal and personally listed as worth north of $23 BILLION says he (yes, grocery/rent/etc money) has a cash flow issue and is illiquid...

And his corporations a ditto in cash flow issues and may not be profitable says he shouldn't be running that corporation using other peoples money...

He can burn his personal money as that is his own...but...when his corporation has IPO'd and gone through several public bond issues...he is burning other peoples money...albeit fan base who are gambling on his business acumen...



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Irrelevant.

His ability to pay for groceries has absolutely zero to do with Tesla's financial state.



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BenK wrote:

Opinion...my point of view is that a guy who 'personally' reaped tens to hundreds millions from his sale of PayPal and personally listed as worth north of $23 BILLION says he (yes, grocery/rent/etc money) has a cash flow issue and is illiquid...

And his corporations a ditto in cash flow issues and may not be profitable says he shouldn't be running that corporation using other peoples money...

He can burn his personal money as that is his own...but...when his corporation has IPO'd and gone through several public bond issues...he is burning other peoples money...albeit fan base who are gambling on his business acumen...

I don't disagree with anything you say, but I stand by my comment. His personal liquid position has zero to do with Tesla's current position.

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Posted: 10/18/19 08:52pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

BenK wrote:

Opinion...my point of view is that a guy who 'personally' reaped tens to hundreds millions from his sale of PayPal and personally listed as worth north of $23 BILLION says he (yes, grocery/rent/etc money) has a cash flow issue and is illiquid...

And his corporations a ditto in cash flow issues and may not be profitable says he shouldn't be running that corporation using other peoples money...

He can burn his personal money as that is his own...but...when his corporation has IPO'd and gone through several public bond issues...he is burning other peoples money...albeit fan base who are gambling on his business acumen..
This is exactly how much of America was built... using OPM.
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Tesla's CP4 pump.

Well lets see how Tesla handles this rookie mistake. People walk out to their 60 thousand dollar brick. I can't wait for the Semi! [emoticon]

Tesla can't even keep their toy cars running let alone a commercial semi.

We will find out in just a few day whether Tusk was correct or I was correct. Tusk says Tesla will make money this qt......I say no

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Posted: 10/18/19 10:58pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Of all the potential recall points Tusk has...this one, IMHO, is the of the highest order and most dangerous

This can happen at any moment

Worst case while a vehicle is traveling at a high speed on a curve...it bricks...

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Posted: 10/18/19 11:25pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Not what the article says. Blank screens and fail to charge is listed extreme result.

No mention of locking up, skidding off the road, rolling over and self igniting the battery.

In fact there is no mention of even one example....

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