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Tesla is not free although a feed years back some cars were sold with lifetime unlimited charging. Free would be a disaster as everyone would charge at Superchargers and plug them up instead of charging at home. There are still promotions where you can get three or 6 months free charging with the car. We got that. Only used about half of it as it is just more convenient to charge at home.

The cost varies by country and region but I think I read the average in the US right now is around 26 cents. Similar in Canada. Non Tesla Superchargers are typically about 33 to 45 cents but many are time based so it gets difficult to gauge.

A typical charge stop for us at a supercharger is about 11 bucks. But we generally run on 35 percent or better so don’t know what a full charge would be.


It was free for life the first several years of sales and then a few promotions thereafter but now you have to pay for the most part. Part of it is that Elon underestimated people's willingness and ability to cheat the system. Some people would rather drive to a Supercharger and get a free charge than simply plug it in at home and spend $5 charging it while they sleep. Others were literally putting Bitcoin mining computers in the car and just leaving the car at the charging station so that Tesla would pay for their Bitcoins.

So many people were using Tesla charging stations as parking lots that Tesla had start charging if your car was left there with a full charge for too long.

Some states do not allow reselling electricity by the Kwh so Tesla has to charge by the time that you are hooked up.


Yah, good breakdown and explanation. I’m on the fence with the pay by time thing. On the one hand I like the pay by time approach as it gets people out of the Superchargers or DC fast chargers faster as the last 5 or 10 percent is kinda slow charging. On the other hand there are those days you want a little more time as you are eating lunch or just are in a situation where you want a full charge. We have never had to pay idle fees yet but a few of our friends have. I
Not sure if the parameters around that. I have heard that if the Supercharger has less than half the bays occupied there are no idle fees. But not sure about that. Quite frankly with Covid and snowy roads we haven’t used a Supercharger in months.

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Back to the Semi, it appears that Tesla is getting serious enough about making some to start putting the work force together.

Tesla Nevada hiring people

Interestingly, producting may not be in Austin or Gigafactory 1 but in a building near Gigafactory 1 that Tesla leased nearly a year ago.

Nearby building

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The semi should be getting the new 4680 batteries,
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4680 batteries video


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The semi should be getting the new 4680 batteries,
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4680 batteries video



I am a big Tesla fan, but that picture is way out of proportion.

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Back to the Semi, it appears that Tesla is getting serious enough about making some to start putting the work force together.

Tesla Nevada hiring people

Interestingly, producting may not be in Austin or Gigafactory 1 but in a building near Gigafactory 1 that Tesla leased nearly a year ago.

Nearby building


About time.

It actually puzzles me that Tesla have been building Giga's all over the country when their Nevada facility is underutilized.

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Biiden plan to replace government vehicles with EV


The current administration is on board with country's march to EV.

650,000 is a lot!

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Biiden plan to replace government vehicles with EV


The current administration is on board with country's march to EV.

650,000 is a lot!


I saw that but after reading the artical no one has any capacity to build it to Bidens specs at this point and time. Lol. All smoke and mirrors at this point.


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Biiden plan to replace government vehicles with EV


The current administration is on board with country's march to EV.

650,000 is a lot!
That is more than Tesla produced all of last year.
I believe they will need to be US built so GM, Ford, Nissan and others may get a piece also.


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Biiden plan to replace government vehicles with EV


The current administration is on board with country's march to EV.

650,000 is a lot!


I saw that but after reading the artical no one has any capacity to build it to Bidens specs at this point and time. Lol. All smoke and mirrors at this point.


You must be kidding. Even Tesla can produce them if given the vendor exclusivity as this will be purchased over time.

I doubt though if Tesla will customize to produce those postal delivery vehicles -- so Ford, GM can get part of. the action.

And maybe Toyota, Nissan, too, if they can comply with the new and stricter American content mandate by Biden-Harris administration..

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Biiden plan to replace government vehicles with EV


The current administration is on board with country's march to EV.

650,000 is a lot!


I saw that but after reading the artical no one has any capacity to build it to Bidens specs at this point and time. Lol. All smoke and mirrors at this point.


I can see something like the Chevy Bolt having a role in some applications. It’s the right size, decent range, not crazy expensive, mostly good reputation. But it’s primarily a Korean car that is assembled in the US so not sure if it’s admissibility.

The Ford Mach E is kinda racy not to mention it is built in Mexico.

The various Tesla models are used in police forces already and I can see the plain Jane model 3 4 door sedan being a fit for some roles. The cheap Cybertruck might work.

Rivians Van should be a natural fit.

Most of the rest are European or Chinese. The Nissan Leaf is made in Tennessee. No idea how much comes from Japan. It would be a good fit in cooler climates. Leafs don’t like heat.

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