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There's an interesting phenomenon in high performance car arena. It really first showing up with Vipers. There was a high infant mortality rate due to single car crashes. People might have the money to buy a high performance car, but not the experience to handle it.

Bankruptcy... I've been forecasting that would have happened a few years ago. The corporate finances still suck, and the profit they are generating is coming from the sale of carbon credits. With Ford, GM, VW, and others getting really close to presenting a serious challenge to Tesla, it's going to get interesting. Selling carbon credits is going to get a lot harder, and Tesla may now have critical mass to overcome the impending serious competition. It's also interesting that Tesla manufacturing is more vertical than GM and Ford, which can help and hurt them. It helps, because they control everything. It hurts because it's difficult to continuously generate new technology. Design and employees can become stagnant.

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^^^ Agreed, right now Tesla is still making most of its money from carbon credits. The Model S and Model 3 are beautiful cars but getting long in the tooth style wise. The super high performance Plaid option is completely useless and makes the car little more than a rich person's plaything. I wish Tesla would put its terrific innovative capabilities into a practical car that everyone could afford. (Sorry, the Model 3 starting at $35K doesn't fall into that category) As for the Cybertruck and Semi, well, maybe they will actually be produced, maybe not.

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time2roll wrote:

No more predictions due to the impending bankwuptcy.


They moved into where's the semis and the Cybertruck when they realized that particular bus has left.

And they are about to spring the SNL gig now that the weed issue has lost its spark.

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philh wrote:

There's an interesting phenomenon in high performance car arena. It really first showing up with Vipers.
There was a high infant mortality rate due to single car crashes. People might have the money to buy a high performance car, but not the experience to handle it.

Bankruptcy... I've been forecasting that would have happened a few years ago. The corporate finances still suck, and the profit they are generating is coming from the sale of carbon credits. With Ford, GM, VW, and others getting really close to presenting a serious challenge to Tesla, it's going to get interesting. Selling carbon credits is going to get a lot harder, and Tesla may now have critical mass to overcome the impending serious competition. It's also interesting that Tesla manufacturing is more vertical than GM and Ford, which can help and hurt them. It helps, because they control everything. It hurts because it's difficult to continuously generate new technology. Design and employees can become stagnant.

High infant mortality ? / quote

Infants drive Vipers now!? LOL

GM Ford and V dub are nowhere near Tesla production numbers and never will,why, bc they would kill their ICE vehicles profits,

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rjstractor wrote:

^^^ Agreed, right now Tesla is still making most of its money from carbon credits. The Model S and Model 3 are beautiful cars but getting long in the tooth style wise. The super high performance Plaid option is completely useless and makes the car little more than a rich person's plaything. I wish Tesla would put its terrific innovative capabilities into a practical car that everyone could afford. (Sorry, the Model 3 starting at $35K doesn't fall into that category) As for the Cybertruck and Semi, well, maybe they will actually be produced, maybe not.

As Swiss bankers say,money has no smell,makes no diff where it comes from
Why doesnt GM sell carbon credits ? Or Frod or Chrysco

Tesla cant keep up w demand for all expensive models and you think they will lower the price!?
Or make cheaper car [emoticon] [emoticon]

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Gosh, I was gone for a week and saw activity on this thread. I was hoping for an update on the Semi. I was hoping for my groceries to get to the store by electric truck!


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Biden Test Drive F150 All-Electric Lighning.

Anyone else stoked about Ford's unveiling of all electric F150?

Politics aside, with Biden on the photo driving it, if his program to accelerate the adoption of EV, F150, the best selling vehicle ever, will be the one to do it. It just depends on it's competitive advantage, consumer acceptance (already a given but to include the all electric version) and how quickly they can re-tool and achieve scale.

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Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

Anyone else stoked about Ford's unveiling of all electric F150?

Politics aside, with Biden on the photo driving it, if his program to accelerate the adoption of EV, F150, the best selling vehicle ever, will be the one to do it. It just depends on it's competitive advantage, consumer acceptance (already a given but to include the all electric version) and how quickly they can re-tool and achieve scale.


Thank god it was in a controlled environment and not on a public street.
Politics aside, I wouldn't trust him to drive a riding mower or make toast without forgetting about it and setting off the fire alarm!


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Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

Biden Test Drive F150 All-Electric Lighning.

Anyone else stoked about Ford's unveiling of all electric F150?

Politics aside, with Biden on the photo driving it, if his program to accelerate the adoption of EV, F150, the best selling vehicle ever, will be the one to do it. It just depends on it's competitive advantage, consumer acceptance (already a given but to include the all electric version) and how quickly they can re-tool and achieve scale.


Yah kinda cool. I posted this in the tow vehicles forum but it was taken down. I think those sections are now only reserved for liquid fueled vehicles. Sad. Apparently there have been a lot of complaints about me posting topics involving alternative fueled tow vehicles. I’ve been put on a very short leash for posting anything. Meh. I get it. The Old timers go to senior centres do they can enjoy old movies and reruns of gun smoke. They don’t don’t want to come here and get barraged by new technology. I get it. I think this will be the only thread going forward that allows discussion of new technology vehicles that are not gas or diesel. It hidden away enough where it won’t insult the general membership. Meh. It’s all good. I suspect soon enough I’ll just get deleted from the Ether and I’ll become but a distant memory on RV.net. [emoticon].

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Grit dog wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

Anyone else stoked about Ford's unveiling of all electric F150?

Politics aside, with Biden on the photo driving it, if his program to accelerate the adoption of EV, F150, the best selling vehicle ever, will be the one to do it. It just depends on it's competitive advantage, consumer acceptance (already a given but to include the all electric version) and how quickly they can re-tool and achieve scale.


Thank god it was in a controlled environment and not on a public street.
Politics aside, I wouldn't trust him to drive a riding mower or make toast without forgetting about it and setting off the fire alarm!


Politics aside, must be the reason someone was only allowed to pull the lever of the horn for the semi. He must have an IQ of a gnat that's why he is not allowed to drive and just get a driver to go places.

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