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stsmark wrote:

I have wondered if the projected range numbers are at 55 mph, CA speed limit for vehicles towing. Or is it at 70-75 like other states.


Wa St is 60 MPH for rigs over 10k lbs or pulling trailers at any weight!

I recall Indiana? When I went thru their a decade or two ago, also was 55 for all rigs on an interstate. I can see why as they had off and on ramps, cities closer than other area's of the country.

Seattle where Ive lived since day one, used to be 55 in the center of town on I5. Not its 60 all the way thru. Reality, there is a 2-3 miles stretch that in general, no one even at midnight is driving much over 50-55. a 60 mph speed limit is not viable IMHO.

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stsmark wrote:

I have wondered if the projected range numbers are at 55 mph, CA speed limit for vehicles towing. Or is it at 70-75 like other states.


Accuracy, details, and specific requirements do not belong in marketing woo. The engineers will have to defend getting the range that E proclaimed. Since I just did a 780 mile trip from the far east of MI to far Southwest of Iowa, I know that truck speed limits in MI, IN and IL are 65 and IA is 70. Therefore, someone should be able to run from Detroit to Davenport IA on a single charge. Or a better run, Omaha to Chicago.


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free radical wrote:

Tesla semi w full load 600 mile range,that was 2019.
Driver should take a rest and recharge anyway by then.
I know I would. Lol


Many long distance OTR trucks run driver teams, those trucks are most profitable when wheels are turning 16+ hours a day. The Semi has a rated 500 mile range, which will make OTR operations less profitable even with the reduced cost of fuel. On the other hand, those electric rigs should shine in short haul and pickup/delivery operations.


Please keep your logical conditions and real world accepted scenarois out of this thread....lol.
If you're not riding a pink unicorn with a rainbow colored tail, your logic and sound judgement have no place here....
Cheers bro!

(Nevermind the ridiculous 11/14/60/70 hours of service limitations that have been put into law in recent years. Let's cripple the trucking industry even more as costs are also skyrocketing from every angle....)
The unicorn fart sniffers will be paying $20 for their $8 package of tofurkey at the Whole Foods before much longer....)


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rjstractor wrote:

free radical wrote:

Tesla semi w full load 600 mile range,that was 2019.
Driver should take a rest and recharge anyway by then.
I know I would. Lol


Many long distance OTR trucks run driver teams, those trucks are most profitable when wheels are turning 16+ hours a day. The Semi has a rated 500 mile range, which will make OTR operations less profitable even with the reduced cost of fuel. On the other hand, those electric rigs should shine in short haul and pickup/delivery operations.

Actualy I think EV will be more profitable bc diesel cost way more then electricity.
Not to mention maintanance oil changes etc.
So the EV driver can aford to take a break and recharge every 500 or so miles and still make decent profit.

How much exactly remains to be seen.
But definitely more then fosil fuel pusher.

Reminds me of someone working at Chryslers and he used to work only 4 days a week while other workers were pushing as much overtime as they could.

Dont know why maybe had other hobies or didnt care to pay too much income tax. Anyhow

Of course the big boss comes running and asks;
why are you working only four days a week ??

Dood says bc I cant make enough money in three days.

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Grit dog wrote:

Funny part is I actually see the potential value or convenience of future EVs. (Because it’s not there yet and if you think it is, you’re not good with money or have enough that it doesn’t matter.)
But the free radicals who aren’t problem solvers but rather just idealists still can’t get past the shiny new object!


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I personally can't wait for the Semi to hit the market with FSD.
The world is far too populated with kids anyway! Who needs the little bas......er nippers? [emoticon]

When this Semi comes out with FSD it will be like Frogger in real life. Only the agile will survive. Old people? Nope you're toast. Kids? Nope; not fast enough. It will be like the the movie The Purge in real life 24/7/365

No wait!!! THIS is how it's going to be!!! Except everybody on the street is at risk instead of just a guy in a Dodge Dart!! [emoticon]


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Grit dog wrote:

Please keep your logical conditions and real world accepted scenarois out of this thread....lol.
If you're not riding a pink unicorn with a rainbow colored tail, your logic and sound judgement have no place here....
Cheers bro!

(Nevermind the ridiculous 11/14/60/70 hours of service limitations that have been put into law in recent years. Let's cripple the trucking industry even more as costs are also skyrocketing from every angle....)
The unicorn fart sniffers will be paying $20 for their $8 package of tofurkey at the Whole Foods before much longer....)
Yes only Turtle is allowed to tell of the coming future (see just above). [emoticon]


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free radical wrote:

rjstractor wrote:

free radical wrote:

Tesla semi w full load 600 mile range,that was 2019.
Driver should take a rest and recharge anyway by then.
I know I would. Lol


Many long distance OTR trucks run driver teams, those trucks are most profitable when wheels are turning 16+ hours a day. The Semi has a rated 500 mile range, which will make OTR operations less profitable even with the reduced cost of fuel. On the other hand, those electric rigs should shine in short haul and pickup/delivery operations.

Actualy I think EV will be more profitable bc diesel cost way more then electricity.
Not to mention maintanance oil changes etc.
So the EV driver can aford to take a break and recharge every 500 or so miles and still make decent profit.

How much exactly remains to be seen.
But definitely more then fosil fuel pusher.

Reminds me of someone working at Chryslers and he used to work only 4 days a week while other workers were pushing as much overtime as they could.

Dont know why maybe had other hobies or didnt care to pay too much income tax. Anyhow

Of course the big boss comes running and asks;
why are you working only four days a week ??

Dood says bc I cant make enough money in three days.

That math MAY work with todays prices. But once electic demand goes up as everyone is charging their cars, it will get really pricey.


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These people never ceases to amaze me.

There is always a cloud in their silver lining and, if there's none, they'll get their hoses so they can make rain in somebody's parade.

Truckers and companies are lining up to reserve their semis.

And seriously, they don't think that these people and their analyst has not done their due diligence best use, cost-benefit... before they decided.

Come on!

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free radical wrote:

rjstractor wrote:

free radical wrote:

Tesla semi w full load 600 mile range,that was 2019.
Driver should take a rest and recharge anyway by then.
I know I would. Lol


Many long distance OTR trucks run driver teams, those trucks are most profitable when wheels are turning 16+ hours a day. The Semi has a rated 500 mile range, which will make OTR operations less profitable even with the reduced cost of fuel. On the other hand, those electric rigs should shine in short haul and pickup/delivery operations.

Actualy I think EV will be more profitable bc diesel cost way more then electricity.
Not to mention maintanance oil changes etc.
So the EV driver can aford to take a break and recharge every 500 or so miles and still make decent profit.

How much exactly remains to be seen.
But definitely more then fosil fuel pusher.

Reminds me of someone working at Chryslers and he used to work only 4 days a week while other workers were pushing as much overtime as they could.

Dont know why maybe had other hobies or didnt care to pay too much income tax. Anyhow

Of course the big boss comes running and asks;
why are you working only four days a week ??

Dood says bc I cant make enough money in three days.


How can you say diesel costs more than electricity? How much is a gallon of electricity or a batter full of diesel?
Again, you didn’t do the math, and while none of us can cite the actual cost and range of the mythical Tesla semi, if I take an actual towing power consumption of say a Ford lightning tow test, use that as a baseline for kWh/lb/mi to get the consumption of an 80klb semi and recharge it at $.25/kWh which is I believe an accurate rate for roadside Superchargers, I get an equivalent of about $5.50 per “gallon” of electricity to power a Tesla.
No bullchit….
Maybe I’m wrong and certainly neither of us have analyzed the rest of the costs/benefits of either setup. You didn’t even attempt to explain how you think apples cost more than toasters, so….
But at current (no pun) verified power consumption rates and charging rates, the gallon of electricity (at normal not inflated prices like fuel now) costs more than even the overpriced fuel we’re buying atm.

Next caller please ….

* This post was edited 09/01/22 12:00pm by Grit dog *

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