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Posted: 01/07/18 01:41pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

On our Crossroads Z1 252BH (year 2016), the a-frame/coupler is mounted underneath the main frame rails of the trailer, rather than butted up to the main frame rails...this configuration results in the coupler sitting about 8 inches lower than it would had the a-frame continued at the same level as the main rails...

What this causes is that the rig bottoms out on even mild bumps and inclines...the w/d bars scrape, the chains hit the roadway (causing the breakaway cable intertwined with the safety chain to scrape), and the umbilical scrapes...so far I've had to replace the umbilical and the breakaway once, and they both again need replacement...at some point I'll need to replace the w/d bars...

This issue never crossed my mind when I selected this unit...should've realized the issue before purchase...

Want to take a long road trip to the West this summer, but may actually not go unless I trade this unit...went to Big Bend last summer and even that amount of 'up the hill/down the hill' had everything bottoming out a lot.

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Posted: 01/07/18 02:01pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

A good trailer shop can cut off the old coupler and replace with a top mount flush fit a frame coupler in about an hour and for around $250 tops.





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Posted: 01/07/18 02:45pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

With that type of A-frame/trailer frame I would be more concerned with 'failure'

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Posted: 01/07/18 03:09pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Retired JSO wrote:

A good trailer shop can cut off the old coupler and replace with a top mount flush fit a frame coupler in about an hour and for around $250 tops.


The trick to rewelding the a-frame to the trailer frame differently is to have a seriously qualified welder do the job. One that can weld and who understands how steel and connections work. It can be done, and done properly, and well.

I would use lots of reinforcing plates across the seams.


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Posted: 01/07/18 03:33pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Camco (Eaz-Lift) makes a wd hitch that has the bars coming out of the top of the ball mount instead of the bottom to increase clearance. Might be worth a try.

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Old-Biscuit wrote:

With that type of A-frame/trailer frame I would be more concerned with 'failure'

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Saw that and tight away thought of Lippert components.


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Have you tried raising the hitch head one or two holes on the shank?.....and / or maybe a set of air bags on your Ram just enough to take the edge off.


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It sounds to me like the entire trailer probably sits pretty low, exacerbated by the low-slung tongue. Maybe you should consider flipping the axles and adjusting the hitch placement.

On edit, I looked at them. They don't look like they sit that low, except maybe the tongue. Maybe you should check into a different hitch configuration like another poster mentioned.

I could even see air bags on the truck making a difference for those times when you are maneuvering driveways, etc.

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SidecarFlip wrote:

Old-Biscuit wrote:

With that type of A-frame/trailer frame I would be more concerned with 'failure'

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Saw that and tight away thought of Lippert components.


Lippert builds ****, I've seen 12 year olds that can weld better than them.


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Posted: 01/07/18 10:23pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Maybe this would help.
https://www.reesehitches.com/products/RV........KW_uLu3mEcAMzv_mA0zMU6Sm5gkaAoYrEALw_wcB

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