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emcvay

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TxGearhead wrote:

2016 Ram 3500 SRW Laramie.

Oh ****. RAWR is 7,000 and payload is 4018.
I drained water down to 1/3 tank and rescaled.
Steer axle 5520
Drive axle 7,000
I'm still over payload by 102# and GVWR by 220#.

It drives good. I added a Bigwig and really couldn't tell a lot of difference.
More attention needed regarding what I pack.


What does the camper weigh dry? Trucks payload?

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emcvay wrote:

TxGearhead wrote:

2016 Ram 3500 SRW Laramie.

Oh ****. RAWR is 7,000 and payload is 4018.
I drained water down to 1/3 tank and rescaled.
Steer axle 5520
Drive axle 7,000
I'm still over payload by 102# and GVWR by 220#.

It drives good. I added a Bigwig and really couldn't tell a lot of difference.
More attention needed regarding what I pack.


What does the camper weigh dry? Trucks payload?


Truck payload is 4018#.
The bigfoot paper sticker in the wardrobe says 2779.33. Sticker on back of camper says 2620 with water and prpane. The difference is options..a/c, jacks, etc.
My scale weight with a full tank of water and not much else except a change of clothes and a sheet of plywood was 3880 .
The seller quoted the 2779.


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I got two trucks and no truck camper at the moment.

First one is a 2003 4x4 Chevy 2500hd, duramax, SRW, SWB, Super Springs, Ride Rite air bags 19.5 Vision rims and 14 ply tires. I had a big truck camper with slide on it. It handle it very well except I didnt like how heavy and tall it was. I never had it weighed but I was sitting at least a little over 4000 lbs and a little over 13 foot tall. Had a basement in it. I sold the camper in 2010. Not sure what I'm going to do with the truck yet.

Second truck I just bought for my business about three months ago. 2017 4x4 Ford F350, gas engine, LB, SRW, camper and snow plow package. I have no tiedowns or suspension upgrades. Plan is to do some light off road and put a Hallmark popup or a non basement North Star Igloo hardside camper on it.

I will not buy a hardside with a basement again. I don't like the 13 foot plus tall on a SRW and it limits you off road if you want to do a little light stuff.

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I carried an 11' camper on an '07 Chevy 3500 SRW. The camper is about 4,000 pounds loaded. With me, the wife, and the dog in the truck I was about 11,100 pounds going down the road. Sometimes I towed my 4,500 pound boat and trailer behind which probably added about 300 pounds in hitch weight. I never had any problems. I went thousands of miles thru multiple states. The wife even drove a time or two. I did have air bags on the rear and Bilstein shocks. The GVWR was 9,900. I wasn't over axle or tire ratings but the rear was really close.
When we started having kids the regular cab got too small so I upgraded to an '05 crew cab dually. The first time I loaded the camper on I could tell a huge difference in sway just going to the local gas station to get propane. The dually handles it much better. But, the SRW did fine. I had no complaints in the handling department. I regularly had the cruise on 70 mph and one hand on the wheel.

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This is what I found doing a VIN search on my truck which is a 2010 F350 Crew Cab SD XLT SRW 6.4l Diesel.

Vehicle Name
Ford Super Duty F-350 SRW
Body Style
Crew Cab, Crew Cab 8'
Body Code
172" WB
Drivetrain
4-Wheel Drive
Passenger Capacity
5, 6 5.0 min 6.0 max
Gross Axle Wt Rating - Front
6000, 5600, 5200, 4800 lbs 4400.0 min 6000.0 max
Gross Axle Wt Rating - Rear
6262, 7000 lbs 6262.0 min 7000.0 max
Curb Weight - Front
4758 lbs 3793.0 min 4758.0 max
Curb Weight - Rear
2968 lbs 2774.0 min 2968.0 max
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating Cap
11500 lbs 10000.0 min 11500.0 max
Gross Combined Wt Rating
23000 lbs 15000.0 min 23000.0 max

I just placed an order for an ArcticFox 990 Wet which should way about 3600 empty (shows a dry weight of 3010 without options that I'm told online weigh 564lbs making the camper 3574lbs total which is over my 'slide in camper' rating of 3370. I'm told this weighting assumes 6 passengers at 150lbs each which would make the camper + max passengers rating at 4270lbs but I could be totally wrong on that and wonder if anyone knows?

The GVRW is 11,500 if I read the above correctly with the rear weight slightly under 3000lbs with a max of 7000. Figuring the camper at 3600lbs without water, propane and batteries (I'm guessing here) would mean I'm at about 6600lbs. Add food, water and gear and that easily gets up to 7000lbs assuming the camper is 100% carried on the rear axle (I wonder how much of the weight is carried by the front).

I once weighed the truck at the garbage dump scales at 8240 with me in it (I'm 250lbs) including tailgate and tonnue cover. Figuring I lose about 80 lbs when I drop the tailgate and tonnue puts the truck right about 7910lbs leaving me 3590lbs. Assuming myself (250lbs) my wife (145lbs) and the above estimates on gear and camper etc (wet) and I'd be at about 11900lbs.

So over, for sure but how much of a worry I'm not sure.

I have Timbrens and am installing TorkLift Stable Loads and air bags. From what I've read the airbags won't do much but maybe help level the truck.

I have E rated tires that seem to say 3820lbs @ 80psi but they are hard to read and that might be 3620 (they are Cooper tires that were on the truck when I bought it)....so, assuming I don't replace those I think I'll be under their max but just barely (two tires at 3620 would be 7240 and 3820 is 7640).

I'm a little concerned because I haven't carried a load like this before (not in this truck though I've driven much bigger rigs in the military with heavy boxes on them).

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Decided to do more math and added FULL water and propane to see what that would do:
Water and Propane 746
Camper 3010
Options 565
Me 250
Wife 145
Total 4716
Truck 7910
Gross 12626
Axles 13000
Tires 14480
GVRW 11500
Overlimit 1126

So, no food, clothes, tools etc and I'm 1126lbs overweight by the above....add another couple hundred pounds of vitals and clothes, gear etc and I'd be pushing the max on the axles but not the tires and over the GVRW by some 1300-1500lbs

I'm guess this isn't anything unusual for SRW guys since I've seen TONS of pics of people with F350 SRW's like mine loaded with these campers, the 811's which aren't much lighter and the bigger campers too.

Hmmmmm

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I have an AF 990 and it weighs with gear and water 4,600+ lbs. Arctic Fox literature use to state that their campers were designed to be mounted on dual rear wheel trucks. We did an 8,600+ mile trip out west to visit 10 NP’s. We encountered dust devils in Nevada that would move our well equipped dually into the other lane, we spent a lot of time in the mountains on twisty roads and I wouldn’t advise an AF 990 on any SRW truck. Can it be done, anything is possible, but I RV because I want to enjoy the journey. Placing that camper on a SRW truck isn’t my idea of enjoyment.

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GeoBoy wrote:

I have an AF 990 and it weighs with gear and water 4,600+ lbs. Arctic Fox literature use to state that their campers were designed to be mounted on dual rear wheel trucks. We did an 8,600+ mile trip out west to visit 10 NP’s. We encountered dust devils in Nevada that would move our well equipped dually into the other lane, we spent a lot of time in the mountains on twisty roads and I wouldn’t advise an AF 990 on any SRW truck. Can it be done, anything is possible, but I RV because I want to enjoy the journey. Placing that camper on a SRW truck isn’t my idea of enjoyment.

I agree with that much weight it will have control over you and your truck.
Better to go lighter for single rear wheel.
If you can get a little under 3000 lbs dry weight you will be much happier on hauling a truck camper. Just my 2 cents.

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emcvay wrote:

Hmmm wonder how I find out about the rims? They look like stock rims to me (18").


Right here:https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas/topics/techspec.html


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Yeah, I'm looking at a dually or a for sale sign.

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