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I just bought a Champion 3500w with remote Generator and I am looking for a magnetic dipstick that has been recommended I can't really find one. I did get a hour meter. I don't want to hear you should of bought the RED one or the BLUE one.


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Not knocking the Champ, but something you may want to consider, Riders of Chinese motorcycles and other items have long known one of the best things they can do with a motorized device is change the oil almost immediately.
They typically change both the engine and tranny oils after only a few minutes operation to flush out most of the filings, which greatly increases longieviety.
I have never heard of any complaints concerning the Champs needing that practise, but the cost of a quart of oil is so low, that it seems prudent.

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They have them on amazon I believe! By the way Champion is a great choice. Love mine!!!!


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Not knocking the Champ, but something you may want to consider, Riders of Chinese motorcycles and other items have long known one of the best things they can do with a motorized device is change the oil almost immediately.
They typically change both the engine and tranny oils after only a few minutes operation to flush out most of the filings, which greatly increases longieviety.
I have never heard of any complaints concerning the Champs needing that practise, but the cost of a quart of oil is so low, that it seems prudent.

They don't come with oil, so that's not a problem.

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Colo Native wrote:

kerrlakeRoo wrote:

Not knocking the Champ, but something you may want to consider, Riders of Chinese motorcycles and other items have long known one of the best things they can do with a motorized device is change the oil almost immediately.
They typically change both the engine and tranny oils after only a few minutes operation to flush out most of the filings, which greatly increases longieviety.
I have never heard of any complaints concerning the Champs needing that practise, but the cost of a quart of oil is so low, that it seems prudent.

They don't come with oil, so that's not a problem.

I don't think that is what he is saying. I think he is saying once you put oil in it run it for a hour or so then change the oil with fresh oil. Champion says to do the same thing once you in box it.

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Never need to change the oil on the RED or BLUE ones I hear.


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ulvik wrote:

Colo Native wrote:

kerrlakeRoo wrote:

Not knocking the Champ, but something you may want to consider, Riders of Chinese motorcycles and other items have long known one of the best things they can do with a motorized device is change the oil almost immediately.
They typically change both the engine and tranny oils after only a few minutes operation to flush out most of the filings, which greatly increases longieviety.
I have never heard of any complaints concerning the Champs needing that practise, but the cost of a quart of oil is so low, that it seems prudent.

They don't come with oil, so that's not a problem.

I don't think that is what he is saying. I think he is saying once you put oil in it run it for a hour or so then change the oil with fresh oil. Champion says to do the same thing once you in box it.

Per Champion it has a 5 hour break in and then change oil.

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Still missing the point. The point is that there could be foreign objects in the system that could cause damage when it was built. By flushing the oil after a few minutes of running, the oil picks up and suspends those objects so they will be removed when the oil is changed.
Then refill and run for the 5 hour break in. Break in does contaminate oil as well, but with minute particles from wearing in, not the 'big' stuff from manufacturing.


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Still missing the point. The point is that there could be foreign objects in the system that could cause damage when it was built. By flushing the oil after a few minutes of running, the oil picks up and suspends those objects so they will be removed when the oil is changed.
Then refill and run for the 5 hour break in. Break in does contaminate oil as well, but with minute particles from wearing in, not the 'big' stuff from manufacturing.
I think those venerable red engines are built in China too. When I did my break in on my Champ, the oil did not have any filings in it. Change is happening in the generator world. Red and Blue better be ready.


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The oil flush is good for any engine I would presume. However, Honda does it for you. At least with the inverter series. I've bought a few and every one has the case drained of oil, not virgin. I believe they run their motors as a quality control test.
My Yamaha 2400 didn't have traces of oil in it's filler area though. Looked with a flashlight, it was dry. The Hondas all were wet with fresh oil.

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