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185EZ

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Posted: 11/05/18 08:00am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

You're misinterpreting everything I say.
I'm not griping over the cost of the analysis, I'm trying to justify it.
You're trying to beat the system by doing an analysis when it's just better to spend the money on an oil change.
What happens when they say you need an oil change? Now you have the cost of both.
In the long run you're the one wasting time and money while i'm enjoying fresh oil for my expensive ride.
Over a 3 year period I've spent about $150. Yours would be less with fewer qts of oil
If you take the time to send in an oil sample once a year you've spent $90 plus shipping?
Or are you going to wait till the extra 4000 miles and send in another oil sample?

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185EZ wrote:

You're misinterpreting everything I say.
I'm not griping over the cost of the analysis, I'm trying to justify it.
You're trying to beat the system by doing an analysis when it's just better to spend the money on an oil change.
What happens when they say you need an oil change? Now you have the cost of both.
In the long run you're the one wasting time and money while i'm enjoying fresh oil for my expensive ride.
Over a 3 year period I've spent about $150. Yours would be less with fewer qts of oil
If you take the time to send in an oil sample once a year you've spent $90 plus shipping?
Or are you going to wait till the extra 4000 miles and send in another oil sample?


No misinterpreting.

I can tell from (1) analysis over a given number of miles/time how long the will do it's job proper before needing changing. The VR-1 will start with a TBN of 8 in 3,720 miles (13mos) the TBN only dropped to 6.1

Still very excellent oil. It will do it's job no differently or less effectively than fresh oil. I'll skip (1) year. If my calculations are correct (based on other samples in the past in diff. vehicles) the oil will easily go another year. I've averaged between a 1-2.5 point TBN drop every 1 -1.5 years.

If I only spent $3X.XX dollars for oil & filter every (3) years I'll have saved money & time. And if I can go longer? No way to know unless you pull a sample...and how much do I save if I catch an impending issue via the analysis?

Priceless.

Anytime one saves that adds up to other savings.


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Clearly we will butt heads all day long on this.
I have other vices that I can throw $3X.XX away in a heartbeat,
But if all you're trying to save is $3X.XX dollars a year on something critical then someone once told me,

"My thought is if one gripes over the cost of even (1) then RV's aren't for you"

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I know you said your local FLAPS didn't have the proper viscosity but 20w50 isn't even close to being listed.
Not having problems with it is just your guess.
20w50 is used for high temp air cooled Harleys and my mercury racing motor recommends it especially since most of our boating is done in 85*+ temps.
That stuff must flow like molasses in january so the oil analysis would be beneficial for you.

This is your chart,

[image]Screenshot_1 by 185 EZ, on Flickr

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No gripes here about spending money on preventative maintenance
I've got too much at stake to wait till the last mile,
Better than spending $38+ on an analysis.
I didn't realize it costs an extra $10 for the TBN.
You'd be miles ahead by just changing your oil
Just don't use 20w50.
That's probably why you've had to rebuild so many big blocks, lol
[image]20181105_133348 by 185 EZ, on Flickr

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185EZ wrote:

Clearly we will butt heads all day long on this.
I have other vices that I can throw $3X.XX away in a heartbeat,
But if all you're trying to save is $3X.XX dollars a year on something critical then someone once told me,

"My thought is if one gripes over the cost of even (1) then RV's aren't for you"


A year?

Not even.

"I've got too much at stake to wait till the last mile"

Must explain the Fram filters you use. They don't even get to share the same room space with any of my vehicles.

Fram = Cra_

Mobil 1 Extended Performance, WIX or NAPA Gold filters or nothing.

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185EZ wrote:

I know you said your local FLAPS didn't have the proper viscosity but 20w50 isn't even close to being listed.
Not having problems with it is just your guess.
20w50 is used for high temp air cooled Harleys and my mercury racing motor recommends it especially since most of our boating is done in 85*+ temps.
That stuff must flow like molasses in january so the oil analysis would be beneficial for you.

This is your chart,

[image]Screenshot_1 by 185 EZ, on Flickr


Flow like molasses...no

You do realize it's a MULTI viscosity oil eh. It doesn't say 50w-20.

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The fram filters I use are the top o the line if you look closely.
They wouldn't be in business if they were so bad.
I bet you say armor all is bad too?
You're waiting for your filters to fill up the pores so they filter better, lmao.
Kind of like saying 20w50 is good for your motor, lol.
Did you even read the manual? Or is that not good enough for you either? Smarter than the engineers I see.
You're just into the old wive's tales of 50 years ago.
20w50 is obviously the wrong viscosity but you're too stubborn to accept your mistake.
And sorry you wasted your money on an analysis. You didn't even do it correctly to obtain good results.
Read this,
https://parts.olathetoyota.com/blog/4680/is-oil-testing-worth-doing/

* This post was edited 11/10/18 02:22pm by 185EZ *

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185EZ wrote:

The fram filters I use are the top o the line if you look closely.
They wouldn't be in business if they were so bad.
You're waiting for your filters to fill up the pores so they filter better, lmao.
Kind of like saying 20w50 is good for your motor, lol.
Did you even read the manual? Or is that not good enough for you either? Smarter than the engineers I see.
You're just into the old wive's tales of 50 years ago.
20w50 is obviously the wrong viscosity but you're too stubborn to accept your mistake.
And sorry you wasted your money on an analysis. You didn't even do it correctly to obtain good results.
Read this,
https://parts.olathetoyota.com/blog/4680/is-oil-testing-worth-doing/


Frams history of less than stellar quality speaks for itself. Been building big blocks longer than I can remember as well as air-cooled Type-4 engines they don't have issues with 20W-50. Ever stick an oil pressure gauge on and look? I have.

Oil filter efficiency does increase with use. Fact

One doesn't waste time when doing an analysis. You waste time by guessing. Old wives tale? If that were the case I'd be changing it too early like you and (for no reason). Newer oil will NOT preform better than a current oil that has a high TBN. Saying otherwise is a wives tale.

And by the way....these aren't Toyota engines. LOL!

* This post was edited 11/07/18 11:49pm by udidwht *

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Fram equals ****.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTNJLEV8CG8&index=102&list=WL

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