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BeerBrewer

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We've decided to replace our truck (2006 Tundra) with a 3/4 ton truck. I've looked at new and used. Today I saw a couple of very nice used 3/4 ton trucks (Ford and Ram) and I've got a couple questions that I haope you can help with. First, none of the used trucks were equipped to handle a 5th wheel (meaning none had the factory prep package). The sales guy said that it could be easily added, but he didn't know how much it would cost. Is this expensive? Should this work be done by the truck dealer or a could it be done by an RV dealer?

The one dealer (RAM) assured me that his used truck was equipped with the proper rear end (3.73) so it can tow and the other dealer didn't know off hand, but is checking. Is there any way for me to verify, say with the VIN number? I'd like to double check whatever they tell me.

Lastly, we don't have a trailer...yet. We decided (with your help) that our old truck can only safely tow a very light trailer, so we are upgrading. There a couple trailers we really like and they are all have GCWs less that 9000 lbs. We are slightly leaning towards a 5th wheel, but one that's no longer that 30'.

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“The sales guy said...” Gee, why don’t I believe the sales guy? lol

Violate the rule at your peril! Buy or select the TT/5er FIRST and THEN buy an adequate tow vehicle.


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Forget a 2500, instead just go to a 3500 SRW. Many 2500 series trucks can easily get overloaded quickly. If your ever thinkingmofma fiver get a 3500 for sure. A TT will plave approx 10-15% of their loaded weight on the vehicle. A fiver will place approx 20% of their loaded weight directly over the rear axle. Even a lightly loaded 30 foot fiver could dump over 2000 pounds on the truck.
Most 2500 series trucks will only have a real world payload of 2000 pounds.


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I don't know about the VIN number check but my RAM 3500 didn't have a factory 5th wheel prep package. I just had the dealer where I bought my 5th wheel put one in. It consists of two rails that the hitch pins to with 4 pins. Easy to put in and take out. I have the B&W Patriot 16K hitch that was recommended to me in these forums by MFL. I couldn't be happier. I had a 35 foot travel trailer before and now have a 34 foot 5th wheel. I am so happy with the decisions I made. Take the advice of other long standing members here when they reply to you and you too will be happy. This place has so many members with a wealth of information!

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5th wheel hitch components can be added quite easily. I can't comment on cost as I'm not in the USA.

Are you shopping for gas or diesel?

That makes a difference as to which axle ratio would be suitable, though most any 3/4 ton truck will be fine with an RV with a 9000# GVWR.

For RAM, just google RAM VIN DECODER and type in the VIN. It'll give you a good idea about axle ratio and options the truck has. A call to a dealer would enable you to get the "build sheet" for a used truck that would give all the details.


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06 Chevy 1500 4x4 E-Cab 3.73 5.3L
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You don’t need the underbed “factory hitch prep” if you don’t mind having the mounting rails in the bed. No big deal, but some prefer the underbed mounts.

What year model trucks are you looking at. Could easily influence the recommendations.

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The Ford is a diesel and the Ram uses gas.

As for a 350/3500 I'd consider one.

The used ford dealer told me the used 250 had a 3.73 rear axle, but I don't that is correct. According to what I've read the diesel came with either the 3.31 or 3.55 rear axle. I'd rather have them say they don't know than give me wrong info.

Also Ford claims that the max 5th wheel towing for the F250 diesel is 16,500 lbs and its max payload us 3120. So do I really need a 350/3500? Don't get me wrong, I'd consider one, I'm just asking. I would think that the 350/3500 ride is more harsh.

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What year Ford? The 6.0 and 6.3L Ford diesels were junk, so avoid them like the plague.

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I have had F250 SD's 1999-2015 and went to a F350 in 2014. (yes 2 SD's at the same time) The F350 is more stable towing the same 5W. Don't know how old your looking at but the 6.7 is the best diesel I have had. 7.3 was good & reliable, 6.0 had more power but had factory issues, my 6.7 has been flawless so far at 70K.

Make the 5W kit part of the deal, install it or I'll keep looking. They want the sale they will step up.


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Max payload and the actual payload on most trucks on the lot are 2 very different things. Max payload comes with a barebones truck. I'm just starting my truck shopping adventure. Best to just look at the yellow label on each truck, that will tell you the as equipped number. Most of the sales people don't seem to understand the concept, they almost universally tout the max trailer weight and glaze over at a mention of payload. Glad the stickers are there now.





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