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I have a high quality rv. We were thinking about trading for a newer model however could not find one with equal quality. We have a Carriage Cameo that has very little if any Lippert parts. I’ve dealt with Lippert and they are a poor excuse. Anyway we will stick with our 31ft. Cameo, that looks like new.


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mtofell1 wrote:

Consumers have ultimately laid the framework for the state of the industry. We are not willing to pay for quality (or buy the big trucks necessary to move a quality unit). How many Mobile Suites are sold compared to Keystone trailers? There are high quality units out there.... we just prefer go for a cheap one and then be frustrated about it (no slam intended at the OP.... I'm right there with you).


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consumers set the market... as long as people buy them they will continue to be produced cheaply as possible. at least they are not assembled in china..

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The interesting part is when an RV owner has valid complaints about quality and engineering, many choose to side with the manufacturer and criticize the buyer for the audacity to complain. Either the manufacturers are moles on the various forums or the those who stick up for the manufacturers are less than intelligent.

BTY proper engineering and QC does not need to cost more money. In fact poor engineering and QC does cost more money if one cares to consider warranty costs and loss of business.

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justme wrote:

The interesting part is when an RV owner has valid complaints about quality and engineering, many choose to side with the manufacturer and criticize the buyer for the audacity to complain. Either the manufacturers are moles on the various forums or the those who stick up for the manufacturers are less than intelligent.

BTY proper engineering and QC does not need to cost more money. In fact poor engineering and QC does cost more money if one cares to consider warranty costs and loss of business.


Problem is MOST have not a clue with what QUALITY is and DAT's DA facts.


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BTY proper engineering and QC does not need to cost more money. In fact poor engineering and QC does cost more money if one cares to consider warranty costs and loss of business.


It needs to be good enough. As long as units are flying out the door thanks to a booming economy and ultra low interest rates, junk quality is good enough.

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How long should an RV last? I think the answer compared to actual would be a barometer for quality.


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philh wrote:

justme wrote:

BTY proper engineering and QC does not need to cost more money. In fact poor engineering and QC does cost more money if one cares to consider warranty costs and loss of business.


It needs to be good enough. As long as units are flying out the door thanks to a booming economy and ultra low interest rates, junk quality is good enough.



The unfortunate truth is that when the economy was poor and interest rates were higher people still prefered to save money by buying junk. Most of the better quality RV manufacturers went tits up. Generally RV buyers choose features over quality. The RV manufacturers that survived offered more features for less money at the expense of quality.


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The unfortunate truth is that when the economy was poor and interest rates were higher people still prefered to save money by buying junk. Most of the better quality RV manufacturers went tits up. Generally RV buyers choose features over quality. The RV manufacturers that survived offered more features for less money at the expense of quality.



Unfortunately, that may be somewhat true. However, poor management, inadequate marketing, limited innovation and limited corporate financial resources are primary reasons for failure. The RV industry is no different in those aspects than other industries. However, the RV industry seems to promote customer loyalty over Quality. They do this with success using the Internet and social media. After visiting many of the RV forums, I am amazed at how the RV manufacturers have effectively promoted the use social media to promote comradery and brand loyalty of its users to minimize expectations of quality and engineering.

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philh wrote:

justme wrote:

BTY proper engineering and QC does not need to cost more money. In fact poor engineering and QC does cost more money if one cares to consider warranty costs and loss of business.


It needs to be good enough. As long as units are flying out the door thanks to a booming economy and ultra low interest rates, junk quality is good enough.


x2 Just ask Wallmart.

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philh wrote:

justme wrote:

BTY proper engineering and QC does not need to cost more money. In fact poor engineering and QC does cost more money if one cares to consider warranty costs and loss of business.


It needs to be good enough. As long as units are flying out the door thanks to a booming economy and ultra low interest rates, junk quality is good enough.


x2 Just ask Wallmart.



Walmart offers lower prices on mid to low quality. While the new low price/quality stores( https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/the-dollar-store-backlash-has-begun/ar-BBRdPzh?ocid=spartandhp )are now rapidly growing. The RV industry seems to be following this trend.

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