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This is a silly question I am sure, but here it goes. I know you can weigh your rig at a truck stop on their scales. I was wondering if you can use those random truck scales on the side of the highway or do they frown upon that? Also would It get me the weights i want (tongue weight, trailer weight, truck weight, and combined weight. I know (at least near me) the state police sometimes search vehicles there, which would be a pain. That is all I have near me though and I want to get the weights of my unit. Thanks

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California frowns on weighing RVs at state truck stops. Why don’t you ask Maryland DOT/highway patrol? Paying at a private truck stop seems more ethical IMO.

My only concern with a state search of my vehicle would be the question “why do you carry all this stuff?”


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I always do in Oregon, they leave the scale on even when knowone is there.


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I wouldn't get in a line of truckers that are waiting to be scaled. Most likely if you do you will get the green light....and a good grump out from the officer in the scale house.
Your state dot would be the place to ask that question though. They have the answer.


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To me closed DOT scales are fair game, there is one near Portland on Hwy 26 that is large and wide easy place to drop the trailer an just scale the the TV, when closed.


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"Your state DOT would be the place to ask that question though. They have the answer."

There's the best answer since things may be different in your state of Maryland than they are in Oregon. Good luck.

Also, the TA service center in Jessup has a CAT scale.


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The Pilot station near us gives two certified scales weights for $12.00.

The first is the truck only front and back axel weights. The second is truck with trailer; truck front and rear axels and the trailer axels.

I get a print out that allows me to see axel weights before and after hookup.

The total weight change tells me the weight of the trailer.
The total weight change minus the trailer axel weight tell me how much is on the tongue, with the WD hitch adjust.

I do not know or care about the unhitched trailer tongue weight before it was redistributed by the WD hitch, because I do no tow without the WD hitch.

$12.00 with a certified print out seems like a good deal to be. I usually weight between each major trip, as out trailer load varies a lot between trips.


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mountainkowboy wrote:

I always do in Oregon, they leave the scale on even when knowone is there.


x2. I only use them when "closed", and if a trucker pulls in I move off and let them weigh. yes, oregon leaves them "open" and on 24/7. Don't know about other states.

I figure that since they leave the scales on 24/7 and the entrance open 24/7 that they do that for a reason...... to let drivers come in and get a weight...... So, I use them on occasion.

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rhagfo wrote:

To me closed DOT scales are fair game, there is one near Portland on Hwy 26 that is large and wide easy place to drop the trailer an just scale the the TV, when closed.


yup, if it's the same one I'm thinking of, it's a good one that is usually "closed" so it's readily available. However, trucks coming from the coast do pull in occasionally to weigh then pull onto 26.

Used it many a time. lots of room, easy to access.

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I do not know or care about the unhitched trailer tongue weight before it was redistributed by the WD hitch, because I do no tow without the WD hitch.



There have been many discussions about this over the years. The engineers on this forum disagree with your thinking. I do not remember the exact reasoning, but TW WITHOUT WD needs to be under your TVs rating...

As usual on this forum, those with TVs that do not have sufficient rating, want to figure it the other way.

For example: Lets say your TV has a 500# limit without WD, and a 1000" limit with. (a very common rating)
WD shift about 1/3 of that weight to the Front axle of the TV, and about 1/3 to the TT axles.

Under your thinking, you could now go all the way up to 1333# of TW.... In fact some go even further. They go by what weight WD leaves on the rear axle. That means that they think the TW rating can go up to 1666#!!! Does that really make any sense?

Disclaimer: these figures are a guestimation. The actual numbers depend on several factors such as the TVs rear overhang, wheelbase, and the TTs distance from hitch to axles.

People are very good at rationalizing things the way they want them to be.... Rather than seeing them the way they are.



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