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Hey All,

New to the 5th wheel side of camping. Just renewed our new 5th wheel registration (picked it up in Nov 2018 but it expired Dec 31st) and in New York they apparently make you register 5th wheels as a "House Trailers"? Seems odd as it's not "Park Model" or permanent residence. Lady at the DMV couldn't give me an explanation why. Is there a certain weight threshold that designates them as "houses"?

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Ask NY DOT/DMV.


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Just bought a fifth also. And I am also in NY. Bought from a private owner. Transferred to me no problem. No mention of "house trailer" on the title, just manufacturer name and weight. 14,000 LBS gross.
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I think most places call them house trailers. You pull them down the road so they are a trailer. You live in them even if only part time so it is a house.


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Maybe it has something to do with the overall length or weight. My prior TT (23' and 4,500 lbs) was registered in NY as a trailer while the new one (32' and 8,800 lbs) is registered as a house trailer.

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Lived in NY all my life and have had a 5th wheel trailer and have never heard one called a "house trailer". I renewed mine several times and it was registered as a trailer just like my current trailer. Something doesn't sound right.

EDIT: After checking my regi today, it does say H/TR and mine is a TT. No idea when it changed. Maybe we can get tax breaks for owning 2 homes? Ya right!

* This post was edited 01/08/19 03:11pm by mooky stinks *


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What is the actual concern over it being called a "house trailer"? Are the fees more and/or does it lead to greater restrictions? Otherwise, I wouldn't care what they called it at the DMV.


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I never noticed it on my previous TT but on my current 2010 Gulf Stream TT the registration does list it as H/TR (house trailer). Gross weight is 11,170. The title also says H/TR. My other trailers only say TRLR.
I don't see it as a problem.

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WTP-GC wrote:

What is the actual concern over it being called a "house trailer"? Are the fees more and/or does it lead to greater restrictions? Otherwise, I wouldn't care what they called it at the DMV.


The unknown reason for the change is the concern. In NYS anytime there is a change in classification the sneaky suspicion is the state is trying to get more money out of you.

* This post was edited 01/08/19 01:40pm by 2edgesword *

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after getting a closer look at my registration, it does in fact say house trailer on the paperwork. Never noticed it till now. My rig is a 1997, so it appears the DMV has been doing this for sometime. Don't think its much of a concern.

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