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DrewE

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Posted: 02/02/19 09:02pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

You can avoid a good bit of toll expense by taking I-88 and I-86 rather than I-90 across New York. In my opinion, it's a prettier route as well. It is a little longer distance (and time).

There are good reasons other than avoiding tolls to not take I-95 (or I-87) up via the George Washington Bridge; they are very much going through the middle of New York City, at least the Bronx, and so are busy, busy roads, sometimes slow, and often not all that smooth. You must also avoid nearly all of the parkways as trailers are restricted (and many/most also have some pretty low clearances). The Garden State Parkway is the notable exception; RVs are permitted on it throughout its length.





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Tolls are pretty hard to avoid in the NE. I'd suggest getting an EZ-Pass account and tag which means you just drive through the booth and the RFID transponder just dings you for the toll, with an auto refill of the account via linked credit card. Yes, the GW Bridge is expensive to cross, and traffic on the Cross Bronx (I-95) up through Westchester and onto the Connecticut Turnpike is just brutal for about 20 hours a day.

A much better way is up the Garden State Parkway in NJ to the NYS Thruway (I-87/287), over what was the Tappan Zee Bridge (now named after Mario Cuomo) to I-684 to I-84 East through Hartford and onto Massachusetts. If any of the route is going to coincide with rush hours (6:30-9:30am and 3:30-7:30pm), I will even take a bigger detour and do the Thurway the other direction north almost to Albany and pick up the Mass Pike extension (I-90). 60 miles further and most of the time a shorter trip timewise due to no traffic. Really nice scenery just about all that ride too.

Big warning: The only "parkway" you can tow a trailer on anywhere in the northeast geography is the Garden State Parkway in NJ. Huge no-no with big tickets and fines on any in NY, as well as the Palisades Parkway in NJ. Also, low clearance bridges.

On edit: I posted before reading to the end of the thread; still, cannot stress the importance of staying off the NYS parkways and the Palisades.


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kyteacher wrote:

Thank you all for the suggestions. The 2 days off school this past week for the cold weather here in KY allowed some time to read up and make some reservations. We got our first 12 days reserved. Here's what we have so far:

Day 1a/1b- leave a half day early and drive to Philly south KOA- 2 nights

Day 2- Tour philly- liberty bell, historic stuff...

Day 3- Drive to liberty harbor campground- 3 nights

Day 4-5 Tour NYC (never been there)

Day 6- drive from liberty harbor to normandy farms campground (foxboro, MA)

Day 7- Boston- freedom trail

Day 8- Cape cod (whale watching)

Day 9- drive to Narrows Too campground outside of Acadia

Day 10-11- Acadia

Day 12- drive to timberlands campground- White mountains, NH

Day 13-15- drive home making a few quick stops along the way

White Mtns to Syracuse area

Syracuse area to Cleveland area

Cleveland to home


I know it is not possible to avoid tolls, but now my route planning is going to be balancing keeping the drives as short as possible while avoiding the "big" tolls (I'm looking at you George Washington Bridge).

Thanks again for the help. We are defiantly going to save the Canada trip for another day. Although, when my wife saw how close PEI is to Acadia she tried to talk me into extending the trip, but she is just starting a new job so longer than 15 days off may be pushing it a little.


As mentioned, may consider when leaving liberty Harbor, taking I78 west, then pick up I287 north/east to the Tappanzee bridge. once over the hudson river pick up I684 north to I84 east to CT/Hartford/Boston

All traffic is bad in the area but the GW bridge and I95 through NY/CT takes it to another level.

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kyteacher wrote:

Thank you all for the suggestions. The 2 days off school this past week for the cold weather here in KY allowed some time to read up and make some reservations. We got our first 12 days reserved. Here's what we have so far:

Day 1a/1b- leave a half day early and drive to Philly south KOA- 2 nights

Day 2- Tour philly- liberty bell, historic stuff...

Day 3- Drive to liberty harbor campground- 3 nights

Day 4-5 Tour NYC (never been there)

Day 6- drive from liberty harbor to normandy farms campground (foxboro, MA)

Day 7- Boston- freedom trail

Day 8- Cape cod (whale watching)

Day 9- drive to Narrows Too campground outside of Acadia

Day 10-11- Acadia

Day 12- drive to timberlands campground- White mountains, NH

Day 13-15- drive home making a few quick stops along the way

White Mtns to Syracuse area

Syracuse area to Cleveland area

Cleveland to home


I know it is not possible to avoid tolls, but now my route planning is going to be balancing keeping the drives as short as possible while avoiding the "big" tolls (I'm looking at you George Washington Bridge).

Thanks again for the help. We are defiantly going to save the Canada trip for another day. Although, when my wife saw how close PEI is to Acadia she tried to talk me into extending the trip, but she is just starting a new job so longer than 15 days off may be pushing it a little.


Looks good. We have done almost all the same places and have enjoyed them. Canada is a great trip to save for itself. You won't doing it justice to just drive thru.

In Acadia make sure to do sunrise on Cadillac Mountain and if you have time the Timber Tina's Logging show.

We used the same campground as our base for Boston. It was great! Boston is a big city, so wear comfortable shoes. We also did an amazing whale watch out of Boston. Saw so many whales you didn't know were to look.

When in Philly it is best to order your tickets for Independence Hall on line before your trip, as tickets go fast. Get in line for the Liberty Bell early, as it can get long. The Mint is close and free if you have a few minutes to fill.

Plymouth Rock was very disappointing in person, so save that for last if you have time.

A drive up Mount Washington is nice.

Portland Maine is a great city too. Nice walk along the waterfront with great restaurants.


Happy Trails...


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Regarding planning around tolls, if you do opt for any part of the NYS Thruway, you can calculate your likely toll(s) (and make sure to have enough cash) via their website


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So I don't know if I need to move this over to roads & routes but I do have a few questions about which roads are toll and which are not.

So my plan was to leave Louisville and go through Charleston, WV and across I-68 to I-70 go around Baltimore and up I95 to the KOA. I was trying to skip the I-76 Penn toll road.

Take 95 in to NYC.

Leaving NYC, I think we are going to be leaving late morning 10-11ish. I was planning on routing over the tappen zee (sp?) bridge to avoid the GW bridge. Follow I95 up to Foxboro.

And I guess pretty much stay on 95 in to Maine.

Most of my day drives up the NE are fairly short <300 miles per day. So if I need to extend a drive to avoid a big toll I am willing. If we are talking a couple bucks, I'm not too worried about that.

DrewE, you suggested skipping 90 coming home from Albany to NY state line by taking 88-86. I guess those aren't tolled? It doesn't look too much longer. Wonder if there are any National Park stops along any of that section.

Again, thank you guys for all the help. We are really excited to take our girls to this part of the country. They are in the 8th/5th grade and currently both studying the revolutionary war in their schools. It will be a lot of fun to take them to some of the real places where history took place.

Now I just need to start working on them for that early wake up call to do sunrise on Cadillac Mtn. Sunrise is really early on june 28/29th.

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I-95 in Maryland and Delaware are toll roads. 95 continues up through Philadelphia, but pretty much dead ends at Trenton, NJ, wrapping around as 295, ending up heading south, unless taking 195 to the NJ Turnpike at Exit 7A. The Delaware Memorial Bridge is free northbound, and from there the choices are 295 north to 195 to the Turnpike, or just pay the turnpike toll from its southern terminus, as there really isn't a choice from Exit 7A north anyway.

The Tappan Zee (now named Mario Cuomo) is tolled also.

I-95 through Connecticut until east of New Haven is awful traffic pretty much all times of the day. That 60 miles has taken me as long as 3 hours on a Friday afternoon. 684 to 84 to the Mass Pike is better, or the scenic route up the Thruway to the Mass Pike extension better still from a traffic point of view.

On the return, yes, 88 and 86 are non-tolled interstates.

It really is impossible though to get around the northeast without paying highway and bridge tolls. Hence my suggestion of the EZ Pass tag. That will at least make it convenient and allow for passing through rolling and no cash out-of-pocket.

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Definitely take the Tappan Zee instead of the GWB. Yes, it has a toll, bug is a much easier drive.

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Philly is great! I'd go back.
We all enjoyed touring the Eastern State Penitentiary. Kids were 7, 11, and 13 at the time. They got to try out the cell lock where Capone stayed. It was a unique experience.
We also drove over the bridge to New Jersey to tour Battleship New Jersey.
Liberty bell only takes a few minutes.

FYI- if you want to tour Independence Hall in Philly or the Statue of Liberty at all, you need to purchase tickets in advance. It's well worth scheduling your day around a tour of the crown of the Statue of Liberty if they're still available, it was awesome!

When we stayed at Liberty Harbor, we took a ferry over to NYC and right where we got off the ferry, there's a stop for the on-off tour bus. We did try the subway too, but we found the on-off bus a great way to sit back and tour NYC.

Enjoy your trip!


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