RV.Net Open Roads Forum: Fifth-Wheels: Setting Up Tow Vehicle w/hitch, Etc

RV Blog

  |  

RV Sales

  |  

Campgrounds

  |  

RV Parks

  |  

RV Club

  |  

RV Buyers Guide

  |  

Roadside Assistance

  |  

Extended Service Plan

  |  

RV Travel Assistance

  |  

RV Credit Card

  |  

RV Loans

Open Roads Forum Already a member? Login here.   If not, Register Today!  |  Help

Newest  |  Active  |  Popular  |  RVing FAQ Forum Rules  |  Forum Posting Help and Support  |  Contact  

Search:   Advanced Search

Search only in Fifth-Wheels

Open Roads Forum  >  Fifth-Wheels

 > Setting Up Tow Vehicle w/hitch, Etc

Reply to Topic  |  Subscribe  |  Print Topic  |  Post New Topic  | 
Page of 4  
Prev  |  Next
Sponsored By:
2012Coleman

Florida

Senior Member

Joined: 08/20/2012

View Profile






Posted: 04/02/19 05:11am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Here's my 2 cents:

Why the mega cab? I have the crew cab and there is more room than my kids and dog need back there. The mega cab gives you the ability to recline the back seat and takes away bed length.

I didn't have the factory installed pucks, so I bought them from the dealer and had a custom welding/hitch shop install them - same guy has done this for me twice. He installed the in bed plug. The good news on that is that you don't have to splice any wires - its plug and play. After drilling the hole for it.

I read all the comments of those who say "I have a short bed and have never had to slide". Or - "If you are aware of your surroundings - blah blah". Well, I bought the B&W companion slider from ETrailer.com. Brought the new fifth wheel home and proceed to back up into the driveway on residential street without sliding. Didn't take long to hear the sound of breaking glass. And you can pay attention all you want, but you just can't see the corner of the trailer through the back pillar - unless you have X-Ray vision. Slid the trailer back and was amazed at how much easier it was backing. Went on the shake down trip with plastic over the back window. Sure, there are situations where I don't have to slide but every camp site I've been to has required it - with the exception of the one pull through site, and backing into my driveway - well, lesson learned.

So if you have a big piece of land and don't ever expect to be in a situation where you are backing at a sharp angle, by all means, get the non sliding hitch with your short bed (even shorter with mega cab) pickup.

The auto sliding hitches I researched required that you back up straight into the hitch - not at an angle. If you get the wheel to wheel side steps, you won't need a step stool or to hop on the tire to release the handle for either the jaws or slider. The B&W is a great hitch - compare to the others. Etrailer will drop ship it for free.

Too be fair, the B&W slider is heavy. I have to remove the tail gate and remove it with an engine puller. They make a gizmo that you lock into the jaws. You can then hook to it and lift the whole hitch at once. But I can do that myself. Unless you have a couple of friends at hand.

Good luck.

* This post was edited 04/02/19 05:19am by 2012Coleman *


Experience without good judgment is worthless; good judgment without experience is still good judgment!

2018 RAM 3500 Big Horn CTD
2018 Grand Design Reflection 303RLS

garyp4951

TN

Senior Member

Joined: 12/06/2010

View Profile


Offline
Posted: 04/02/19 07:05am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

[image]

This gizmo plus an electric HF ceiling hoist make it a 10 minute job.

cummins2014

Utah

Senior Member

Joined: 02/20/2008

View Profile



Good Sam RV Club Member

Offline
Posted: 04/02/19 09:24am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

2012Coleman wrote:

Here's my 2 cents:

Why the mega cab? I have the crew cab and there is more room than my kids and dog need back there. The mega cab gives you the ability to recline the back seat and takes away bed length.

I didn't have the factory installed pucks, so I bought them from the dealer and had a custom welding/hitch shop install them - same guy has done this for me twice. He installed the in bed plug. The good news on that is that you don't have to splice any wires - its plug and play. After drilling the hole for it.

I read all the comments of those who say "I have a short bed and have never had to slide". Or - "If you are aware of your surroundings - blah blah". Well, I bought the B&W companion slider from ETrailer.com. Brought the new fifth wheel home and proceed to back up into the driveway on residential street without sliding. Didn't take long to hear the sound of breaking glass. And you can pay attention all you want, but you just can't see the corner of the trailer through the back pillar - unless you have X-Ray vision. Slid the trailer back and was amazed at how much easier it was backing. Went on the shake down trip with plastic over the back window. Sure, there are situations where I don't have to slide but every camp site I've been to has required it - with the exception of the one pull through site, and backing into my driveway - well, lesson learned.

So if you have a big piece of land and don't ever expect to be in a situation where you are backing at a sharp angle, by all means, get the non sliding hitch with your short bed (even shorter with mega cab) pickup.

The auto sliding hitches I researched required that you back up straight into the hitch - not at an angle. If you get the wheel to wheel side steps, you won't need a step stool or to hop on the tire to release the handle for either the jaws or slider. The B&W is a great hitch - compare to the others. Etrailer will drop ship it for free.

Too be fair, the B&W slider is heavy. I have to remove the tail gate and remove it with an engine puller. They make a gizmo that you lock into the jaws. You can then hook to it and lift the whole hitch at once. But I can do that myself. Unless you have a couple of friends at hand.

Good luck.



First,lets get the bed lengths straightened out. Its apparent you are not aware of the lengths. The short bed Crew cab Ram truck is 6'-4" in the 2500, 3500. The bed length in Ram megacab is the exact same length 6'-4" in the 2500,3500. So if its a Megacab you wanted, but thought the bed was shorter , you messed up .

Megacab is not offered in the long bed 8', although it can be done aftermarket.

So as far as bed length you lose NOTHING with the Megacab over the crewcab, but you do gain some extra wheelbase, as well as storage in the back seat. NO the bed in the Megacab is NOT SHORTER then the crewcab

I too have a slider, and blah blah blah, I have never "HAD" to slide it back in the 11 years that I have towed the same fifth wheel with two different trucks, same hitch. The one thing I do, its the same as you, I slide the hitch back to back into my RV pad at home. It seems to turn, and respond better doing it that way, has nothing to do with hitting the cab, have backed in with the hitch in both positions, and having it back seems to be easier.

You seem to be contradicting yourself , I agree there is somewhat of a blind spot with part of the front of the fifth wheel, sure you can't see all of it, but you sure can see the part thats going to take out your back window. I have no doubt people do these things, but sorry there is situational awareness.

packnrat

soon to be the state of Jefferson U S A

Senior Member

Joined: 04/25/2002

View Profile


Offline
Posted: 04/02/19 10:02am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

pending your truck and trailer matters in just clearances.
same basic "quad cab" ford ver dodge..chevy?
dodge just tapped the tv in very tight corners, ford has inches to spare, all factors the same just make of truck here.
tow rateing, is dependent on how said truck was specked out at the factory. nothing else after matters for this.except how much is bolted on after. and this will only lower total tow weight. (pin and trailer).


2006 F250 4X4 auto 6.0 short bed
2001 sunnybrook 24 ft
1984 cj7 built up a bit
kg6tgu
never too many toys, just not enought room to keep them
one dog who belives she is the master. rip 12 12 2007
12 loving years and loyal to the end.
just out having fun

2012Coleman

Florida

Senior Member

Joined: 08/20/2012

View Profile






Posted: 04/02/19 10:28am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

garyp4951 wrote:

[image]

This gizmo plus an electric HF ceiling hoist make it a 10 minute job.
Thats the gizmo I'm talking about - and got the idea from you garyp4951 - just couldn't find your original post.

My cab is to high to get into the garage - sadly.

cummins2014

Utah

Senior Member

Joined: 02/20/2008

View Profile



Good Sam RV Club Member

Offline
Posted: 04/02/19 10:49am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

2012Coleman wrote:

Here's my 2 cents:

Why the mega cab? I have the crew cab and there is more room than my kids and dog need back there. The mega cab gives you the ability to recline the back seat and takes away bed length.

I didn't have the factory installed pucks, so I bought them from the dealer and had a custom welding/hitch shop install them - same guy has done this for me twice. He installed the in bed plug. The good news on that is that you don't have to splice any wires - its plug and play. After drilling the hole for it.

I read all the comments of those who say "I have a short bed and have never had to slide". Or - "If you are aware of your surroundings - blah blah". Well, I bought the B&W companion slider from ETrailer.com. Brought the new fifth wheel home and proceed to back up into the driveway on residential street without sliding. Didn't take long to hear the sound of breaking glass. And you can pay attention all you want, but you just can't see the corner of the trailer through the back pillar - unless you have X-Ray vision. Slid the trailer back and was amazed at how much easier it was backing. Went on the shake down trip with plastic over the back window. Sure, there are situations where I don't have to slide but every camp site I've been to has required it - with the exception of the one pull through site, and backing into my driveway - well, lesson learned.

So if you have a big piece of land and don't ever expect to be in a situation where you are backing at a sharp angle, by all means, get the non sliding hitch with your short bed (even shorter with mega cab) pickup.

The auto sliding hitches I researched required that you back up straight into the hitch - not at an angle. If you get the wheel to wheel side steps, you won't need a step stool or to hop on the tire to release the handle for either the jaws or slider. The B&W is a great hitch - compare to the others. Etrailer will drop ship it for free.

Too be fair, the B&W slider is heavy. I have to remove the tail gate and remove it with an engine puller. They make a gizmo that you lock into the jaws. You can then hook to it and lift the whole hitch at once. But I can do that myself. Unless you have a couple of friends at hand.

Good luck.



Please edit this post, Megacab bed is not shorter then the crew cab shortbed , this is totally false, and misleading to the OP, but hopefully they know better or checked. You need to get your facts straight.

cummins2014

Utah

Senior Member

Joined: 02/20/2008

View Profile



Good Sam RV Club Member

Offline
Posted: 04/02/19 10:55am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

garyp4951 wrote:

[image]

This gizmo plus an electric HF ceiling hoist make it a 10 minute job.


I installed the same hoist, although I still use it, I cured some of the problem with the Andersen [emoticon]

Cummins12V98

on the road

Senior Member

Joined: 06/03/2012

View Profile


Offline
Posted: 04/02/19 06:02pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Two pcs, take it out and replace it by myself no hoist.

[image]


2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

Al H

56472

New Member

Joined: 04/01/2018

View Profile


Offline
Posted: 04/06/19 08:51am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I purchased a mega cab just because it was a used truck and in very nice condition and the price was right. Its a Laramie longhorn and we really like it. It has a 6'-4" box and a little longer wheelbase but the mega cab does not eat up box space, just a little longer frame than the crew cab but slightly shorter than the long box trucks. Maybe earlier model mega cabs had shorter boxes?
Anyway I decided to not use the Anderson ultimate and purchased the Mopar puck kit and installed it as well as the in box wiring kit. Installation was little involved as the box had to be raised to get the pucks in and then cutting four holes but really not that bad. I could do it in half the time if I had to do it again. Cost was $260 for the kit and $80 for the wiring so now I still need a hitch and will be buying one soon. I'm still not sure about a slider yet as the Heartland trailers have the "tight turn technology" and I am only going south and back once a year and then to a summer park so wont be driving it a whole bunch.
Great advice on this forum, thanks everyone!

MFL

Midwest

Senior Member

Joined: 11/28/2012

View Profile



Good Sam RV Club Member

Online
Posted: 04/06/19 09:35am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Two pcs, take it out and replace it by myself no hoist.


Yup, earlier years of hard work pays off! Keeps you stronger longer, healthy and wise![emoticon]

Jerry





Reply to Topic  |  Subscribe  |  Print Topic  |  Post New Topic  | 
Page of 4  
Prev  |  Next

Open Roads Forum  >  Fifth-Wheels

 > Setting Up Tow Vehicle w/hitch, Etc
Search:   Advanced Search

Search only in Fifth-Wheels


New posts No new posts
Closed, new posts Closed, no new posts
Moved, new posts Moved, no new posts

Adjust text size:




© 2020 CWI, Inc. © 2020 Good Sam Enterprises, LLC. All Rights Reserved.