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Posted: 02/10/19 02:47pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

otrfun wrote:

....snip......

Please tell me how that qualifies as posting an answer without knowing the question.


I guess it does not matter about things like temperature, altitude, other loads, or how close others might be? Just the brand. Hondas are great, had three myself.

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That easy start sounds pretty expensive. You can pick up a hard start kit for about 15 t0 20 dollars that does exactly the same thing, maybe even better under low voltage. Just google SPP5 SPP6 SPP8 The higher the number just means more capacity of the starting capacitor

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I would get the Yamaha 2800 watt inverter gen or the Champion 3500 with elect start.


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Based on my own actual experience with a Honda 2200i, Coleman 11k Mach 1 P.S. at 4,800’ and Hyper-Engineering Sure Start, with onboard converter charger switched to OFF, and after about 30 min of A/C run time, amp requirements go up, I wouldn’t recommend it.

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Posted: 02/10/19 04:54pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

TomG2 wrote:

otrfun wrote:

....snip......

Please tell me how that qualifies as posting an answer without knowing the question.
I guess it does not matter about things like temperature, altitude, other loads, or how close others might be? Just the brand. Hondas are great, had three myself.
Let my try to make this more clear for you. I believe you snip before you read---lol!

1. The OP asked several questions. I answered only one of his two or three questions. Specifically, the one asking for a Honda/Yamaha comparison. I answered by comparing three different sets of manufacturer's specs. Again, nothing more, nothing less.

2. Your concern with "temperature, altitude, and other loads" is called "application" (i.e., HOW a generator will be used). I did NOT address or discuss application. Ultimately, it's up to the OP to decide which generator is best for his specific application.

Certainly hope this brings some clarity in your on-going quest to help the OP.

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Posted: 02/10/19 05:13pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

dom101 wrote:

That easy start sounds pretty expensive. You can pick up a hard start kit for about 15 t0 20 dollars that does exactly the same thing, maybe even better under low voltage. Just google SPP5 SPP6 SPP8 The higher the number just means more capacity of the starting capacitor
There is a massive difference in capability between a Micro-Air Easy Start and a simple hard-start kit. A hard-start kit may reduce inrush current (LRA) a few amps under the best of conditions. The MAES can reduce inrush current (LRA) 20 amps or more. Current reduction of this magnitude takes a tremendous strain off the generator upon start-up. In this comparison you definitely get what you pay for.

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Posted: 02/10/19 05:44pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

otrfun wrote:


...snip......

2. Your concern with "temperature, altitude, and other loads" is called "application" (i.e., HOW a generator will be used). I did NOT address or discuss application. Ultimately, it's up to the OP to decide which generator is best for his specific application.

Certainly hope this brings some clarity in your on-going quest to help the OP.


OK, OK. Application is not a factor. Neither is budget. Just red versus blue. I like red too. I have wasted a lot of money over the years without asking about "applications". But it is not "our" money, is it? I prefer asking over opining, without the facts.

* This post was edited 02/10/19 05:56pm by TomG2 *

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otrfun wrote:

dom101 wrote:

That easy start sounds pretty expensive. You can pick up a hard start kit for about 15 t0 20 dollars that does exactly the same thing, maybe even better under low voltage. Just google SPP5 SPP6 SPP8 The higher the number just means more capacity of the starting capacitor
There is a massive difference in capability between a Micro-Air Easy Start and a simple hard-start kit. A hard-start kit may reduce inrush current (LRA) a few amps under the best of conditions. The MAES can reduce inrush current (LRA) 20 amps or more. Current reduction of this magnitude takes a tremendous strain off the generator upon start-up. In this comparison you definitely get what you pay for.



I know what a hard/soft start capacitor will do and have been reading up on the Micro air. Not sure if it is something I want to try. I know I can run 8k with a Honda 2000, but if I could take all strain off the Honda might be worth the money?

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TomG2 wrote:

otrfun wrote:


...snip......

2. Your concern with "temperature, altitude, and other loads" is called "application" (i.e., HOW a generator will be used). I did NOT address or discuss application. Ultimately, it's up to the OP to decide which generator is best for his specific application.

Certainly hope this brings some clarity in your on-going quest to help the OP.
OK, OK. Application is not a factor. Neither is budget. Just red versus blue. I like red too. I have wasted a lot of money over the years without asking about "applications". But it is not "our" money, is it? I prefer asking over opining, without the facts.
You're reaching now. No one said application or budget are not important. As for red vs. blue, the manufacturers specs are there for everyone to see and interpret as they see fit. I'm just the messenger.

Find it quite interesting that you prefer "asking over opining, without the facts". Maybe that explains why my answer to the OP's question bothered you so much.

Have a good one.

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bikendan wrote:

When you say cheap Sam's Club units, don't know if you're talking about open frame contractor-style generators or inverter generators.

For example, the sportsman 2200

https://www.samsclub.com/sams/2000w-generator-sine-wave-inverter/prod21372782.ip?xid=plp_product_1_4

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