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LIKE2BUILD wrote:

Nosedive wrote:

I've had both. I actually had a couple failures of the Reece cam arms. I do not believe that this was due to the anything wrong with the hitch itself, but rather the relationship of the heights of my truck vs. the camper tongue which required a severe hitch head angle that attributed to the failures.

This is a good point and should be considered when choosing your hitch head style. Typically I've found if the ball coupler is mounted on the top of the trailer A-frame a round bar style hitch works best. This allows the bars to set below the trailer frame and decrease the chance that the head will impact the frame and dislodge the bars.

If the coupler is on the bottom of the frame then a trunion style head works nice and gives you the most ground clearance.

I towed for 10 years with a round bar style Reese Dual Cam it worked flawlessly the entire time. I have ZERO experience on the Equal-I-zer 4-point so I can't say good or bad. If I went back to a TT, I'd use a Dual Cam in a heartbeat simply because it performed perfectly without any failures.

This is a valid point about the relative heights of the coupler socket. I didn't realize what the issue was until I had bent my trunion socket on my hitch head, and spit a bar across the pavement late one night in a campground somewhere in Nebraska I think. If you use a trunion bar hitch with an upper "A" frame socket on your trailer, a higher hitch ball is usually required. That, or know your absolute turning angle and don't exceed it. I used a 1" rise, heat treated ball rated at 24000 lbs and my issue was resolved. Hitch has worked beautifully for 10 years and is very quiet if I keep the necessary lube in the necessary places.


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downtheroad wrote:

gpeade wrote:


Equalizer as in brand name, not hitch style.

OK, like I said, maybe I'm confused.
Can you provide a link to an actual Equalizer brand hitch? (not an Equal-i-zer hitch.)

The term equalizer is often used as a generic name for a basic weight distribution hitch.


You are not crazy. There are many that use the term equalizer for a weight distributing hitch in the same way people use the term Kleenex for facial tissue.

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Love my DC, been using it on 2 trailers for 11 years. I love it and once set-up, I don't need to mess with it over the season unless there is a significant change that makes me want to check my alignment of the cams. However, the initial set-up and mounting issues make me hesitant to recommend it. Plus it seems mosts Reese stuff is made in China now, not that it is bad, but I prefer to by stuff may by my fellow Americans.

Perhaps if I had all new stuff that was designed to work together and I used the rivnuts from Reese, it would all be fine. My original one was from 2008 and not wide enough to accomodate the bigger bars of my newer larger trailer. I did some grinding and beefed up the mount and it has been fine since.


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Bobbo wrote:

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The DC fans fixate on what the cams do.... Letting the TT freely return to center.
What they do not understand is that, yes the cams do resist sway moving away from center, but not towards center,,,,even though motion returning to center is STILL a sway event! Sway is a back and forth motion much like a dogs tail. The EQUALIZER dampens sway in BOTH directions. Perhaps with less resistance that the DC when it is moving away from center, but with much more resistance when moving to center. So the net result is about the same.

Personally, I consider this a GOOD thing. We WANT the trailer to return to center. My opinion of the perfect system is one that resists moving off center, allows free return to center, then resists moving off center in the other direction, damping down the sway but encouraging a centered trailer. That is exactly what the Dual Cam does.
You are not understanding what I am saying.

I am sure that you have seen a trailer on the road swaying. It sways in both directions. When it changes directions, it is headed back to center... It doesn't need any help from cams. It will head that way without ANY sway control.
So if you believe that the cams impart a signifignant force towards center (quite a few don't believe this) then it will speed up the motion towards center, When it reaches center it will then encounter resistance in the other direction... Think about it. A 5k -10K weight swinging back and forth, and actually encouraged to sway faster in one direction! If this is actually what happened then it would be felt in the TV as sway.

I don't subscribe to that thinking. Many debates have happened here over the years with our resident engineer Ron Gratz weighing in. His opinion was that the DC is primarily a friction based system. That the cams don't add all that much.

The EQUALIZER without any cams needs no consideration for what cams may or may not do.. It imparts the same sway braking resistance in BOTH directions. slowing down the sway event quickly.

Since both the DC and the EQUALIZER have had great reviews here over many years, it is obvious that they both perform well. They just do it differently



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Huntindog wrote:

Bobbo wrote:

Huntindog wrote:

The DC fans fixate on what the cams do.... Letting the TT freely return to center.
What they do not understand is that, yes the cams do resist sway moving away from center, but not towards center,,,,even though motion returning to center is STILL a sway event! Sway is a back and forth motion much like a dogs tail. The EQUALIZER dampens sway in BOTH directions. Perhaps with less resistance that the DC when it is moving away from center, but with much more resistance when moving to center. So the net result is about the same.

Personally, I consider this a GOOD thing. We WANT the trailer to return to center. My opinion of the perfect system is one that resists moving off center, allows free return to center, then resists moving off center in the other direction, damping down the sway but encouraging a centered trailer. That is exactly what the Dual Cam does.
You are not understanding what I am saying.

I am sure that you have seen a trailer on the road swaying. It sways in both directions. When it changes directions, it is headed back to center... It doesn't need any help from cams. It will head that way without ANY sway control.
So if you believe that the cams impart a signifignant force towards center (quite a few don't believe this) then it will speed up the motion towards center, When it reaches center it will then encounter resistance in the other direction... Think about it. A 5k -10K weight swinging back and forth, and actually encouraged to sway faster in one direction! If this is actually what happened then it would be felt in the TV as sway.

I don't subscribe to that thinking. Many debates have happened here over the years with our resident engineer Ron Gratz weighing in. His opinion was that the DC is primarily a friction based system. That the cams don't add all that much.

The EQUALIZER without any cams needs no consideration for what cams may or may not do.. It imparts the same sway braking resistance in BOTH directions. slowing down the sway event quickly.

Since both the DC and the EQUALIZER have had great reviews here over many years, it is obvious that they both perform well. They just do it differently


The trailer coming back around towards center is where the Dual Cam is superior. The trailer will want to stay behind the vehicle due to the cams. the last thing you want is the trailer to go past center during a sway event, which the EQ will let it do. You can feel the trailer "lock" (probably not the exact term but you get the idea) in when it hits the center of the cam. The EQ lets the trailer continue on its way past center. which is where sway is!


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