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Posted: 02/18/19 07:25pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Hauling the combo in my sig. I thought about the 450 but considered it overkill when only the turning radius could be a plus. Do recommend the 4:10 over the 3:55 unless your always on he flats. I haven't weighed but based on previous truck and 5er weight and known dry weight on the 5er and shipping weight I'm 27,500 on the road. 13,500 towing, grades up to 10 percent, 9.5 gpm, try to cruise at 62mph. Sit back and enjoy the ride.


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How about a Kenworth?
There seems to be no end to the battle to pull the most weight.
RVs are getting lighter not heavier.

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gratwitnorth wrote:

Shopping for new tow vehicle. Bought a bigger 5th wheel ( 2013 Redwood 38BR ). The current Ram 2500 diesel srw will get it there but is pretty maxed out.

The ratings of the dually 350/3500's certainly meet the requirements on paper. Like what I'm reading about the turning radius, breaking and heavier curb weight of Ford's F450 without getting in to a cab and chassis truck.

Anyone have first hand experience/comparison with Ford's F450 compared to a F350 or Ram 3500?

Thanks much


Well something like this might look pretty nice hooked up to that 5er, 5,411# payload, 2016 Ram 3500 Laramie DRW Aisin, 3.73's.

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"5,411# payload"

That is correct "IF" you go by the self imposed 14k GVWR. But here "IS" MUCH more payload available!

If I were to follow that rating I could NOT tow my 23k DRV. I am adding at least 6,600# to mine with two adults, pin weight, hitch and toolbox. I am at or under my axle ratings and under combined load rating.

Yes I am licensed to carry that amount.

If a person wants to stick to the 14k GVWR take around 1,000# off for bodies, hitch, tool box, and fuel form the 5,400# payload that is 4,400# available for pin weight. Figure 25% pin if you full time that lets you tow a 18k 5er.


My 18-19k 36' Mobile Suites did have a 4,500# pin.


How many people are at or under their 14k???

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Why guess? Cover all your bases with an F450 and not look back.


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shepstone wrote:

Why guess? Cover all your bases with an F450 and not look back.


I kinda have to ask, why didn’t you get a 450?

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Cummins12V98 wrote:

shepstone wrote:

Why guess? Cover all your bases with an F450 and not look back.


I kinda have to ask, why didn’t you get a 450?

Because they don’t come in a Super Cab unless you get a C&C. Which I didn’t want.

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shepstone wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

shepstone wrote:

Why guess? Cover all your bases with an F450 and not look back.


I kinda have to ask, why didn’t you get a 450?

Because they don’t come in a Super Cab unless you get a C&C. Which I didn’t want.


Good answer!

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gratwitnorth wrote:

Shopping for new tow vehicle. Bought a bigger 5th wheel ( 2013 Redwood 38BR ). The current Ram 2500 diesel srw will get it there but is pretty maxed out.

The ratings of the dually 350/3500's certainly meet the requirements on paper. Like what I'm reading about the turning radius, breaking and heavier curb weight of Ford's F450 without getting in to a cab and chassis truck.

Anyone have first hand experience/comparison with Ford's F450 compared to a F350 or Ram 3500?

Thanks much


I owned a 2005 F-350 with the 6.0 Liter Diesel. It was a very nice truck and did the job well. When I decided to upgrade to a 43' Toy Hauler, I knew I needed to upgrade the truck as well. So it 2011 I bought an F-450 which was well suited to towing our new 18K pound 5th wheel toy hauler. Drove the wheels off the 2011 and renewed the truck last year. Now driving a 2017 F-450 that pulls our 5er better than the 2011 did.

The new 450s can tow almost anything that is built today. Good luck!


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