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LaundroKing

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I have a 2005 Ford short bed with the pin over the axle. The 5er is a 2008 Sundance with the long pin box that is designed for short beds and also has the corners of the nose cap radius in. I don't even get close to my back window, but yes you do have to pay attention. I can't get around to 90 degrees with the trailer, but i can get about 80 degrees.

I have never seen an automatic slider. So some are suggesting that when you start backing in, it "automatically" slides back? Or is it just actuated from inside the cab. Because if you have to get out of the truck, that is not very automatic.


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Look here
LaundroKing wrote:

I have a 2005 Ford short bed with the pin over the axle. The 5er is a 2008 Sundance with the long pin box that is designed for short beds and also has the corners of the nose cap radius in. I don't even get close to my back window, but yes you do have to pay attention. I can't get around to 90 degrees with the trailer, but i can get about 80 degrees.

I have never seen an automatic slider. So some are suggesting that when you start backing in, it "automatically" slides back? Or is it just actuated from inside the cab. Because if you have to get out of the truck, that is not very automatic.



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From our experience all depends on the person and trailer.
My wife and I are soon to be on our third short bed truck for a fifth wheel but our 5th short bed truck over all.
We have had a 2012 Ram Mega cab towing a 40’ bunk house and a 2016 Crew Cab Cummins towing a 42’ fiver and are ordering a new 2019 Mega Cab dually Cummins. Out of the 2 other trucks we have always had a sliding hitch, but never used it.
Our trailers are the new front cap design that allows tighter turning. So with that and my wife who is an amazing spotter never had an issue. We have managed to get it into some good spots. We had an issue once so far that took several tries and that was at Fort Wilderness in Florida.
With the 2019 we aren’t even doing a sliding hitch.
But again a good spotter and communication is key.


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cummins2014 wrote:

twodownzero wrote:

get an auto slider. Don't ask how I know.



Pretty sure I don't need to ask, its situational awareness , and there was no awareness.


Oh, there was awareness or I wouldn't have a cab corner or a (maybe) back window anymore. Never doing that again. Probably a half inch of cab to axle and I wouldn't need it, but that's a half inch too little. Now I can turn way beyond 90 degrees and not worry. I have to turn nearly 90 to get into my driveway from the street, so it's nice to have.

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I really do not understand the ole 90 degree jack for backing.

I do not think there is a pick up made that could turn sharp enough to keep up with a 90 degree jack when backing.

it could be done with the old cab over 18 wheeler i drove, but I say it is impossible and no utility do try that with a fifth wheel camper. Needles to even consider the lateral forces on the suspension.

So it looks like the slider folks rule on this post. [emoticon]

It surprises me that the stealer gave a practical response as opposed to just jumping into your pocket or at least trying to.

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I agree Dave...while 90 degrees makes a reference point, it is impossible to back a FW trailer at that angle. As you approach 90 degrees, you are just pushing the trailer sideways, and severely twisting your suspension. You need to pull forward a little, straighten a little, before proceeding to back.

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Thanks Bionic Man for the link.

I visited the PullRite web site and looked at the owners manual to see what kind of mechanical things are going on to get this to work. Well... there are a lot. As promising as this looks, the maintenance schedule is grueling. Every day of use you must lube the plastic wear plates after cleaning them. It is "normal" for the plastic wear plates to wear the zinc from the slide bars. Then they will rust and scoring will occur, they say this is "normal". But before next use you should sand the rust off, clean and lube them once again.

They recommend disassembling the hitch once a month to lube the pivot bolt with axle grease.

You know they say, if it sounds to good to be true, it probably is. I think this is one of those. I suppose you could not do any of this and just take it in once a year and have all the parts replaced.

IMHO this is just to much work, just so I don't have to pay attention when backing up.

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MFL wrote:

I agree Dave...while 90 degrees makes a reference point, it is impossible to back a FW trailer at that angle. As you approach 90 degrees, you are just pushing the trailer sideways, and severely twisting your suspension. You need to pull forward a little, straighten a little, before proceeding to back.

Jerry


Finally someone debunked the 90 degree bull. A little up a little back a little up a little back. In 40 years and never had to do 90 Degrees. But I did have a Pullrite slider for a time and it came in handy more than once especially at night, yep a little messy but worked well.


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bshgto1 wrote:

MFL wrote:

I agree Dave...while 90 degrees makes a reference point, it is impossible to back a FW trailer at that angle. As you approach 90 degrees, you are just pushing the trailer sideways, and severely twisting your suspension. You need to pull forward a little, straighten a little, before proceeding to back.

Jerry


Finally someone debunked the 90 degree bull. A little up a little back a little up a little back. In 40 years and never had to do 90 Degrees. But I did have a Pullrite slider for a time and it came in handy more than once especially at night, yep a little messy but worked well.


Well from the lack of response, I doubt many are backing in at 90 degrees, or they don't realize what 90 degrees is .

Just watching 45 degrees , and what the tires are doing, can't imagine what 90 degrees is doing to them as well as the suspension , especially on cement or asphalt .

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LaundroKing wrote:

Thanks Bionic Man for the link.

I visited the PullRite web site and looked at the owners manual to see what kind of mechanical things are going on to get this to work. Well... there are a lot. As promising as this looks, the maintenance schedule is grueling. Every day of use you must lube the plastic wear plates after cleaning them. It is "normal" for the plastic wear plates to wear the zinc from the slide bars. Then they will rust and scoring will occur, they say this is "normal". But before next use you should sand the rust off, clean and lube them once again.

They recommend disassembling the hitch once a month to lube the pivot bolt with axle grease.

You know they say, if it sounds to good to be true, it probably is. I think this is one of those. I suppose you could not do any of this and just take it in once a year and have all the parts replaced.

IMHO this is just to much work, just so I don't have to pay attention when backing up.



Glad I didn’t order one of these.

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