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1Longbow

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Posted: 03/07/19 04:40pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Looking for REAL world towing experience with the above truck. I have a 2016 Ram with a Cummings ,and I live in the west ,where we have lots of mountain grades. Just how well does this motor tow ,with ,lets say a 10,000# trailer behind it. Just wondering out loud. Thanks for all replies

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Posted: 03/07/19 04:42pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

If you already have a 2016 CTD why would you downgrade? It would do okay especially with the 8 speed in the new model but it won’t come close to what you already have.


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Not looking to down grade. Just listening to the hype on this truck and wondering if its ,just hype

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If your just looking for hype I'm sure goducks10 will chime in

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Well, it's got a few more HP and about 1/2 the torque. Idk, I'm sure it tows about as good....


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I have a 1 ton Ram with the 6.4 and I tow a 10,000LB 5th wheel with it. It tows just fine and I get 8.5-10mpg depending on terrain, headwind/tailwind etc. I replaced a Chevy 3/4 ton with the 6.0 and I got 7.5-8mpg towing a 9,000LB travel trailer I had at the time. So the mileage is a little better. The HP and Torque are a little better but nothing to write home about or add to the hype. It's a good engine. It won't perform as well as a diesel engine but I can do a whole lot more camping with the money I saved going gas over diesel.

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I towed a 12k 5er with mine. It had 3 slides and was 37' long. I was very impressed with how it performed, and I had 2 Cummins (no "G") diesels before I went to the Hemi. In fact, I towed the same 5er with a chipped 5.9L Cummins and with the 6.4L Hemi. On the flats, the Hemi was at about 2200 RPM in 5th at 21k GCW. Into a wind, it would use 4th at about 2800 RPM. In the hills, it would use a lower gear and rev at 5000 RPM at times, just like it was designed to do. I got 7-9 mpg pulling my 5er where the 5.9L Cummins got 9-11 mpg with the same 5er and rarely downshifted - it took a small hill or decent grade to cause a downshift.

The Hemi would outperform a Cummins of the same year (370hp/800tq) with 3.42s on 0-60 when towing 14k. My friend has a 40' 5er that weighs 14k and we tested it.

The Hemi was able to accelerate (albeit at high engine RPM) whenever I wanted to when pulling my 12k 5er. It did use high RPM and use more fuel to get it done. Engine and trans temps etc were never elevated, even when working hard with the EVIC set to display them in numerical digits, not just a needle pointing at "Normal".

I'd buy another in a heartbeat.

If you tow a lot, a diesel is a better choice, and will make for a better towing experience, but I was perfectly happy with the 6.4L Hemi I had. It will be even better now that it's paired with the 8 speed auto. The 1-2 gap in the 66RFE was always a slight bog down spot with my truck. Mine had 4.10s, and I read this flat spot in the acceleration is more pronounced when the truck has 3.73s.


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02 Dodge 2500 4x4 5.9L CTD 3.55
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14 Ram 2500 4x4 Crew 6.4L Hemi 4.10
06 Chevy 1500 4x4 E-Cab 3.73 5.3L
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Posted: 03/08/19 05:19am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

RobWNY wrote:

I have a 1 ton Ram with the 6.4 and I tow a 10,000LB 5th wheel with it. It tows just fine and I get 8.5-10mpg depending on terrain, headwind/tailwind etc. I replaced a Chevy 3/4 ton with the 6.0 and I got 7.5-8mpg towing a 9,000LB travel trailer I had at the time. So the mileage is a little better. The HP and Torque are a little better but nothing to write home about or add to the hype. It's a good engine. It won't perform as well as a diesel engine but I can do a whole lot more camping with the money I saved going gas over diesel.
I towed my 12K fifth wheel with a 2017 Ram 2500 6.4 Hemi. Towed mainly in the flats. It did OK - but at high revs where gas engines make their power. Used it as my daily driver for a 25 mile commute to work - was putting gas in it all the time. I pulled my camper up a very high bridge on 295 and boy did it scream.

Bought the 2018 3500 Ram CTD - fell in love with the towing, and I'm filling up a lot less - way better mileage for commuting. Towing with the 6.4, I could watch the needle move. I made it from my house in North Florida to Hilton Head in less than 3/4 tank of diesel.

I have a fuel rewards card at Shell which gives me 5 cents off a gallon. The difference of price between ga and diesel is a wash for me. No way would I ever tow again with a gas engine.

So not saying one is better than the other but for me, I'd rather sit back and listen to the CTD grunting along steadily up those hills, rather then the 6.4 screaming and clawing.


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1Longbow wrote:

Not looking to down grade. Just listening to the hype on this truck and wondering if its ,just hype


I think you are just stirring the diesel/gas debate. [emoticon]

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Posted: 03/08/19 08:33am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Missed that - sorry I wasted my time replying...

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